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No US Sailor witnessed the bin Laden burial at sea.


No sailors saw it, and...

"The Defense Department previously said it did not have any photographs or video to support its claim the SEALs killed the al-Qaeda leader. It also admitted there were no images taken of Bin Laden’s body on the Vinton.

The Pentagon does not have a death certificate, autopsy report or results of DNA identification tests for bin Laden, or any pre-raid materials discussing how the government planned to dispose of bin Laden’s body if he were killed, the Daily Mail reports."

EVEN IF the "official story" held water, it means that a man who was never charged with any crimes relating to 9-11 was murdered without a trial for the crime he was not charged with.... and the citizens of the US rejoiced.

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Its very simple. When Obama took office he was amazed to find

out that Osama Bin Laden had died of natural cuases long ago, but it had not been reported in order to keep the wars going.

Bush even pooh-poohed a reposter's question about Bin Laden by saying he wasn't important anymore.

There was no way that Obama was NOT going take credit - so he set up an elaborate story at a time when his popularity was at an all time (to that point) low.

Bin Laden didn't die that night and he wasn't buried that day.

Obama took a HUGE chance with America's credibility when he invented this story - but he needed the popularity so he took it.

bin Laden had dialysis on 9-10-01, and supposedly died 5-1-11


Apparently, people with end stage kidney disease need to quit dialysis and go hide in caves in Afghanistan until the US military shows up to kill them 10 years later. They will likely live more than twice as long that way.
"In general, those undergoing dialysis therapy have an average life expectancy of 4 years..."

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:

You should have properly quoted the prognosis answer.

"[...] although many survive as long as 25 years on dialysis therapy."

If you just copied that directly from Infowars, then no harm no foul on your part. Infowars has a habit of misquoting or incomplete quoting text to suit their reporting agendas.

I'm not attacking you, nor defending Obama. I doubt it was Osama killed in the raid.

A couple more thoughts

Do a little math real quick. If the average is 4 years but some live to 25 years, that means some die the first time they get dialysis. it is a high risk procedure, every time.
Also, I was making the point about the AVERAGE - saying the average dialysis patient would be better off going to live in a cave than taking dialysis. I quoted the part that pertained to the average, then put the link RIGHT THERE for you to finish.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:

the dots...

Those indicate a partial quote. For those who don't speak pharma-ese, the average is the average. The exception is stated to give hope to all those folks who just learned they only have 4 years to live. With bin Laden's other health problems, (Marfans) he was not likely to beat the average.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:

Where's the Flippin' Body?

I won't say, "I told you so", because none of us have the facts or ANY facts really regarding Osama's alleged death at the hand of SEALs during Obama's administration. Osama was known to suffer from Marfan's syndrome and was quite ill as early as 2000 which many American people ignored. Hence they were suckered AGAIN due to their foolish trust of government and refusal to insist on verifiable facts. During the original propaganda, I could just sense another snow job from THEE professional con, government.

Reminds me of the stench around JFK Jr.'s burial at sea.

All that fuss to dredge him up and throw him back in? And if you don't think he was murdered, do a little research.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:

Not surprised.

Can't see something that never happened. Bin Laden died in Dec. 2001.

Blessings )o(

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The helicopters would have had to refuel at least 6-8 times

The distance of Abbottabad, Pakistan to the nearest coast (Karachi) is 1,000 miles plus an unknown distance at sea to get to the USS Carl Vinton.

Range of a typical Apache helicopter (a secret type of helicopter was used with this bin Laden assassination, so who knows.):

(3) Range. The ATKHB can attack targets up to 150 km across the FLOT (forward line of own troops. If greater depth is required, the addition of ERFS tanks can further extend the AH-64's range with a corresponding reduction in Hellfire missile carrying capacity (four fewer Hellfire missiles for each ERFS tank installed).
^ a b c d Hudson, Joel B. (2 April 1997). "Attack Helicopter Operations" (PDF). Department of the Army. p. 166.

No wonder that there is not even one cell phone picture of this supposed burial at sea. It didn't happen, IMO.

WELL, as a Guy who use to work on these.

I do not know the specifics of the mission, nor did I find any interests in looking into it, due to the fact I knew it was BULLL CHIT from the beginning. There are several types of helicopters that have a range of more than 8 hours. ALSO, MH-60 is MID AIR refuel capable. This can easily be seen in the movie Perfect Storm with george Clooney. This is the same type of helicopter that was in Black Hawk Down.

The Airforce Special ops and the Army Special operations helicopters are ONLY limited by the oil consumption of the engine due to their mid air refuel behing a C-130. There are SEVERAL missions that are recorded in excess of 12 hours.

A most likely scenario, is the spec ops birds that carried the seals in, were launched from afghanistan, performed the bogus mistaken identity assasination mission, then traveled to the ship mentioned above.

IF ah-64's were used, they do have a limited range, as they do NOT have mid air refueling, they were launched from afghanistan, then returned back to afghanistan. If the Apache was used, it would only be necessary at the attack zone, and would not escort the birds out to the ship. AH-64 is NOT designed for ship based use, as they do not have a rotor brake, nor quick folding blades, nor a folding tail as some of the Pave/black/razor black hawks. Apaches only have a pilot and gunner. They have NO cargo/pax area.

Take it from me.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

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Thanks for that info.

It looks like one refueling would get them to the coast.

Length: 64.8 ft (17.1 meters)
Height: 16.8 ft (4.4 meters)
Rotary Diameter: 53.7 ft (14.1 meters)
Speed: 184 mph
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 22,000 lbs
Range: 450 nautical miles

The midair-refueling looks extremely dangerous.

I, for one, am glad to see

I, for one, am glad to see this story. I was appalled when it happened. I do not and will NEVER believe it was Bin Lauden. Thanks for posting.