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Gargantuan black hole baffles scientists

Gargantuan black hole baffles scientists

A hunt for supermassive black holes reveals a monstrous one at the heart of galaxy NGC 1277, which may force theorists to rethink their understanding of black holes.

By Amina Khan, Los Angeles Times
November 28, 2012, 6:11 p.m.

Astronomers on the hunt for supermassive black holes have discovered one so monstrous that its mass dominates the central hub of its galaxy in a way that defies scientists' expectations about how typical black holes behave.

Described in Thursday's edition of the journal Nature, the black hole may push theorists to revamp their ideas of how these mysterious structures grow and evolve.

Astrophysicists said they were scratching their heads at how thoroughly this gargantuan black hole — seated in the galaxy NGC 1277, about 220 million light-years away — hogs its galactic bed.

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I thought this was a joke

about the Federal Reserve.

I believe in the freedom to be what we choose to be.

What do we REALLY know?

Why are astronomers constantly having to "revamp" their concepts and assertions of physical phenomenon every time they find something that is not congruent with their underlying theories?

Maybe their underlying theories are flat out wrong.

I have always had problems with Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, and, specifically, his explanation of black holes. I also do not subscribe to the "nuclear fusion furnace" model of stars.

I find myself eagerly studying the Electric Theory of the Universe. This does not totally discount cosmic gravitational influences but shifts more emphasis onto electrical and plasma phenomena.

I challenge all who are genuinely curious about "Black Holes, General Relativity and Newtonian Gravitation" to listen to yesterday's podcast from Thunderbolts.info. This 51-minute "powerpoint" podcast is geared toward scientists and precocious non-scientists alike, with technical and general descriptions of observed phenomena and written transcript for better comprehension.


If this presentation proves to be too much techno-babble, have a look at the Thunderbolts YouTube channel and look at some of the clips they have available which apply the electric model to comets and sunspots and other "understood" phenomenon.

The perspective I've gained from the Thunderbolts team in the last six years has renewed my love of physical sciences and astronomy as well as generating a new-found interest in comparative mythology ... yeah, this really is a paradigm-shifting concept these gents present.

Hope this piques the interest of some readers.

The Mayans, Sumerians and (I believe) ancient Indians...

knew about this black hole. The December 21, 2001 Winter Solstice will be the first time in 26,000 the earth will be in direct alignment with this black hole. The Mayans apparently believed the sun will act as an "amplifier" for some form of energic interaction with this black hole, resulting in a temporary expansion of world consciousness.

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"[...]Supermassive black holes typically account for just 0.1% of the mass in a galaxy's stellar bulge, the cluster of older stars huddled around the center. This particular black hole, by contrast, takes up 59% of that central mass, shattering the previous record of 11%[...]"

Man. THAT is one BIG glutonous dude.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

They should name it "Washington D.C.".

It sucks all the light......ah, heck, it just sucks.

The Reason for Black Holes is Simple

Black Holes are quite simply the garbage disposals of the Universe. Over time, these monster black holes will become more and more prolific, swallowing other monster black holes, until at some point there is only one black hole left. It will then implode on itself containing the whole universe into one small orb, which will then explode, Big Bang, and start the whole universe all over again.
Pretty simple way to explain it all in my thinking.

I see them as recycling points and the Universe as a giant

multi-paralleled and interconnected wiffle ball with the black holes drawing matter in and spewing it out into another layered universe.

As a side, even as I know that it's in our nature as human beings to be curious, I think anyone thinking they can actually figure out what's out there from this little spec of nothing.. Well, it's kind of like ants, trying to figure out what the earth is. We just aren't built with the brain capacity to understand something as complex as the Universe.

We have such a long way to go, so much so, that I don't think we'll ever get there. I think it's hubris to believe you can.

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That is exactly what I think.

That is exactly what I think. I have thought that was the answer for the past 10 years. Not sure why scientist are scratching their head? They are probably trying to come up with a formula to describe the obvious... back to the drawing board!

Right On !

This makes total sense to me.

I've always thought that the entire universe "breathes".

Big Bang- then breathes out... then breathes in until everything implodes... Bang!

Enlarging black holes would be the mechanism in a local area that facilitates the collapse.

I think there's a Hindu belief (or story) that says this has happened countless times before, and will continue happening.

Anyway, it's cool to know someone else thinks about this subject in a similar way ;-)

Too bad

They didn't discover this Gargantuan Black Hole months ago... Muse could have made a song with that title and used it in the latest Twilight movie...

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