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Indefinite detention amdt to be voted on today or tmrw

The Senate will debate and possibly vote today or tomorrow on Senator Feinstein's amendment that would prohibit indefinite detention of US citizens and permanent lawful residents.

Here's Rand speaking in support of the amendment:

Please call or email your Senators now and urge them to support the Feinstein amendment on indefinite detention (Amendment #3018 to the NDAA bill).

You can find your Senators' phone numbers and emails here:

Here is the text of the amendment:

The amendment applies to US citizens and lawful permanent residents only. Feinstein said she supports applying it to all persons but there is not enough support to get that passed.


Baucus (MT)
Collins (ME)
Coons (DE)
DeMint (SC)
Gillibrand (NY)
Heller (NV)
Johnson (SD)
Kirk (IL)
Lautenberg (NJ)
Lee (UT)
Paul (KY)
Sanders (VT)
Tester (MT)
Whitehouse (RI)

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Call your Senators

Debate will happen today with a vote later today or tomorrow.

The amendment received 45 votes in 2011 and there are already 3 new supporters. This amendment needs 50 votes to pass.

Find your Senators' contact info here:

I'm glad to see Rand Paul

I'm glad to see Rand Paul standing up for the right to due process.

and Obama is going to sign

and Obama is going to sign this? LOL...yeah right.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

It's an amendment to the NDAA bill

Obama will not veto a NDAA bill that provides funding for the military.

The tough part is getting the majority of Senators to vote for the amendment.

Lindsey Graham:

"In every war, Americans have joined the enemy forces. In every other war when they do so that is considered an act of war, not a common crime," said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a former military lawyer who called Feinstein's amendment a "disaster."

"What they're trying to do is say if you can find an American who is trying to help Al Qaeda, you can't hold them for military interrogation to find out what they're up to," Graham said. "You have to read them their rights and treat it as a common crime ... I think it will make us less safe."

Graham suggested a major problem with shielding Americans from the military system is that it would become an enticement for Al Qaeda to use citizens to carry out attacks, on the theory that they could get lawyers before divulging details to military interrogators.

"I think what you would actually be doing is actually encouraging the enemy to find American citizens," he said. "You would make an American operative much more valuable to Al Qaeda."


On that point, at least, Graham agreed. "I think I won't live to see the situation where radical Islamists are not threatening the United States," he told The Huffington Post. "I think one day they will be defeated, but it's not going to happen any time soon."

Graham also said the authority that allows for indefinite detention should stand until that time.


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Swing Low

Senator. Swing low.

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Senate will be debating

the amendment tomorrow (Thursday, 11/29) with a vote probably tomorrow or Friday.

Please call or email your Senators and urge them to support the Feinstein amendment on indefinite detention. The technical name is Amendment #3018 to S. 3254.

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tsai3904, thank you for this info.

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