For what it's worth, I wouldn't have been able give him an exact numerical answer anyway.
I know these types of videos are usually edited to serve the agenda of the person making it. However, I was surprised to see more than one person think we are bombing Israel.
We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.
-C. S. Lewis
is worth paying attention to. either because they are apathetic or don't believe it has much affect on their daily lives. This is why sales on black friday are more important than what the feds do. They also seem uninterested in how much of their lives it truly does matter.
They are OK with a few minor things even if the list is extensive since most are just minor. They never look at the whole and add up to sum of lost liberty or its cost on them. Do I care about the regulations surrounding the type of toilet we are allowed to buy? On its own not much. I don't buy toilets regularly.
The really scary part is this apathy grew over the years to the point where trillion dollar bailouts and deficits and enless wars don't seem to register much.
Lots of deprogramming to break thru.
That's the truth brother....
*Wisconsin Constitution* Article I, Section 25 "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security,defense,hunting,recreation or any other law-abiding purpose"
By the way, how does Walmart help America? Unless of course you are on welfare, how does it help? To me, Walmart is the symbol of Corportism and/or the Communism that the elite are setting up. Coke or Pepsi is not a choice that helps America, and buying goods made in Pakistan or China helps no one but the elite. Anyone on this forum that thinks Walmart = Capitalism is high on Meth.
(This question is for all the people who dislike this video.)
Let me help clarify something for you... It is not the mission of businesses to "help America". Businesses exist to make money. That is their purpose. How they do that is up to them. Businesses are not obligated to unnecessarily hire people to be employees, nor are they obligated to pay taxes above and beyond what they can get away with. Sorry if this does not fit into your preferred view of things.
I never said it was their business to help America, but it certainly should be apart of their business model not to hurt America or her communities.
Did Walmart get to be where they are without the US government? Did they get to be on top of the retail business without lobbyists and perverting the system?
What about property rights?
What about NAFTA?
What about WTO?
How many times have they abused these systems to stay on top?
Please define what you mean by "hurt".
whether I like it or not.
very few people know what the heck it is I actually do.
in your world view, I am a parasite...
is that correct?
How do you view yourself? Since I only know you from your many hostile posts on the Daily Paul, it would be unfair of me to judge you by that measure alone.
I never met a person I didn't like... but not on the Internet.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I don't know what you do for a living either (I just assumed you were an air-conditioning installer/repairman who may have been exposed to too many chemicals...Not trying to pick a fight, just my honest impression).
and I do in fact know a thing or two about "chemicals" as you call them.
this place is about helping people to think and see things more clearly.
but you are not my enemy. it is the people sitting on the fence that are my enemy.
That father and son in the very last scene says it all. That is downright scary. This is the America that the Rockefellers wanted.
Mike Adams used to talk about people like this. America is filled with these brain-dead zombies. I notice it every time I go back home. People are so tuned out it is scary.
One last point, I know Adam was being nice and felt hope for that woman and her green-haired daughter, but what kind of example is she setting by taking her kid to Walmart with her rent money to buy Christmas lights? She had $500 in her wallet for Walmart???
The US is in sad and scary shape....
Beam me Up Scotty...No Life On Planet Earth...
for continuing to make people think. Most people in this country are so isolated from these wars that they go about life like the wars don't exist. huh, bombing? seriously.
Love this guy. He's got balls of titanium and he means no harm.
Let evolution progress...
Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.
"balls of titanium"
For the least.
I can only guesstimate the thickness of his paper files that dear FBI, CIA, DHS, ... you name it, have gathered on him already.
They must LOOOOOVE him.
"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.
"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius
We can at least be thankful to Adam, IMO, for trying to bring some content on serious topics and things ongoing, as opposed to the rest of the resulting Pavlovian conditioning this date has become in some places :
Walmart Black Friday Fight; 11/22/2012
I find eerie to have one's kids witness this (I wouldn't), but hey, one raises one's kids as one sees fit.
Adam is ok. He is proving a point. He isn't bashing the consumer, in fact I think he is pretty respectful to all the people in the video. On Black Friday, I couldn't help but wonder what my anscestors, who gave up their lives in Germany to come here in 1843, would think of us now. It's mindlessness. And if Adam,AT THE VERY LEAST,got just one of those people to start thinking about Obama's bombing or vet suicides...then he was successful at helping our movement. Consumers aren't evil. Mindlessness is. And when people wait in long lines,fight eachother,act like a mob of leeches,max out credit and debt for ANY product,it is pretty evident that they could care less about the things that really threaten the liberty of all of us.
It implies endless consuming in order to exist, to me. It implies that I am nothing but a blob endlessly absorbing all I come into contact with and getting bigger and fatter and needing yet more to consume in order to get even bigger and fatter and all the while being mindless of the cost it takes on everything around me in order that I may feed my need for more to consume. Who the Hell came up with that term anyway?
Interesting you personalize the "consumer" label. I view it from an economic and manufacturing perspective, but Wikipedia acknowledges your discomfort with the term:
"Economics and marketing
The consumer is the one who pays to consume the goods and services produced. As such, consumers play a vital role in the economic system of a nation. In the absence of effective consumer demand, producers would lack one of the key motivations to produce: to sell to consumers.
Typically, when business people and economists talk of consumers, they are talking about the person as consumer, an aggregated commodity item with little individuality other than that expressed in the decision to buy or not to buy. However, there is a trend in marketing to individualize the concept. Instead of generating broad demographic profiles and psycho-graphic profiles of market segments, marketers have started to engage in personalized marketing, permission marketing, and mass customization.
There is increasing backlash from the public over use of the label "consumer" rather than "customer", with many finding it offensive and derogatory. "
... why is shopping at Walmart a problem, they need goods, Walmart supplies said goods and the market determines price. The real problem is through force of government to use paper money instead of gold.
Walmart is actually given certain types of government assistance in ways that the local, mom and pop stores are not, essentially "helping" drive locals out of business.
Smaller, friendlier and easier to get in and out of, local stores don't need the erie surveillance atmosphere of Walmart either.
I miss the old, down town hub. Hopefully we will see a revival of it along with all of the other things we are now seeing revived, such as liberty.
Link to documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jazb24Q2s94
I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. The time to build is now.
Could you, or someone else who's watched the documentary, elaborate?
"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."
Sure, I get it Kokesh, 'Mericans know their brands but don't know anything about politics. It's important to point out the ignorance of the masses, but I see no reason to smear "consumerism" in the process. Ironically, this bias against "consumerism" (or shall we call it bourgeois culture?) is a product of exactly the cultural degradation and dumbing-down which Adam is lamenting...it's a bit of Marxoid nonsense that saturates the mainstream and apparently infects even libertarians.
So, I say, shop as much as you like. Buy that 3rd TV, and sit in front of it in your gigantic oversized chair while eating freeze-dried deep-fried mayo bites and take for granted this standard of living that would be inconceivable to most kings who ever lived...enjoy it, revel in it.
...and then at another time, read a book. The two are not mutually exclusive. There are plenty of hours in the day.
I'm not confident Kokesh should be identified as a strict Libertarian. He spouts a lot of stuff that I consider misguided and unrealistic. I don't consider him stupid, to be clear.
+1. Excellent points.
I'll only add, besides reading books :
stack on precious metals,
but also let us keep thinking for ourselves. We don't have much choice, there : this ugly era make these more important than ever.
Free men are those who understand the same Liberty and unite around it, but otherwise agree to disagree, sometimes, and reject any conditioning or mono-thinking.
its about how distressed/depressed people are right now about the state of their lives or environment, and how the public at large (I dont know how many people participate in Black Friday) attempts to drown out their sadness with mass consumerism (vs say paying off existing debt and going to the park with the family). They recoil from and ignore those things they do not like (the news), and educate themselves on worthless information they do (TV brands at Walmart) because "everyone else is doing it"...
The degree of ignorance in this video is shocking, and to me proves there is no hope left for America.. I mean imagine what it would take to get these people to stay educated on the issues themselves (which is what is would take to get this country turned around without SHTF)
You know nothing about Walmart. I don't have the time or energy to enlighten you here so please research it yourself.
...do enlighten us.
The problem isn't specifically that people shop at Walmart, the problem is that Walmart exists and is able to get corporate favoritism at the expense of the manufacturer. Because Walmart sells absolutely everything at "low, low prices" people forget that they get laws passed specifically for them, and that they help play a huge part in driving down wages here.
The goods they sell are all from jobs that were sent from here over to other nations, which ends up driving down wages here in this country for what little manufacturing we have left. They are the epitome of corporate favoritism and the people love it because they're not even aware that they're helping fund the very thing that is killing their jobs and driving down their wages, as they continue to spend money.
That's the problem. But it's a whole lot easier, I suppose, to say "the consumer." This need to use single words without proper definition is what causes people to put their protective walls up.
Hope that helps