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NDAA 2013, Rand won?

I've been seeing a couple tweets throughout the day, first saying that Rand was speaking on the house floor in defense of the right of Americans to a trial, then a second tweet saying that the provision has been added to the 2013 NDAA specifically saying that Americans can not be held without trial.

I haven't been able to google any verification. Anybody else hear about this?



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It is a farce.

Had they been serious, they would have STRICKEN 1021. As the amendment stands, it is more words, more confusion, and vague at best. It has done nothing to preserve the Constitution, the rights of all people here and abroad, let alone Amercians that may be outside of our borders.

Is it a step closer? No. It is political rhetoric, designed to have sheeple believe their politicians are working for their frn's.

Enforce the Constitution. Plain and simple. Otherwise it is treason.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I Wish People Would See...

...there are a few things everyone disagrees with Rand on, yet they do not see that he is with us way over 90%...

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Rands speech thread

Rands speech thread http://www.dailypaul.com/264604/rand-pauls-senate-right-to-t...

"You must be frank with the world; frankness is the child of honesty and courage...Never do anything wrong to make a friend or keep one...Above all do not appear to others what you are not" - Robert E. Lee, CSA

wow

Crazy. When did our country come to this? Makes me sad and angry they would even need a vote on this issue. Government has lost their minds

Everyone not a cosponsor should be tried for high treason.

At least contact your senators and let them have an earful!
http://www.dailypaul.com/264568/indefinite-detention-amendme...

And since they're chomping at the bit to take away our trial by jury, who thinks they should receive trial by jury for their high treason?

Cosponsors: (all of 14 Good Guys)

Baucus (MT)
Collins (ME)
Coons (DE)
DeMint (SC)
Gillibrand (NY)
Heller (NV)
Johnson (SD)
Kirk (IL)
Lautenberg (NJ)
Lee (UT)
Paul (KY)
Sanders (VT)
Tester (MT)
Whitehouse (RI)

Disagree.

Good guys would would not stoop to political rhetoric for political gain. 1021 needs to be STRICKEN, not amended. See my post above.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Just unbelievable! It's

Just unbelievable! It's almost 2013, and here we have an American Senator fighting for one of the most basic, fundamental rights all human beings should have - a trial by jury.

What the hell is this? 1215 redux?

Watching Rand Paul was like hearing a father argue over the fact that it's a good thing to teach your children the alphabet.

I just cannot believe the times we are living in. Thank you, Rand, but you forgot to mention one thing...this is a crock of horse crap. How in the world did we get to this point?

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

we

got to this point because of an attempted fascistic takeover on 911. It was a well organized coup of foreign, and domestic policy. 911 is the rotten core, expose that and the house of cards will crumble.

Rand Paul's Right-to-Trial speech 11/28/2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdMU4N-Xo2E&feature=youtu.be

"You must be frank with the world; frankness is the child of honesty and courage...Never do anything wrong to make a friend or keep one...Above all do not appear to others what you are not" - Robert E. Lee, CSA

You

should post this...will easy make front page.

Thread for video here -->

Thread for video here --> http://www.dailypaul.com/264604/rand-pauls-senate-right-to-t...

"You must be frank with the world; frankness is the child of honesty and courage...Never do anything wrong to make a friend or keep one...Above all do not appear to others what you are not" - Robert E. Lee, CSA

Admins

Please front page this Senate floor speech by Rand Paul.

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Freedom - Peace - Prosperity

Good luck with that...

I don't think they like Rand. I think 9/11 stuff has more of a chance of getting front page exposure.

I'm sure Karl Rove and Bill

I'm sure Karl Rove and Bill Kristol both support the anti-Rand policy.

OUTSTANDING SPEECH

CSA1861, thank you for posting this.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

If it doesn't encompass all human beings

it isn't enough.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Between a rock and a hard place.

rp4pres, you are correct, there is absolutely no dispute.

With no one else willing to stand, there are no options. Rand spoke. There is little support. I hope that his speech will haunt those in that room who listened.

Local, state, we are working very hard.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

You are a "purist" like myself so I know that you'll weigh

things out Constitutionally, at least that's all I've ever seen you do, to date. I know these things are no light matter for you.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.