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New Jersey professor angrily claims Stalin killed nobody

New Jersey professor angrily claims Stalin killed nobody (Video)

http://youtu.be/hRPTZF5zSLQ

Hear "the actual ex-Soviet" Yuri N. Maltsev's take on the event here.



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This book, written by 4 Historians (who during the Cold War were self admitted socialist and Russian sympathizers), lay out the case against Communism ... fact by fact by fact. Stalin was a mass murderer.

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Well, yeah...

I didn't watch the video, but I guess you could say that.
Did Stalin actually pull any triggers himself, stab anyone, or choke anyone out? Doubt it. Like Charles Manson, He DID give the orders that were carried out by his minions.

We only believe what the news

We only believe what the news media tells us to believe. I have become very cynical over the years -- because of the known propaganda fed to us I question everything reported by the MSM and only accept it with a grain of salt. For example: Lincoln is portrayed as an American hero in all of our history books when in fact he over threw the US Constitution and was responsible for the deaths of over 600,000 American troops -- go figure...

"history is a set of lies agreed upon."

today it's "terrorism" but yesterday it was the cold war.

there are still seas of widely accepted and disseminated propaganda about wwi, wwii, gulf wars, and even iraq/afganistan. you'll hear it peddled on television and it's pumped into your children's ears incessantly. this is how governments get you to do their bidding. lies and manipulation. and it's usually so subtle it's almost indiscernible. even when academia uncovers these lies, it just doesn't seem to sink into public knowledge.

now, this guy Furr may be a damned lunatic.. and he may not. but if he was even half right, how many people here would know? very few i imagine.

the power of propaganda not be underestimated.

Another Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUg8r1EJfXs&feature=watch-vrec

Mr. Furr more clearly defining his postions on more familiar territory to him.

He states he is not defending Stalin but this guy is indeed a communist imo.

donvino

This is a perfect example of the behavior of a person losing...

an argument. When emotion drives your responses rather than reason, it's time to slow down and collect one's self - not act like an ass.

Question...

WHY... WHY do people frame the classic argument "Socialism/Communism/Fascism vs. Capitalism?" WHY?!?!?!?!?! Why is it never framed "Central Government Planning vs. Liberty?" Or better yet, "Collectivism vs. Individualism?"Seems to me, the later two COMPLETELY NEUTER a collectivist's INEVITABLE accusation: "well, yeah, but capitalism kills thousands too!"

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

Because

Many people tend to categorize information in little imaginary boxes to compare and contrast against other imaginary little boxes and deem these boxes "isms".

That sort of thought process, while generally effective and efficient, oftentimes makes one lose sight of the finer details of a given piece of information.

It all boils down to laziness IMO.

Although, I've seen a few people frame the debate as "collectivism versus individualism", but not often enough.

A signature used to be here!

"...and you should have it too."

Of all the whoppers... this was a big 'un too.

America IS a socialist nation. And it is SPECIFICALLY THIS FACT... that has given us ANY CONCEIVABLE "low standard of living."

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

It's funny...

when I hear Americans praising Socialism, yet bashing the current system, I ask them what they think a Socialist US would look like.

It's ALWAYS the same answer: nobody is poor, the rich get "what's coming to them" (what, exactly?), and everyone loves everyone else. When I point out that many of the things they advocate are the very things that cause them to complain in the first place...they turn into a deer in the headlights.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to get their wheels turning. Then again, I've never been good when it comes to those who "think with their heart rather than their mind", to put it gently.

A signature used to be here!

Mao is still the greatest mass murderer.

Ranks ahead of Adolph and Joe.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

Stalin:

1 Stalin Order No. 270/1941
2 Stalin's Loyal Executioner - http://www.hoover.org/publications/books/8348
3 Stalin's War against his own troops - http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/Teplyakov.html
4 Stalin executed US Troops - Yeltsin 1992 - http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-11-12/news/1992317164_...

donvino

Please answer the following two questions

1) When you say Communism kills, are you also saying that Capilatism doesn't kill?

2) Is it reasonable to say, many millions of people around the world have been killed by Capitalists?

Keep in mind that most of the

Keep in mind that most of the people you would likely refer to as capitalists who are guilty of such offenses are generally no such, but statists and fascists. Rule of Acquisition #34 - Peace is good for business.

Not pure capitalism.

A free-market economy is based entirely on the principle of free, non-coercive exchange. So, no on both.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

No one here is denying that

But to say the communists never did, is absurd. If we did it/do it, how much more did they do it when their entire form of govt is based on govt control, which can only be acquired through force, fear, and total control of its people. Don't forget about all the countries they expanded into by force just like us. They converted people into communism by force like we convert people into tyrannical democracies.

I find this idiot offensive. I guess he forgot about Mao

My family has been running away from socialism and the death it has brought for 2 generations. My grandparents and family ran from China cause Moa was killing off anyone who owned a business. They fled to North Vietnam. They picked themselves back and started a new business (rice mill) only to have to once again flee as the communists were murdering business owners....again.

I find this guy completely offensive. I want him to look my mother in the eye and try to tell her that socialism hasn't killed anyone. I guess the families of the 50-100 million people Moa murdered are all liars according to this guy. Moa killed so many, people can only speculate as to the numbers. No one even really knows. Even Moa didn't even know how many he ordered to their death.

Honestly if this guy was in front of me right now, i am not sure i could restrain myself from knocking him out.

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Money Bomb for Mr. Professor and colleagues alike ?

Money Bomb to help relocate Mr. Professor, and colleagues alike, to North Korea PERMANENTLY :

Who's in with me ?

Note : I insist on permanently.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I'd buy that for a dollar!

GREAT idea! ; )

What would the Founders do?

Wow.

I know it's beneath me, but I just want to punch this POS in the f*cking FACE.

So Stalin didn't whack 20,000 + Polish officers either? Nevermind his own civilians by the truckload? And all of those poor bastards in the satellite countries he seized?

Ridiculous. This clown is totally wack, disingenuous, intellectually bankrupt, irresponsible, and just plain in need of a good ol' fashioned Indiana *ss whoopin'.

(And what an audience of imbeciles: laughing just because he said "B*llsh*t!" Wooo! Har har har ....)

Good grief. It's this sorta stuff that makes me realize how far we have to go....

What would the Founders do?

It's scary to think that we have...

...professors like this in this country. He really should move to North Korea; he'd love it there!

Stalin and his friend the belief in authority

Even though he shares greatly in the responsibility of the killings that did happen, most likely thousands of "normal" people just "doing their jobs" in the army, spies or police did the killing, because they believed in the idea that you can be a robot and escape responsibility for your actions, called statism or the authority fallacy. The belief in the validity of "authority" is what enables this to happen.

Otherwise, how can one explain why millions of ordinary people could be controlled by a ruthless few psychos? If we can give up the supposed comfort of looking to some authority to "save us", the most damage psychopathic people can do is what they can do with their own two hands. They would no longer have the safety of separation from the act and the pretense of "government" to hide behind, which it seems just excuses evil acts for most people. Things government does -- ack! there I go attributing physical acts of human beings to that mythical ethereal object of government! -- or rather things people do while pretending to be government, are just pinned on the label government, and voila!, they are guilt free, not to mention, performing "public service for the greater good". It's amazing how the "greater good" can be made up of millions of people having things less good. The "greater" good is always the one you are not a part of, it seems.

I do believe someone has been reading up on his Larken Rose

I'm slowly working through "The Most Dangerous Superstition" (I know it's not a long book at all, but I guess I just like to savour it). He really makes you take a step back and get things into perspective, seeing things perhaps from an angle you have never seen them before. Definitely a recommended read, and I haven't even finished it yet.

There is a great book called

There is a great book called Political Ponerology
http://www.amazon.com/Political-Ponerology-Science-Adjusted-....

It explains in detail how a society is lulled to sleep during the prosperous and good times and how the psychopaths gain footholds in the power centers of the society. While the people are drunk on peace and prosperity, the psychopaths climb the ranks. About 5% of the population are born psychopaths. Others acquire the tendencies from the psychopaths as it becomes increasingly acceptable once the true psychopaths are in power.

So, this sort of system is cyclical in a society, according to what I gathered from the book. Averting being captured by psychopaths requires vigilance and resistance from a society - something that is difficult in a generation that has not suffered such a fate during their lifetime.

Plain and simple

this guy is an idiot.

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Yuri Maltsev's reciting of Stalin's quote

at the end sums it up really well.

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I was at this debate

This guy was a commie and an idiot. Although quite hilarious, 3/4 of the audience was laughing at him a lot of the time because he was so dumb. What scares me is that some people were actually cheering...

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

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Great "example" for you

Now you know what (some) supposedly mature and knowledgeable men, in their cozy little lives, are "intellectually" and "morally" capable of, young lady.

Always remember that.

It will serve you, I promise.

Yup.

"La valeur n'attend pas le nombre des annees."

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Are you a student there?

If so, what year? I was wondering if you know my grandson.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Nope

I'm in high school. But the debate was open to the public so I was able to go.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien