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Fulfilled: The Sycamore Tree, 9/11 and the American Prophecy Has Come to Pass

http://youtu.be/hnXSBLNPhBU

Mysterious connection between Isaiah 9:10, 9/11 and the sycamore tree explored by the book the Harbinger written by Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn. Interview with Trunews host Rick Wiles.

No longer a prediction.

This is happening.

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Update:

Freedom Tower at Ground Zero Reaches New Heights
Newly constructed World Trade Center building becomes tallest in New York City.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/freedom-tower-ground-reaches...

sorta like political Talking Heads

they talk a lot, but they don't say much.

moving on.

I was wondering if any of the preterists

on here have ever read this book, "The Harbinger", or know of any preterist sites where it is reviewed.

Very interesting.

Although I am not sure that some of these players, like Daschle, didn't know exactly what they were doing. These folks are very into spell-casting.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so grave an end of a nation

I'm fascinated at the response of those who know all. (Except an intimate relationship with God)

None of this information is theory or shall I say conspiracy theory.

It's already taken place. It's concrete evidence of things that have come to pass with extraordinary precision.

Deadly precision...

America is going down.

For those who believe in God and His will toward America this is good news.

The corrupt, man-made, super structures will be torn down.

God will not forsake or forget America.

Figure out what YOUR role is in all this and what you are required to do at this time.

I agree with you BT.

I was also disappointed with some of the comments here. For a number of reasons going back many years I agree that those powers that presently control America are being taken down. I believe that it will be a traumatic time for many Americans but for those who are prepared and can explain the meaning of what is happening it will be as you say a time of liberation from the chains of Babylon.

However the prophecies were not aimed exclusively or even primarily at America although that is definitely the view taken by Jonathan Cahn. He himself has said that he is a "watchman on the walls of Jerusalem". He is also a Messianic Jew. It has I believe missed his attention that the messages he has received are to be applied to that nation he so fervently supports and idolises, the Jewish State in Palestine.

I wrote a post several months ago on this topic although in the context of the Republican nomination race. In that post I analysed the videos of the Harbinger and came to the conclusion that they were primarily aimed at the Jewish State and Jerusalem. As I watched the video in the OP I asked the Lord to confirm to me the accuracy of that analysis. First He brought to mind an event from my own life that took place in 1983 when a fire gutted an office building in which I was working. Then He replicated that experience with a report from the interviewer on the video that a Bible was found at Ground Zero by some firemen and it was open at Jeremiah chapter 11. This is especially significant because Jeremiah is precisely the prophet I referred to in my own post that I am linking here for your attention. I suggest you also read the chapter in question.

http://www.dailypaul.com/245856/final-victory-is-certain-par...

The relevant portion about the Harbinger series is about half way down the article but you may find the entire article interesting.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

My wife and I were just talking about

all the things happenning these days last night.

I realized that America resembles the Roman Empire at about the time Jesus walked the earth.

His followers were hoping for an earthy "New King" in Jeus.

One that wouldn't rob and abuse them.

But they were disappointed because He was here to recover mankind to the position that God entrusted to Adam.

He didn't come to reign only over a state called Rome.

He came as king above every king - of the entire creation.

They didn't get it for a long time.

Some never did.

I have very little problem with Jonathan's portrayal of the revelations he has received.

If America isn't staggering spiritually today than I don't know what you would call a nation who is in bondage to an evil cabal of banksters (for whom I once worked) enslaved to a debt that can never be paid -- ever.

Over many years my wife (as a V.P for Bayer, Celanese and Fuji) came to know dozens of gay men and women. She is disturbed by the fact that the bible calls homo's sinners even though these people have regarded he highly as a true friend she maintains her position that they are at odds with God.

I reminded her that Jesus walked in healing, forgiveness and liberation.

The only ones he really got aggressive with were the criminal banksters.

I mean Jesus even re-attached a Roman soldier's severed ear who had come to escort him to his tortuous and humiliating death.

I hope you take the time to read my post BT.

The main point is that what we call America today has been in captivity to Mystery (Hidden or Secret) Babylon since 1913 and the passage of the Federal Reserve Act.

The 9/11 attack was a judgement of God aimed at this global empire that rules not only America but much of the remainder of the world through its central banking network which it uses to plunder the resources of the nations and enslave the people to its debt.

This empire is the ultimate outworking of the kingdom of the world that is a counterfeit kingdom of god created by men to usurp the true Kingdom of God. It is pictured in the parable of the wheat and the tares that I mention in my post. In this regard it has been growing along with the true Kingdom since the beginning when the Lord returned in the power of the Spirit at Pentecost 33 A.D. It is mentioned in its nascent form by the apostle John in his letters where he identifies it as the antichrist. The Greek prefix anti- may mean in opposition to or instead of. The latter meaning can be construed in the present case where the leaders of the Jews in the first century A.D. usurped the sceptre of the Lord Jesus, and crucified the King of Glory. These usurpers are the cabal at the centre of the opposition to the Kingdom of God in the world and their machinations have been gaining ground and power along with the growth of the true Kingdom in the heavens of God's Spirit.

In 1948 when they usurped the Birthright name of Israel they thereby made themselves liable to bring forth the true Kingdom of God or face the consequences. The Kingdom of God is a people in the image and likeness of God conformed to the image of the one and only Son of God the Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore since they themselves deny His Name and reject His claim to His Kingship and His Kingdom it is impossible for them to bring forth the Kingdom of the Son.

What they envisage to be the kingdom is a perverse understanding they have held for a very long time that they are a chosen race destined to rule the world because they are the physical descendants of the one to whom the covenants and promises of God were given, the man Abraham through his son Isaac. It is this carnal interpretation of the scriptures that led them to reject the Lord Jesus Christ in His first advent and it is the same error that has gripped the mind of the Christian churches today who accept that these people have a special covenantal relationship with God that is unique and salvific apart from the atoning work of the Lord Jesus Christ. This means that the churches themselves are possessed of an antichrist spirit when they put the Jewish State at the centre of their devotions and are not only apostate but have betrayed the Lord who bought them with a price.

It is therefore in this context that the events of 9/11 must be understood. Yes the Christian churches are being called to repentance but it is not to intercede for America for the sins of the unconverted. These sins themselves are a judgement on America, along with the captivity of Mystery Babylon, due to the apostasy of the Christian churches and their failure to carry out the commands of their Saviour and Lord. It is they who have failed to bring forth the Kingdom of God, the Manchild, the corporate Christ, by their disobedience and adherence to the traditions of men rather than the commandments of God.

The plague of abortion has been visited upon the world because the Church has aborted the Manchild. The plague of sexual perversions has been visited upon the world because the Church has committed adultery with the kings of the world. She has gone after the Baals and the Ashteroths in their modern forms, the carnal pursuits of the world. She has become comfortable in the fleshpots of Babylon while teaching the people of God the doctrines of demons and keeping them in captivity to the flesh. Many believe that the US government is planning to round up Christians and put them in FEMA camps. What is this but a fear of what has already occurred to them spiritually. The churches are simply prison camps for baby Christians whose spiritual growth has been stunted.

There is indeed a need for Christians, especially Christian leaders, to repent. This is unlikely to happen until the idols in their hearts are destroyed and they see clearly what has become of them. I believe that day is close at hand.

What you say of the Lord Jesus Christ is true, yet the churches teach that anyone who refuses to believe the Gospel will be condemned to a fiery hell for eternity. This is one of the doctrines of demons taught by the Church for the past sixteen hundred years and is one of the sinful practices that must be repented of if a restoration is to take place. Personally I am convinced that this is exactly what is going to happen probably after the Jewish State and Jerusalem are destroyed.

Here is the most recent entry in a series called Foundation For Intercession from a website I visit and read every a day. I believe you will find it illuminating. It talks about what we have been discussing.

http://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/ffi-newsletter/...

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Very thorough David Robertson

Very thorough David Robertson

deacon's picture

where in any bible does it say

or even state that america is mentioned?
i have never read that in any bible i have read
deacon

edit,
what is laughable that self professed Christians
can't even answer a question,a rather simple question
so here is another one,the bible records god walked with adam
and eve in the garden of eden,but when moses went up to write
the 10 commandments,why was he told not to look upon the face of god,as he would surely die.why?
no, i do not expect an response for this question,but rather,
another down vote or 2
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I'll try to answer that deacon

1.) You are correct, America is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible although many try to foolishly force that into Scripture.

2.) Adam did walk with God in the garden of Eden. Now this was before sin entered in. After that, it does not say anywhere that Adam saw God, but rather heard Him and was in great fear as he tried to cover his nakedness.

Once sin entered the world, man could never look upon the face of a holy God and live as God Himself tells us (" Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live" is what God said to Moses)

3.) Moses did not write the 10 Commandments.

They were written by the finger of God and given to Moses on 2 tablets of stone, who was then to give the Law to the people of Israel (and all mankind thereby).

That "Law" was to show all mankind his futility in trying to be right and just with God by keeping all the Commandments ( for no man could do that ) and therefore the Law was a schoolmaster that would point us to Christ ( the "Way" and only Way to salvation).

Christ DID keep the whole Law perfectly, He fulfilled it, and thereby could take upon Himself the sins of His people ( Matthew 1:21 ) and pay for all those sins, and the resurrection of Christ was the proof that Christ did pay the penalty of sin in full, so that all who would believe on Him ( and ONLY those who would believe on Him as Savior ) would be saved.

Moses never saw the "face of God" but only the hinder part of Him as He passed by Moses who was hidden in a cleft of a rock, and because of that, Moses face shone so bright, he had to cover it with a vail when he came down from the mountain.

Hope this helps!

Peace

PS: I up-voted you for your very good questions!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Yes Moses did see God's face!

http://bible.cc/exodus/33-11.htm

...seems like the Author of Exodus is going out of his way to make sure the reader understands that Moses really did see God's face. How do you speak to a friend? The Author says "...as one speaks to a friend". Personally, when I speak to a friend face-to-face...we see each other's faces. No interpretation necessary. The problem here is only with Christians that think the Bible contains no error and are forced to come up some goofy explanation so that this entry in Exodus doesn't conflict with what the Apostle John said.

Moses saw God's face...and lived.

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
- President John F. Kennedy

nope

Exo 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
Exo 33:21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
Exo 33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
Exo 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Nope to you!

New International Version (©1984)

Exodus 33:11 "The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent."

If you can not accept the plain fact that the Bible states that God spoke with Moses "fact to face" as a man "speaks with his friend"...then you are in denial. The Bible states this plainly.

How do you explain Exodus 33:11? You can't without making up some BS so you can justify your false belief that the Bible contains no error or inconsistency.

Sorry to be so frank...but seriously people!

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
- President John F. Kennedy

I don't think that can be answered positively

off the cuff like this, but one very possible reason is that they were without knowledge of sin in the garden. Once sin entered and they were cast out then man could no longer stand in His presence.

Or you could consider that Elohim the Father was not to be looked at but Elohim the Son was the one who was manifest to men.

"for God did light it and the Lamb was the light thereof" Rev.

Just a few possible explanations.

deacon's picture

thank you and holbrook

love the input,it has gotten so bad around here no one wants to answer
questions,i guess they feel attacked for questioning them,when it isn't that at all
but you all realize i now have more research now :)
as i now have more questions
thanks again
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Mind Boggling Coincidences Coming From ...

a book (the Bible) proven beyond any reasonable doubt to be loaded from cover to cover with contradictions, error, and false prophesies here:

"Sowing The Seeds For A Peace Revolution"
- http://www.dailypaul.com/241312/sowing-the-seeds-for-a-peace...

Who can explain this mystery? Why would a small amount of seemingly supernatural knowledge be embedded into a book which otherwise is so clearly riddled with error?

- AMAZING PHOTO delineating where UNRESTRAINED CAPITALISM has taken us: http://www.rense.com/general96/whatare.html
- "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."-- Mohandas Gandhi

lindalsalisbury's picture

Truth is for you

to sort out. What I try to remember is that the bible was put together by Romans 200 years after Christ died; and written by the Jewish historians (written by Jews, for the benefit of Jews, and under extreme duress) Parts that the Romans did not agree with were left out, and no telling what other editing took place. There is substance and truth in the Bible, you just have to judge for yourself where the truth lies.

One omen, I believe to be the truth is the fact that the symbol of wall street is the "bull", now they have the root of the destroyed sycamore tree. As, I recall, the Idol of Baal is the bull (remember the story of Moses and the golden calf). I believe that wall street and the fed are evil worshipers of money, and therefore have the stench of idol worship.

A truth I have come upon, originating in the Bible.

You Cannot Alter An Inconvenient Truth By Merely...

Voting Down My Comments!!!!!! That you have offered no argument, or anything of substance to the contrary speaks VOLUMES that your position is based upon misguided faith.

Furthermore, continued use of this tactic will only be met with yet more BLOWBACK to your cause.

- AMAZING PHOTO delineating where UNRESTRAINED CAPITALISM has taken us: http://www.rense.com/general96/whatare.html
- "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."-- Mohandas Gandhi

Simple explaination

It's not supernatural knowledge. The NWO read about this stuff then created events based on it.

Disregard government. Acquire liberty.

I agree,

Everyone wants an OUT; they won't sacrifice, confront, or assist in promoting truth, confronting error, or stand in the gap themselves because they do not believe what they claim they believe.

The "Left Behind" stuff sells, but Foxe's Book of Martyrs never happened....everyone is in denial that kings and emperors fear the people when they rise up in righteous indignation, and take all necessary measures to keep them down; because...they're right....

Reincarnation of George Washington in... Uganda?

Ugandan president repents of personal, national sins
'We confess idolatry, witchcraft, political hypocrisy, dishonesty, intrigue'

"Should a president lead citizens in a national prayer of repentance?

Uganda’s Christian president believes so.

The Ugandan newssite New Vision reports President Yoweri Museveni celebrated Uganda’s 50th anniversary of independence from Britain at the National Jubilee Prayers event by publicly repenting of his personal sin and the sins of the nation.

“I stand here today to close the evil past, and especially in the last 50 years of our national leadership history and at the threshold of a new dispensation in the life of this nation. I stand here on my own behalf and on behalf of my predecessors to repent. We ask for your forgiveness,” Museveni prayed.

“We confess these sins, which have greatly hampered our national cohesion and delayed our political, social and economic transformation. We confess sins of idolatry and witchcraft which are rampant in our land. We confess sins of shedding innocent blood, sins of political hypocrisy, dishonesty, intrigue and betrayal,” Museveni said.

“Forgive us of sins of pride, tribalism and sectarianism; sins of laziness, indifference and irresponsibility; sins of corruption and bribery that have eroded our national resources; sins of sexual immorality, drunkenness and debauchery; sins of unforgiveness, bitterness, hatred and revenge; sins of injustice, oppression and exploitation; sins of rebellion, insubordination, strife and conflict,” Museveni prayed.

Next, the president dedicated Uganda to God.

“We want to dedicate this nation to you so that you will be our God and guide. We want Uganda to be known as a nation that fears God and as a nation whose foundations are firmly rooted in righteousness and justice to fulfill what the Bible says in Psalm 33:12: Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. A people you have chosen as your own,” Museveni prayed."

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/ugandan-president-repents-of-pers...

The right direction

2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32

Americans are basically

Americans are basically prideful to the point of stupid.
They will die in criminal wars.
They will accept absolute slave/police state oppression.

But will they humble themselves before the God who created every life support system in the universe?
NO!
"He's a fairy tale."
"The bible is bullshit".
"All religion is __________ fill in the blank".
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It costs nothing but pride to humble oneself before a gracious and all powerful God.