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Marco Rubio Is Not Sure How Old the Earth Is

I saw this link at the web site reporting on the tampon extracting nazi police story...


"In the Q&A, Rubio was asked how old he thinks the Earth is. His answer: "I'm not a scientist, man."
"Turns out Rubes isn't a scientist. He's just a deep thinker, man. Also, he's a Pandering McPanderpants. "

Ahhh... Pandering McPanderpants... Rubio, say it ain't so!

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Why didn't Noah

put two of every Dinosaur in his Ark? As he did with two of every species of mammal? No room?

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Good one Trevor... don't expect an answer to that one.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Of course they did.

what chapter in the bible is that in?


that pretty much settles it!

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

So creationists say...

That every species of plant and animal that exists today, has existed since the beginning of time. Humans, trilobites, and dinosaurs, coexisted. Yet, if you go to continuous sedimentary layers of rocks, eg. Grand Canyon, you clearly see there are species at the lower (older) layers that aren't at the top, and species at the higher (younger) layers that aren't at the bottom. And this same sequence of fossil species are repeated all over the world in different cross sections of sedimentary layers, time after time after time.

In the Gulf of Mexico, where we have drilled 40,000 wells, we see the same thing with microfossils. As we drill down from younger to older sediments, the species come and go, and the same sequence of the same species is repeated over and over and over in every well. Otherwise, they would not use paleontologists in oil exploration. But they do, and rely quite heavily on the paleontologist identifying the age of the layers.

How do creationists explain this? Did God decide to come back and put new species on the earth every few years, every few hundred years, every few thousand years? Considering how many differnet species of plants, insects, mammals, reptiles, etc., that would have kept God mighty busy!

For this discussion, it doesn't matter if the earth is 6,000 years old or 6 billion years old, what matters is that there is indeed a continuous change in the plants and animals over time. It doesn't matter if you call this micro- or macro- evolution, the point is that you have distinct change in the living organisms that is recorded in sediments. Even if you don't believe that man evolved from different ancestors, how can you dispute this clear and overwhelming proof that plants and animals changed from one to another?

'Cause there's a monster on the loose


Some creationists claim the immaculate conception was "God" putting a new DNA link in the chain.. or removing a link.. "the missing link". Thus begins the jpourney to Nibiru the Annanaki and Boblical explainations that seem "alien".


God put a new DNA link with the immaculate conception? But the traditional 'missing link' is between humans and their ancestors, how can this 'missing link' be between Jesus and the people who already existed for quite a while before him, and after him.

Maybe I misunderstood you, thanks for the explanation though. Can you elaborate, that's pretty interesting.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

immaculate conception

There are many videos available on this, here's a good article http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/enoch/esp_enoch_7.htm

Not true

It's not science vs religion. It's good science vs bad science. There are many scientists that strongly believe evolution requires much more faith to believe than creation. Molecular biologists, biochemistry, astronomy, etc. if really interested I can send you papers and credentials.

No, not many.

No, not many.

I consider his answer to his position on NDAA

To be a MUCH better reason to NOT support him.


Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie

Who cares?

Ron Paul doesn't accept the theory of evolution.

It is a personal belief and is irrelevant politically.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Nor does he accept creationism 100%

Listen to that video, right at the end he admits there's no proof on either side. He is at a christian forum, obviously uncomforatable with the question.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Substantial proof of

Substantial proof of evolution. Overwhelming. It can be demonstrated, reproduced, and used to make predictions. That's a lot different than the other theory, which is not exactly in complete conflict with evolution.

I didn't say he does

All I said is that he doesn't accept evolution.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

I didn't say you said he does...


'Cause there's a monster on the loose

is the Earth on fire? or is it cooling off?

if it is 4.5 billion years old, that is a pretty long time to go considering it is covered in water and still has molten lava leaking out the top.....
what if like the sun, the Earth is a ball of Plasma? with a thin crust on top?

good point...

but even 6000 years is a long time to stay hot, unless there is some mechanism that keeps it hot. This is way out of my sphere of intellect, but the earth is in motion. Seems like anything in motion would have the capacity to continue to generate heat. A ball bearing, for example, with stay warm as long as the machine that is keeping it in motion is running.

Perhaps the force that causes the movement of the earth, and which causes the magnetic field around the earth, also is responsible for keeping the earth hot.

If 6000 years is NOT long enough for the earth to cool down, how might you say that 1 million years IS long enough, or a billion years IS long enough?

Interesting dialog HVAC, old friend! Hope business is good for you.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

I thought we were enemies....

just kidding, I do hope to someday visit with both you and BMWjim.
just so you know. I am planted here in AR now and we are not so far away.
I love the gulf coast south of nawlins. special people down there..
if you know what a red stick is...
what ever happened to that chick who used to post during the whole "asphalt volcano" thing?
are there plans to poke another hole in it?
if you ever get the chance, be sure to visit the la Brea tar pits in L.A. (cali)
they are in Hollywood and you could throw a rock and hit Wilshire BLVD.

Just my 2 cents....

I'm a big fan of Carl Sagan and other scientists. But many including Carl decided to take the humble stance on this issue. Lack of evidence does not mean certainty.

There are evil scientists (literally) throughout history. Just check out the Nazi human experiments. And there are evil people who believe in Allah and other Gods. 9-11 is a perfect example of how that can go. Or check out animal experiments where scientists essentially torture monkeys, shoot at them, blow them up with atomic bombs, give them biological cancers, diseases etc.


Science and religion both are not utopian moral and ethical outlets. They both have good and bad aspects.

If you don't take the total sum of a persons ideas and character into account, you are making a very limited judgement. Give a person a gun and they can use it for good or bad. Give them a religion and the same holds true.

Do Not Define Your Vote on Creation v. Intel Design V. Evolution

Personally, I believe in an Almighty God and that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, but I am not going to ignore science or any learning from my upbringing.

Evolution should not be a defining issue to decide whether or not to elect any public official. Obviously, those who believe in God or even Jesus Christ is the Messiah do not believe that the globe is 4.6 billion or even 13 billion years. I have read that those individuals, groups, or theologians believe that the earth is thousands, tens of thousands, or even millions of years old. What should the origins of the earth be the only issue that liberty activists care?

Actually, the majority of

Actually, the majority of Christians accept the reality of evolution and the fact that the earth is about 4 1/2 billion years old. It's basically a minority of biblical literalists who insist that Genesis be treated as a scientific treatise.

in other words you believe the majority of Christians...

do not believe the Word of God. There are many statements in scripture that make it impossible to believe in evolution not least in the teachings of the Lord Jesus Himself. He validated the written Word of God as being unbreakable and no amount of mental contortions can make the Word say something it does not.

Certainly the Bible is not a scientific treatise nor is it a history book nor is it a book of poetry nor a book of stories about a certain people but it contains elements of all of these. Most importantly the Bible is a spiritual book and can only be truly understood by the Spirit. It was given to mankind by the One who created all things and it is His revelation of His plan and purposes for all of us and for His Creation. As the apostle Paul said it is useful for teaching, reproof, correction and training in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16). The scriptures relating to the impossibility of evolution being true would qualify as being correcting in nature if we are straying from the truth.

So if, as you assert, the "majority" of Christians accept the reality of evolution then most Christians must have a very lukewarm understanding of scripture and are in need of reproof.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)



"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I certainly do not need you

I certainly do not need you to interpret the Bible for me.

That's right Bob

You asked for the scriptures and I gave them to you. It is up to you now to understand them according to the light you have received.

The institutional churches have for the most part left the path of righteousness and hearken to the doctrines of demons. There are probably hundreds of millions of Christians held captive by the Christian Religious System called [religious] Babylon in the Bible.

This is next to impossible for any Christian committed to a denominational church to believe but it is why so many accept evolution as being true, why they are obsessed with the counterfeit State of Israel, why they believe that the loving God manifested by the Lord Jesus Christ, the one and only Son of God and the firstborn of many brethren, would unjustly condemn billions of His natural children to a fiery torture in hell for eternity and why they can justify this evil doctrine by dogmatically asserting that men are free moral agents.

It is time for a new revelation of the righteous and holy majesty, power and glory of God to humanity and it is on its way when the sons of God are manifested to a groaning Creation. (Romans 8:18-25)

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

The Catholic church has long

The Catholic church has long accepted the scientific findings on the age of the earth (~4.6 billion years) and the reality of evolution by natural selection. So you, like many a Protestant bible thumper, are claiming to be a better theologian than the Pope.

Please cite the actual sayings of Jesus (in the Gospels) where He states that evolution by natural selection is false. Or where Jesus gives any estimate of the age of the earth. From what I recall, those topics were never a matter of concern to Jesus.

Matthew 19:4

Matthew 19:4 He answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female, 19:5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ 19:6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” (This saying validates the Genesis account of Creation.)

John 10:35 If those people to whom the word of God came were called ‘gods’ (and the scripture cannot be broken), 10:36 do you say about the one whom the Father set apart and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? `(The scripture that the Lord Jesus says cannot be broken is the Tanach, what we call the Old Testament wherein we find the account of the Creation).

Also check out my comment below headed "We live in an Age of Confusion and mixture".

What you are saying is that you depend upon the Pope rather than the Word of God to understand scripture. We do not need men to interpret the Word of God for us we have the Spirit of Truth to do that.

John 16:13 "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. For he will not speak on his own authority, but will speak whatever he hears, and will tell you what is to come. 16:14 He will glorify me, because he will receive from me what is mine and will tell it to you."

1 John 2:27 "Now as for you, the anointing that you received from him resides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things, it is true and is not a lie. Just as it has taught you, you reside in him."

I do not consider myself a "Protestant" nor indeed any denominational label. I am a son of God and a bondservant of the Lord Jesus Christ the one and only Son of God. I depend upon Him to lead me.

Romans 8:14 "For all who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God. 8:15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery leading again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, “Abba, Father.” 8:16 The Spirit himself bears witness to our spirit that we are God’s children. 8:17 And if children, then heirs (namely, heirs of God and also fellow heirs with Christ) – if indeed we suffer with him so we may also be glorified with him."

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

There are many statements in

There are many statements in scripture that make it impossible to believe in scripture. The scriptures even contradict themselves in places, so even if you are a devotee, this should raise some questions in your mind.

You are very wrong

There are MANY apparent contradictions!
There are NO contradictions!
The Word of God is true!

Praise be the name of Jesus Christ, the very Word of God!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~