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ron paul went up against then speaker grinch and the ENTIRE Texas republican delegation(39 in all i think) and they all endorsed rons primary opponent. all of them!! not one elected republican in the state of Texas stood with ron in that particular house race.
It didnt matter.
Ron called the "ole fast ball" from Alvin Texas, also known as Nolan Ryan and he endorsed Ron at the last minute and told Texans in our district the truth. That YES Ron was running! The est lied and said he wasnt!
So.
They ignored ron. acted like he wasnt even running for office.lol
See. Ron is real conservative, he refused to take out ads on the raido telling of his candidacy. He wouldnt give the media beast one thin dime of our hard earned money we gave him because he views the media as a conflict of interest!
So the people took to the streets and Nolan endorsed Ron and together they played CLEAN ball, and ron WON with more of the vote spending LESS money then the election prior!!lol!

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

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I was more refering to his endorsement...

...of Gingrich.

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Yes.

I'm sure though that your spin-o-cycle will get started up for a round of bullshit, in a few moments.

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I respect you for your views...

...but as the quote by Daniel Moynihan goes,“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Ron Paul endorsed neo-cons that if he had endorsed in the present probably would have disenfranchised people like you. So maybe you would like to clarify what, "Playing ball" means.

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Usually when someone starts out with something like that

it's the opposite of what they really mean, but whatever.

Playing ball is compromising your principles to get something in return. Like frothy does.

Dr.Paul forms coalitions and works with people.

I don't think Dr.Paul is perfect but he meets my Liberty threshold by a wide margin. Rand however is about 65% whereas Dr.Paul is about 90-95%. Unless Rand picks up the pace, I won't be voting for him.

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How Was Endorsing Gingrich...

..."forming a coalition"? I would further argue that endorsements have nothing to do with ones principles. If you want to debate principles give me a list of bills Rand Paul voted for that are in contradiction with Ron Paul.

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Show me where he endorsed Gingrich.

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Maybe some other time, I'm sure we'll have another shot. Maybe you should go to votesmart and read everyone of his bills. Have you done that?

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here you go...

...whole article on it. http://www.dailypaul.com/240662/ron-has-endorsed-the-establi...

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If that is true, because I'm having problems finding it anywhere

The only link to it is 404'd.

But let's say it's true..

All I can say is Newt is smart and he has fooled a lot of people, even Dr.Paul isn't immune to something like that.. I just happen to not have as much of a problem in that area as he might.

:)

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

I realize I am but a lone annoying voice...

but understand this:

I will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, FOR ANY REASON, EVER support, "get behind," endorse, contribute to, work for, VOTE FOR...

Rand "playin' the game" Paul.

EVER!

Brother Winston Smith

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Brother Winston Is Not Your Real Name...

...therefore I can not hold you to your word.

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And what would knowing his real name do to give you proof.

Would you know how he voted either way?

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I'm J/K about his name...

...I bet he will support Rand though.

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Do you make it a habit of pretending that you know how a person

will vote? If the guy says he won't, the non-delusional approach would be to take him at his word.

I'm telling you too, do you think you know different about me as well?

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You Are Misquoting...

I said I would "bet", I did not say "I know". Big difference...

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Well sure but not in the spirit in which this conversation

has fully played out.. It started with you arrogantly stating that we WILL fall in line.

I'm conveying that I will not and that I don't think you should take that position in this case. I hate to use this cliche but herding L/libertarians and I mean real L/l's is like herding cats. :)

The ONLY reason many of us got behind Dr.Paul was because of his message and we trusted that he'd honestly try and he honestly believed in what he was stating.. We could tell this by his devotion all of these years.

I know that there will come a time when someone won't have a record that we can look at, so we have to go with our intuition based on his words and actions.

In Rands case, he's more of a moderate than his father.. to me that's not appealing. I feel that if I accept less, I will get less and this is to important to me to take less.

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Ok...

...maybe I'm wrong. I do however think that in the next three years Rand will prove himself a lot more.

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Maybe he will, I'm hoping so.

Believe it or not.

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Cart before the horse!

If the liberty movement, those who know, understand, and fight for all that is freedom and sound money, the rule of law, government limited to the meaning constitutional oaths, non-interventionism...

... if those principles and those patriots do not become the core of the new GOP, then you are whistling in the wind! Worse, you will simply be giving the enemy, well versed in the dangerous game of political chess as you have just seen, a rallying cry and a simple target on which to focus for the next four years.

Any liberty candidate must of necessity emerge from the ranks of the grassroots who will have become the bulk of the party needed to elect!

If such is truly the case by 2015, then you might even see the masses, cured of blindness, cursing the FED, weeping from war, stricken with poverty, rise up and elect an 80 year old patriot of all patriots, the champion of the constitution, after all!

Raising up a standard with a man's picture attracts arrows, but raising up a standard which announces truth attracts patriots and soldiers for freedom!

America is truly twisting in the throes of agony, yet blind to her disease! She needs to understand the cause for this danger.

May the Lord enable such, and keep us all in these tumultuous times!

PS: Ron Paul 2016... Get use to it!

Actually...

I don't think Rand "playin' the game" Paul would approve of you criticizing the leftist, chickenhawking, Constitution-SHREDDING, ANTI-America, ANTI-Christian, republican HE, HIMSELF ENDORSED.

Brother Winston Smith

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I Won't...

...get into it with you until you answer my last question on the other post. Still waiting.......

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Sure.

Restate the question.

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"How did Rand [playin' the game] Paul lie?"

Simple:

Claim 1.
Rand claims to support Constitutional Liberty.

Claim 2.
Rand claims to support leftist, chickenhawking, Constitution-smashing, Anti-America, Anti-God republicans. Namely Mitt Romney.

See? Both claims CANNOT simultaneously exist.

As opposed to RON Paul... who REJECTED leftist, chickenhawking, Constitution-smashing, Anti-America, Anti-God republicans. Namely Mitt Romney.

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

You will stand by your statement of...

...Newt Gingrich not being a "leftist, chickenhawking, Constitution-smashing, Anti-America, Anti-God republican"????

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In fake Libertarianism

nothing is impossible!!!

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You Are Not Answering My Question...

...I asked you to give me enough of a list on his voting record that is deserving of the bashing you are giving him.

I didn't care for Gary Johnson and I gave reason for it....

http://www.dailypaul.com/261617/who-is-gary-johnson-the-good...

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Sure. I'll follow you and your REDIRECTION.

So, now that the first question has been ANSWERED, let's move on to your REQUEST (not a question)...

Amnesty (disguised as "pathway" or whatever other similar euphemisms). Amnesty of millions of criminal, ethnocentric illegal aliens... marks the BIGGEST BLOW to JUSTICE, Constitutional Law and Liberty in decades and decades.

Or:

The CAMPAIGN-DESIGNED "legislation" - Amendment that strips UNCONSTITUTIONAL "aid" to our "enemies." This Amendment WAS DESIGNED TO CAMPAIGN against democrats. REPUBLICANS Kyl and Portman (both LEFTISTS LAUGHABLY, on the Deficit Reduction Panel) BOTH VOTED WITH THE DEMOCRATS. Rand DIDN'T SAY BOO. He never shot an ad illustrating this, while shooting ads illustrating the DEMOCRATS who voted no. He NEVER criticized (to my knowledge) Portman in Ohio (critical state), while criticizing DEMOCRATS!

Brother Winston Smith

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Are You Seriously Saying This Is The Worst You Can Dig Up On Him

Come-on...

1. Rand is not for amnesty. If you can give me a link with him saying that he wants to give citizenship to the illegals I will stand corrected. For all we know his plan could simply be making sure that no illegals can get a job. What we do know is that his plan will not put millions of illegal immigrants on a bus and send them home.

2. Did the democrats' opponent support it? if they did it would have been hypocritical. Portman and Kyl were not up for reelection so why should he run ads against them?

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Looks, sounds and feels...

republican.

The only thing that's missing is the "This time, it'll be different!"

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.