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Rand Paul will "hijack the pro-Israel GOP"

Say what?

How is it a person can be accused of being anti-Israel simply because they want to cut aid to foreign nations to help fix the desperate economic situation this country is in? What possible merit could these accusations have?

Rand Paul: 'Portraying me as being against Israel...is as nonfactual as it is offensive'

Matt Welch | Reason | Nov. 19, 2012 11:18 am

There's an interesting back-and-forth over at Commentary magazine between Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) and Jonathan S. Tobin over whether the libertarian-minded Tea Party senator will (in the formulation of Tobin's original headline) "hijack the pro-Israel GOP." I think Paul gets the better of what is an important argument; you be the judge.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/11/19/rand-paul-portraying-me-as...



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Smells like...

desperation to me. These PIGS in the NWO are getting more and more fearful of the Awakening people around the globe. This "anti-isreal" argument appears to be a last-gasp attempt to sway the "right wing crazies" away from truth.

We'll know we've won when they bring up the Aqua Buddha LOL

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

At least they admit they are Zionists

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/11/09/will-rand-paul-...

Actually I hope he hijacks and purges the New World Order Zionism from the GOP --- which is not to be confused with people or Judaism, but a philosophy so poisonous as to be right up there with the Muslim Brotherhood, radical Islam and the Taliban and who are joined up with AQ to aid the socialist overtake of Assad regime in Syria.

The Zionists are who controls our FBI, CIA, and the rest of our government and who are into spreading the one world government by force as we speak..

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Tsk tsk @ Tobin's remarks

Mr. Tobin's asinine and largely slanderous remarks are a telling example of why more and more people are becoming either overtly anti-Zionist, or at least skeptical of it. I understand that many Jewish people think they are the only important people on earth and that everyone else should kowtow to them, but they are sadly mistaken in that.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

This kind of divisiveness just feeds the Tobins of the World

The last thing the Liberty movement needs to be doing is singling out ethnic groups for derision.

Stating that many Jews "think everyone should kow-tow to them", which you provide no evidence for, empowers Tobin to brand this movement as a bunch of paranoid Jew-haters (even if was largely founded by Jews).

You could have just used the term "Zionists" and been a lot less offensive.

I prefer honesty to being inoffensive.

If you want evidence that a large number of Jews want to be kowtowed to, I suggest you take a minute to reread Mr. Tobin's remarks, those are not the opinions of a tiny fringe minority of Zionists, but is a pretty accurate read of how the majority of Jewish conservatives see themselves. And if you want to get extremely technical, I invite you to look up the following verses in the Babylonian Talmud:

Sanhedrin 57a and 58b
Baba Kamma 37b
Yebamoth 98a
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b and 36b
Baba Mezia 24a

And my personal favorite is Soferim 15, Rule 10 from Minor Tractates.

Feel free to look up the English translations of all these segments of the Talmud (I won't repeat them here is it will derail the entire topic and I'll have Liberty_First on my case about being an anti-semite), come back and tell me again that I am the one who needs to stop offending people. This stuff is required teaching in most Hebrew schools save a handful of non-Talmudic sects. called Karaites Jews (I believe most of them are Reformed).

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

Conflated with Conservatism

What they have done is conflate support of Israel for conservatism when it is really supporting the Trotskyite neocon movement which is every bit as globalist as the progressives.

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

Yep.

That's pretty much what they've done. If we were simply talking about showing solidarity with Israel for sharing certain Western values in common with us, I wouldn't see any problem. It's the brutality and thievery of these Neo-con types that really bothers me.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

I like RP.

I like RP.

"You must be frank with the world; frankness is the child of honesty and courage...Never do anything wrong to make a friend or keep one...Above all do not appear to others what you are not" - Robert E. Lee, CSA

Constitutional Libertarian warrior Ron is great!

Sellout, amnestying, "playin' the game" Rand is just another republican. Nothing more.

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The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

Nice!

I like this line, "it is always sad to see conservatives making liberal arguments."

I wonder if Rand will respond again, especially since the author is trying to imply something by Rand not being present when they gave Netanyahu the standing ovation. If I'm not mistaken, Rand was doing more important things like trying to filibuster the patriot act!

Upvote.

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