Tom Woods: Ron Paul and The Non-Aggression Principle, Secession Nullification
Submitted by fonzdrew on Fri, 11/23/2012 - 23:32»
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So You Think
everyone walked around with guns on their hips shooting anyone that disagreed with them? You have watched too many John Wayne movies. I have read that people never really had shootouts in the street either. They really would just shoot folks in the back when they weren't expecting it. Oh yeah, people are SOOO GOOOOD! Who's in Lala land?!
skippy
Is there some class Anarchists take to learn this technique?
"So you think (insert Anarchist tripe)."
You forgot to call me a retard and a stupid sheep. Come on... John Wayne? You can do better than that.
competition vs. monopoly in services
If people are not good, then why give a group of people a monopoly on justice? The service of justice provision should have competition in order to prevent the bad people from joining the monopoly.
So you don't get Goon Squads Anarchist, because you're a liar.
A monopoly? I'm a Libertarian? Do you even know what that is?
Federal, State, County, City. There's no monopoly on force, it's supposed to be a tiered system with you having as much say as possible, and if all else fails, you can vote with your legs.
You just want "a free market" of force, with a bunch of Judas Goat Anarchists free to buy Goon squads to go out and initiate force against people who have no association, or representation in your free market of force.
Sorry, no Goon Squads for you Anarchist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNIgztvyU2U&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFxvy9XyUtg
Spare me the Anarchist links.
I went in into that video and demonstrated that LarkenRose is a punk who can't explain himself when challenged. NO ANARCHIST CAN.
He ran away and hid. Not a single one could even respond to me. All an Anarchist can do is hit the thumbs down button, and run away looking for easier prey.
Anarchists are Judas Goats and self aware liars leading the naive.
The Wild West
So are you actually familiar with the scholarly work on the wild west? Did you read the Anderson and Leal book published by Stanford? Which part did you find unpersuasive?
The rest of your comment is the same kind of ignorant bile. How likely is it that Woods believes all of mankind is good and atrocities have never occurred? Given that there is zero chance of this, and you obviously realize this can't possibly be Woods' position, why would you spew this bile anyway?
Why would you advance the crimes of governments as if they refute, rather than vindicate, what Woods is saying?
Where has Woods or any other Rothbardian ever said that human beings are naturally good? I would like a citation.
And finally, Dr. Paul urges us to read Woods, Rothbard, Rockwell, Murphy, and plenty of others who oppose the initiation of force, so I think I'm going to stick to Dr. Paul's recommendations, and not claim that his recommendations are "worthless."
"So are you actually familiar
"So are you actually familiar with the scholarly work on the wild west?"
Are you familiar with the Native Americans? What books do you think I need to read so that I'll understand that the west was actually a utopia of nonaggression? Maybe I should buy Tom's book? Please, enlighten me, so I too can play make believe and pretend I'll get liberty without justice.
"The rest of your comment is the same kind of ignorant bile. How likely is it that Woods believes all of mankind is good and atrocities have never occurred?"
I have no doubt that he knows atrocities are the norm in human history. He's not stupid. He's just playing naive, and thinks if he keeps saying "the non-aggression principle" long enough it will come true. (try clicking your heels three times)
Maybe if he says it enough he can get rid of all those people who choose violence to take what they covet? Maybe if he says it enough he can convince people to get rid of the systems of justice we create to meet injustice with force?
Is he an Anarchist or a Libertarian? Tell me?
"Why would you advance the crimes of governments as if they refute, rather than vindicate, what Woods is saying?"
Because I'm not some naive Anarchist who tries to blame our evils on the governments we create. The problem runs deeper, and it doesn't go away when we get rid of government. It will follows us into whatever system we create, and if that system is without justice, I feel obligated to speak out for the sake of those a Judas Goat would see destroyed.
Governments are as flawed as the men who create them, and when I look around today, all I see are covetous people who use their vote like a fist, stealing what they unjustly want.
"Where has Woods or any other Rothbardian ever said that human beings are naturally good? I would like a citation."
How about his video? That's all an Anarchist ever does. All they do is spout off their talking points like parrots, and if you even bring up mans covetous nature they go on the attack, such as you're doing now. It's pathetic to watch an Anarchist cover their eyes to human history.
"And finally, Dr. Paul urges us to read Woods, Rothbard, Rockwell, Murphy, and plenty of others who oppose the initiation of force"
He also hired Jesse Benton, and had his campaign tell people to hide their buttons and shows of support, to only parrot his talking points, and to even pretend to be Romney supporters!!! I stopped caring about "his recommendations" as soon as I figured out he never had any intention of winning. He ran a self defeating campaign from beginning to end trying to sucker money out of people while his son was endorsing Mitt Romney.
"so I think I'm going to stick to Dr. Paul's recommendations, and not claim that his recommendations are worthless"
I'm a Libertarian. You go ahead and do whatever you want. I want people to be the owners of their own minds, bodies, and labor, so you go ahead and keep reading, and when you figure out that you aren't ever going to get liberty without justice, that the two go hand in hand, get back to me.
I'll be waiting.
Did I just hear him say that the Founding Fathers were thugs?
LOL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.
He Said
that those that try to solve stuff with violence are thugs. I guess you could consider THAT calling them thugs since they had a hay day with the indigenous people.
skippy
Thugs?
Like I've said many times; Anarchists make great slaves.
"He said that those that try to solve stuff with violence are thugs."
Should we use violence to end slavery? Is his answer is to call the man with the whip a thug? A whip master knows he's a thug, and enjoys thuggery. It's like a farmer whipping his mule; the mule is here to serve, and he enjoys watching his mule produce value at the end of a whip.
Some people think they have a right to rule, that they're surrounded by animals, something less than them. The words that come out of a slaves mouth don't even matter, and if Tom thinks calling such people thugs is the solution, his master would just tear out his monkey tongue and whip him into submission.
"I guess you could consider THAT calling them thugs since they had a hay day with the indigenous people."
Indigenous people can represent ANYBODY who currently has what a covetous man wants. Racism, hate, and fear are all just tools to fan mans covetous nature, to justify TAKING from indigenous people, but ultimately, we'll come up with any excuse needed. There's always some way to define indigenous people as "them", the bad guys who have what we want (need).
Is justice thuggery or the answer to it?
I was referring to going to war with england and joking
but I guess that works too. :)
I was also thinking at the time about how I am thug too or would be if it ever looked like we were really with no hope and I thought we could change that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.
Too True
Hope it doesn't come to that but really fear it will. Better dig in!
skippy
Great video.
Big fan of Mr.Woods.
Tom Woods is great as always! BUMP
I watched this a few hours ago, it is fantastic! BUMP