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Shlomo Sand: Challenging notions of a Jewish People

Israeli Professor Shlomo Sand talks up the ideas of his new book, The Invention of the Jewish People, challenging the underlying logic of the State of Israel as a homeland for the Jewish People.

He argues those who claim to be of the Jewish People cannot claim a blood connection with the original Jewish inhabitants of the Holy Land, but converts along the way. His book was a best-seller in Israel for 19 weeks in 2009.

NOTE: This post is in no way an assault or to insult Israeli and/or Jewish DP subscribers but a lot of the time I see people on DP talk about the ZIONIST are the BAD GUYS we need to stop the ZIONIST they corrupt society, etc. with out us having a more nuance discussion on the topic because I feel some individuals try to put individuals, races and/or cultures in boxes and classify them as A or B when somethings are Ab or aB or maybe even C. That’s one thing I really like about Ron Paul though he isn’t afraid to make his opinion known to the public he puts things in context and provides nuance.

I'm gonna start posting long lectures when I can so people can broaden there understanding to show that’s there’s more to then just being being white man this, black man that, Asian man this, Hispanic man that, liberal this, conservative that, GOP this, libertarians that, etc. I know these titles we try or may what to put on others individuals allows us to find away to separate ourselves from each other but there’s always a deeper discussion to be had which I see most people either don’t take or have the time to have that type of discussion with there counterparts or most of the time offend others due to their delivery and the fact that they don’t possess the indepth knowledge on an issue from both perspectives they believe to have to truly talk to another individual on the opposite side of the discussion.

Hopefully this video is enlightening and I will be posting many more on a myriad of diverse niche topics.

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Here is an Overview of a 2012 Research Study by a John Hopkins

Professor, Eran Israeli-Elhaik, proving what Shlomo Sand and earlier research done by a former Zionist Jew, Arthur Koestler, that gives empirical facts to their statements. http://truthtellers.org/alerts/GeneticResearchConfirmsKhazar...
This biggest problem I see with those who call themselves Jews is, that they have been manipulated through their religion called Judaism, mainly by their secret Books of the Babylonian Talmud, in believing they are a superior race and the gentiles are virtually cattle (goy) to serve them. The name they use, Jew, is another misnomer, where they associate with the tribe of Judah, but the definition of 'Jew' means they are from the geographical area of Judea, which was never in historical record only occupied by the Isrealite/Hebrew people. Those so-called creation of a people, Palestinians, are originally dirived from the Biblical people, the Philistines, who never left the region, as well as others. Zionism, is a myth created by the evil man who claimed to be the true messiah, Sabbatei Zvi, and later his protege, Jacob Frank, another evil SOB who made the same claim. The Rothschilds, folloers of the Sabbatean/Frankists are the ones behind the eventual creation of the unbiblical creation of the state of Israel. This is proven by many sources, but is documented by the way the 'Balfour Declaration' is worded. If you research the lectures of Benjamin Freedman, a former Zionist covert to Christianity, who sat in cabinet meetings during Wilson and Roosevelts terms, he tells how the world wars were designed to create the Zionist state.

Conclusion of the study states:

"Because our study is the first to directly contrast the Rhineland and Khazarian Hypotheses, a caution is warranted in interpreting some of our results due to small sample sizes and availability of surrogate populations. To test the Khazarian Hypothesis, we used a crude model for the Khazar’s population structure.

"We conclude that the genome of European Jews is a tapestry of ancient populations including Judaized Khazars, Greco-Romans and Mesopotamian Jews, and Judeans and that their population structure was formed in the Caucasus and the banks of the Volga with roots stretching
to Canaan and the banks of the Jordan."

I recall during the campaign, one of the "talking heads"...

attacked Ron Paul, linking him to the publishing company for this book. The "head" never mentioned that this book was a best seller in Israel.

Zionism is a politics,

not a race. The politics of Zionism enabled a whole heap of Europeans to overrun Palestine.

I know I was referring to a

I know I was referring to a whole heap of discussion I see fellow DP subscribers have been having relation to not only politics but the economy, race, history, current events, etc. What I have issue with when I see some people debating these topics are that they allow their inner feeling to take hold over there decision making and begin to classify other individual, put other individuals and events in nice neat boxes ready for delivery and public consumption not understanding that there is more history involved there is more context and nuance needed so that all parties can better understand each other. Example, I was having a discussion a few weeks back with a gentleman after making certain claims about Obama as it relates to what he perceived as so many African Americans on welfare not knowing African Americans only makeup around 12% of the population and that White Americans receive statistically a lager portion of welfare benefits then any other race. Others made many other unfounded claims about voter fraud. So I provided public US government census statistics with linked sources with downloadable PDF|DOC|XLS.

Food Stamp Use By Race* (as of the 2010 FY)

Whites: 35% participation | 63.7% of US population

African Americans: 22% participation | 12.2% of US population

Hispanic: 10% participation | 16.3% of US population

Asian: 2% participation | 4.7% of US population

American Indian: 4% participation | 0.7% of US population

Unknown race: 19% participation | 0.2% of US population

*Sources: U.S. Department of Agriculture, U.S. Census

LINK: http://www.fns.usda.gov/ora/MENU/Published/snap/FILES/Partic...

Now i'm not an Obama apologist but individuals have to understand that you wont be taken seriously by others by blaming others for your own individual social and fiscal failures in life. This is why we constantly lose in debates and some feel that its the 47% fault without having a more deeper understanding of whats socially occurring around them. We make these statements because this may be the perception in our niche circles but it is not the reality and our counterparts will attempt to discredit not only us as individuals in the Liberty movement as they’ve tried to with Ron Paul to no availed do to his notably respected grasp of history but also the movement in general as a whole. This is not direct to you but for others that may read this post and this comment. READ and LISTEN, really read and listen carefully make sure you understand what your saying and your debating. Not just regurgitate perceived Liberty and shock jock talking points because individual debates are what makes the difference. Changing hearts and minds in your community are makes a difference and as soon as you get caught spout fallacy because it makes you feel good or allows you to justify your own personal feeling on a particular issue you will not only discredit yourself but also the movement you purport to represent.


Thank you for this PWA. One of the attractions of the Liberty Movement is chance to overcome PC by having honest discussions and seeing people first as individuals, not as a member of a tribe to be accepted or dismissed according to preconceived notions.


An observation

What you say about Whites being the largest recipients of welfare is true, but as your numbers point out, Blacks still make up a disproportionate percentage of welfare recipients in comparison to their percentage of the US population, so I think that's where the whole "Black monopoly on welfare" meme comes from. It's all in how one chooses to look at the numbers.

A signature used to be here!

True though the labels and

True though the labels and memes aren’t needed but again you see we're back to square one. Now if we as individuals can intellectually debate these issues without well this is what your doing and that is what i'm doing or this is what she's doing and this is what he's doing we can more better develop and provide concrete solutions. We need solution based discussions, I know people are so anxious to prove a point but tomorrow is coming, it will come everyday and it wont wait on anybody so we need solutions now. What can we do in our immediate communities now in the market to give individuals an alternative to government because once the government consumes them they will be used against the population because they now have something to protect. Police aren’t bad people bu they now have something to protect so they will internally justify their crimes against the population. I'm a newly elected office in my municipality and we are working on banning the police department and union from solicitation for funds and from accepting donations on the bases of indirect coercion. The reason because you see what private corporations have done in New York instead of the police being equally accountable to each citizen through taxation they are now receiving an exorbitant about of funds from outside sources with is leading them to behave in the manner in which they are behaving now. From a fiscal standpoint the tax payer in now becoming the minority. If you cant fund me I'll find and answer to someone else who will.

Again no labeling, no name calling, no blaming, just quick and solid solution to fix a problem. We can all do this in our communities. Look at one small niche problem in your community again no labeling, no name calling, no blaming, no memes just a viable solution. If you don't have the authority present your case to the public and run for office.