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Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 11/19/12: If a People Cannot Secede, They Are Not Free

by minnesotachris

by Ron Paul

Is all the recent talk of secession mere sour grapes over the election or perhaps something deeper? Currently there are active petitions in support of secession for all 50 states, with Texas taking the lead in number of signatures. Texas has well over the number of signatures needed to generate a response from the administration, and while I wouldn’t hold my breath on Texas actually seceding, I believe these petitions raise a lot of worthwhile questions about the nature of our union.

Is it treasonous to want to secede from the United States? Many think the question of secession was settled by our Civil War. On the contrary, the principles of self-government and voluntary association are at the core of our founding. Clearly, Thomas Jefferson believed secession was proper, albeit as a last resort. Writing to William Giles in 1825 he concluded that states “should separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left are the dissolution of our union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers.”

Keep in mind that the first and third paragraph of the Declaration of Independence expressly contemplate the dissolution of a political union when the underlying government becomes tyrannical. Do we have a government without limitation of powers yet? The federal government kept the union together through violence and force in the Civil War, but did might really make right?

Secession is a deeply American principle. This country was born through secession. Some thought it was treasonous to secede from England, but those “traitors” became our country’s greatest patriots. There is nothing treasonous or unpatriotic about wanting a federal government that is more responsive to the people it represents. That is what our revolutionary war was all about and today, our own federal government is vastly overstepping its constitutional bounds with no signs of reform. In fact, the recent election only further entrenched the status quo.

If the possibility of secession is completely off the table there is nothing to stop the federal government from continuing to encroach on our liberties, and no recourse for those who are sick and tired of it. Consider the ballot measures that passed in Colorado and Washington state regarding marijuana laws. The people in those states have clearly indicated that they are ready to try something different where drug policy is concerned, yet they will still face a tremendous threat from the federal government. In California the feds have been arresting peaceful medical marijuana users and raiding dispensaries that state and local governments have sanctioned. This shouldn’t happen in a free country!

It remains to be seen what will happen in states that are refusing to comply with deeply unpopular mandates of Obamacare by not setting up healthcare exchanges. It appears the federal government will not respect those decisions either.

In free country governments derive their powers from the consent of the governed. When the people have very clearly withdrawn their consent for a law, the discussion should be over. If the feds refuse to accept that and continue to run roughshod over the people, at what point do we acknowledge that that is not freedom anymore? At what point should a people dissolve the political bands which have connected them with an increasingly tyrannical and oppressive federal government? And if people or states are not free to leave the United States as a last resort, can they really think of themselves as free? If a people cannot secede from an oppressive government they cannot truly be considered free.

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birth certificate is not his battle

if you haven't noticed he's got other larger more encompassing issues to deal with.

Why do you expect him to fight every battle?

I firmly believe Obama is not eligible to be president as he is not Natural Born but this is not Paul's battle nor should it be.

How much do you expect one man to do?

Sorry, you missed my point

I wasn't writing about Obama. I couldn't give a tosser whether he has one or not.

I was writing about THE most important issue WE must resolve in order to gain our freedom around the word. The birth certificate con.

Paul fought the symptoms of the abuse of power. Illegal power that is. But that wont quite do it. We had a taste of that during primary elections, right?

The birth certificate if the key to our freedom globally. Everyone would understand how to the contract is void as a legal person/the state cannot coerce another legal person/the citizen into a legally binding contract. That's not legal. Go ahead and ask the lawyers. But don't mention the state and birth certificate when you ask for this simple information.

I never accepted tyranny. I was told by my elected officials that I am free and live in a democracy. Yeah right! ;)

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This lame duck is as solid as a rock.

I don't hear anything like an approaching end, only a continuation of the same commitment to individual Liberty as before. Ron Paul 2012

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Go Doc!


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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

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This is a VERY strong statement from good Dr. Ron Paul.

This is a VERY strong statement from good Dr. Ron Paul.

Now we can bring it, for ourselves, individually, to the full extent of its implications...

It ought to be given SERIOUS thoughts before further action.

Bear and,


"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

My Current President Is :

** RON PAUL **


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"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius


A standing ovation is in order.

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Let's get it on....

"I just want to live in a FREE country" - RP in an interview on MSM.

"I just want to live in a free country" - Dr. Ron Paul

eh, I knew he'd say that. I'm

eh, I knew he'd say that. I'm glad he did.

"You must be frank with the world; frankness is the child of honesty and courage...Never do anything wrong to make a friend or keep one...Above all do not appear to others what you are not" - Robert E. Lee, CSA