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Senate Bill Rewrite Lets Feds Read Your e-mail Without Warrants

Where is the outrage!


CNET reports Sen. Leahy (D) will not support the exception that includes warrantless access to email data. Don't let your guard down though, I will continue to watch this bill up to the vote. CNET - Leahy scuttles his warrantless e-mail surveillance bill

Proposed law scheduled for a vote next week originally increased Americans' e-mail privacy. Then law enforcement complained. Now it increases government access to e-mail and other digital files.

CNET- A Senate proposal touted as protecting Americans' e-mail privacy has been quietly rewritten, giving government agencies more surveillance power than they possess under current law.

CNET has learned that Patrick Leahy, the influential Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, has dramatically reshaped his legislation in response to law enforcement concerns. A vote on his bill, which now authorizes warrantless access to Americans' e-mail, is scheduled for next week.
Revised bill highlights

Leahy's rewritten bill would allow more than 22 agencies -- including the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Federal Communications Commission -- to access Americans' e-mail, Google Docs files, Facebook wall posts, and Twitter direct messages without a search warrant. It also would give the FBI and Homeland Security more authority, in some circumstances, to gain full access to Internet accounts without notifying either the owner or a judge.


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These people are stupid.

These people are stupid. Dumb! With an email address you can crack the password in minutes or seconds unless you have one of those programs that hashes your password so that it takes up to six months to decode.

Anybody can access your email and use it for illicit purposes. It is so easy.

"With enough of us, around the world, we’ll not just send a strong message opposing the privatization of knowledge — we’ll make it a thing of the past." ~ Aaron Swartz

Not that you're wrong, but I

Not that you're wrong, but I believe you're missing the point.

You are 100% correct. I was

You are 100% correct. I was just pointing out the fact that the people in Washington make the laws but don't really understand technology.

"With enough of us, around the world, we’ll not just send a strong message opposing the privatization of knowledge — we’ll make it a thing of the past." ~ Aaron Swartz

well dont expect the Senate to change their ways

I propose we reach out to Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook, and Twitter for not standing up to this bill. The Internet is The medium of Communication. Fight now or forever hold your breath!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

altruism ... the mask of totalitarianism

read Atlas Shrugged. Again.

Heading over the CLIFF of FASCISM---


There is no outrage

because nobody knows about it

Yo! Follow up on this article...


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Hell yea!

Good thing all you guys and girls stood your ground and absolutely refused to vote for the Romneyator... Now we have 4 more years of a guy that has ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT for the Constitution. At least with Romney, there was a tad little bit of sanity surrounding him.

If we still have the ability to vote in 2016... Please Rand Run!!!

Wow! You actually think

Wow! You actually think Romney, the Goldman-Sachs Federal Reserve candidate who had a Keynesian economic adviser (same as Obama's and the same darn donors as Obama's) really had it all figured out? Wow! what planet are you from?

I feel like

You weren't being sincere in your post. But, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I don't think anyone here voted for Mitt Romney because we refuse to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, sir. Hence, your "-3" post rating. But hey, we respect your opinion.

Lima-1, out.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

That 'tad little bit of

That 'tad little bit of sanity' was a ruse. It did not exist and he has no more regard for the constitution than any president that's served in the last 100 years. Don't be fooled by rhetoric and don't blame those that actually care.. i.e. those that abstained or voted 3rd party.


Leahy, Sanders, Kucinich.... ALL SELL OUT POS.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Does Kucinich support?

Does Kucinich support?


not sure if dennis AF-1 Kucinich is supportive but after his ride with oblah, he sold out to healthcare and could have used his position to work with republicans to stop it but neither dk or house republicans would do anything but sell out. hes not the only one to sell out... they ALL have.
everyone has sold out at one time or another except RON PAUL.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016


Patrick Leahy has decided that he will do away with the warrentless Internet surveillance proposal after public criticism.


However, "a vote on the

However, "a vote on the proposal in the Senate Judiciary committee, which Leahy chairs, is scheduled for next Thursday".

They are still voting on it anyway, so the dirty work has been done. He's now distancing himself from it only publicly. Scumbag.

Be careful. If you speak out

Be careful. If you speak out against government policies, the right for liberty, personal freedom or any other subject the state doesn't approve of you may be labeled a domestic terrorist. When Obama, George Soros and Cass Sunstein said they were in favor of a more "progressive living" constitution, we had better take them seriously. "I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedoms of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.' James Madison

Bob Marshall

You know that they are going to immediately start with us.


ensure yourself now

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

They already do.

They already do.

Outrage? It's out of our

Outrage? It's out of our hands guys. Not until the people stand up will there be real change. Not gonna happen in my lifetime...the people just don't care as long as the score to the ball games are still scrolling across the screen.

Nothing shocks me anymore.

Text from proposed bill, pretty scary stuff

Basically, it says a government agency can gather all the information in Section (B) WITHOUT A WARRANT. All they would need is a subpoena and they also wouldn't have to contact the telecom provider or customer.


(A) IN GENERAL.—A governmental entity may require a provider of electronic communication service, remote computing service, or geolocation information service to disclose information described in subparagraph (B) if the governmental entity obtains—

(i) an administrative subpoena under a Federal or State statute; or
(ii) a Federal or State grand jury subpoena or trial subpoena.

(B) REQUIREMENTS.—The information described in this subparagraph is—

(i) the name of the subscriber or customer;
(ii) the address of the subscriber or customer;
(iii) the local and long distance telephone connection records, or records of session times and durations, of the subscriber or customer;
(iv) length of service (including start date) and types of service utilized by the subscriber or customer;
(v) telephone or instrument number or other subscriber number or identity, including any temporarily assigned network address, of the subscriber or customer; and
(vi) means and source of payment for such service (including any credit card or bank account number) of the subscriber or customer.

(3) NOTICE NOT REQUIRED.—A governmental entity that receives records or information under this subsection is not required to provide notice to a subscriber or customer.’

they think they can get away with it bc they give no notice

and so they feel nobody will notice... conspiracy theories are just factual observations. The first cyber false flag is surely on its way.

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

The Senate Judiciary Committee

will be considering the bill on November 29.

These are the Senators on the Judiciary Committee:

Blumenthal, Richard [CT]
Coburn, Tom [OK]
Coons, Chris [DE]
Cornyn, John [TX]
Durbin, Dick [IL]
Feinstein, Dianne [CA]
Franken, Al [MN]
Graham, Lindsey [SC]
Hatch, Orrin [UT]
Klobuchar, Amy [MN]
Kohl, Herb [WI]
Kyl, Jon [AZ]
Leahy, Patrick [VT]
Lee, Mike [UT]
Sessions, Jeff [AL]
Schumer, Chuck [NY]
Whitehouse, Sheldon [RI]

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Thanks for the list

Being from Texas I just emailed my disgust of this bill to John Cornyn.

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

Name of the Bill?

I've gotta email him as well. What's the actual name of the bill.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

The bill is HR 2471

However, nothing has officially been proposed. The language of the bill can be changed at any time before the Judiciary Committee considers it on November 29.

If you contact your Senator, just state your concern about proposed legislation by Senator Leahy in the Judiciary Committee that would allow government agencies to access electronic records without a warrant.

you can bet

Hatch, Orrin [UT] will vote for this.

The purpose of this bill is not to let them do it

It is to protect the government entities that do it from being prosecuted. This will be a fourth amendment issue.