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Rand Paul Smashes the NDAA...Like A BOSS!

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Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul threatened again Wednesday to filibuster the National Defense Authorization Act unless the Senate votes on an amendment guaranteeing the right to trial by jury for American citizens accused of terrorism.

"In fact, I'm appalled that anyone would think that we could arrest anyone in our country without charging them and giving them a right to a trial," Paul said in a speech on the Senate floor.

The controversy stems from a provision critics have interpreted as allowing the indefinite detention of terrorism suspects. Its supporters say it only applies to those who have waged war against the United States.

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Rand Paul 2016

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Is there...

anyone in the room listening to him...probably not.

Great speech, to bad theres not more like him and his Pa.

Ron Paul 20_ _!

good speech but

amash says it's meaningless.

wall street journal says it's naive.

and at LRC: govt can still black bag anybody
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/127446.html

so why is rand claiming victory?

out of the gate i would be VERY VERY VERY skeptical of anything feinstein has written.

Another speech... Just like Obama...

"sound and fury, signifying... NOTHING!!!"

Wake up, your STILL slaves, debt, ideological and otherwise... But, then again, that is the whole point of this system your obedience keeps propping up, and eviscerating others... and eventually, even you...

Thin milk in the pulpit!

I admire his fortitude and his urgency, but he has missed THE major point:

He should shout from the top of his voice that this law they propose is ULTRA VIRAS... it is without the power to be a law. It is in fact NO LAW! It is the duty, said the court many years ago, of the citizen to disregard such attempts at law! As a Senator of that chamber he therefore calls on the people to disregard the law as no law, and remember such in all cases which come before the people.

WHY?

These rights were not given by men! They are of God Almighty!

As such NO MAN can lawfully take them. Man can only broach them outside of law, unlawfully, criminally!

Each and every one of these Senators who vote for such vileness are themselves in violation of their oath! As oath breakers they are outside the protection of the law, and under the hand of justice! So doing they become criminals who seek to enslave the people. Their acts are in defiance of the God of Nature and Nature's God.

Justice demands a hearing over their actions. They are without defense!

History will forget all the subtle arguments he might otherwise raise: such as the sad outcomes of lost freedom, the long tradition of men recognizing these rights, or the unfortunate king whose loss in battle signaled their recognition.

Instead, Senator Paul, by shouting the real truth of this crime, will be remembered by history for exposing these criminals, at a time when history also records the death throes of a once free nation.

Pray tell...

...if your god gave Americans the right to trial by jury, why does he hate billions of people in so many other nations? Rights exist where they exist because they have been won from powers that would withhold them and are upheld by the law and the true power of the multitude. Don't be fooled. Rights can and have been taken away and are denied to deserving people every day, and your god doesn't do anything to stop it. It is up to us.

So many of you still think your vote matters...

not only that, you think that the person elected has control over our government. Amazing how quickly some forget and how blind people can be. If you guys are waiting around until 2016 for your next chance to be free...you still don't understand what freedom is.

strong signature to post

strong signature to post content ratio, bud.

if enough people become awake, the govt WILL change accordingly.

Rand

I think many of us get irritated with Rand because he's not a purist like his dad. But it is those areas of compromise that almost give him a chance at actually being accepted by the mainstream of the GOP.

I wish he were an exact clone of Ron Paul, but on the issues that really matter, he comes very close. He embraces the overall ideas of limited government, Austrian economics, and liberty -- and he could have a real shot at the White House.

If he keeps addressing issues like this, he'd be an ideal candidate for 2016.

good job Rand!

I saw this yesterday (the first video you posted), but this is good for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

There is another good video from the other day that was uploaded by Randpac that I don't think was posted here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pUVxgAdk6w

"We're not governed by saints or angels, that's why we have laws and rules that restrains what the government can do. That's why we have laws that protect you and say you're innocent until proven guilty, that's why we have laws that say you should have a trial before a judge and a jury of your peers before you're sent off to some prison indefinitely."

Go Rand Go!!

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all the libs on this site hate the NDAA but not ONE will come on a rand thread and thank him for the hard work hes done.

NOT ONE!
notice Granger, LL and compromise, mmj ministry- and u know the rest...
the GJ creeps~
never a peep from them when it comes to rand, rand could arrest obama and they would still say "he endorsed romney and rnad stinks!"!!!... these types will only vote for other liberal democrats, never for a liberty republican.
see what im getting at??
Ive been noticing everytime rand stands up to these jerks in the senate, not one of the libs here at the DP say anything posiive about rand... but when he endorsed romney- they still havent let it go and it was months ago and romney LOST!lol they still talk about the endorsement- even though romney lost!! i couldnt make this stuff up!!lol
I find it amusing as well as pathetic after all Ron did to teach them, The free education they all received from Ron, and they STILL haven't learned what they need to do.
and now they want to call it the "liberty movement" with out protection of life!!lolol
we wont let that happen, will we granger? they will not be allowed to remake pauls message into a prochoice message, will they!
they will never see this post because they hate rand and will never be here to read any thread that is about rand!!!lol
so feel free to speak your mind!!
;)

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I voted for GJ

and i will vote for Rand Paul if he runs in 2016. I'm very Conservative and i did not like it when Rand endorsed Romney and i still do not like it but i also understand the guy is doing what he has to do to position himself. That said, i would vote for ANYTHING over a Neocon fraud like Mitt Romney......

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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romney, and i did not vote for him, but romney was the most cnservstive
on the stage.
what bothers me is tht no one down pulled obama, only romney.
obama PROVED what he was into.
romney had not done anything close to obama yet the bashers here were after romney and NOT obama.
that spoke volumes to me.

many here voted for obama.
that to me is more detestable then voting for romney.
they knew what they would get with obama but romney had not proved himself to be anything yet. people went by what they heard or what they thought but no one here can say with out a doubt romney would be worse then obama when obama has all ready proven himself a fraud, romney has not- YET!
see what im saying??

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I dont care if they voted for Obama

Romney proved without a doubt he was not going to change anything and would continue the same old garbage. Not sure what election you watched but if you were watching the same one i was he proved himself to be like Obama and then some. For me he was a bigger threat than Obama because if he got in we would have to wait 8 long years for another shot. Fact is you couldn't slide a credit card between the two so no, i do not see what your saying...not at all! The fraud in the primaries were a very good indicator on how he would lead this country and his state run healthcare program along with his agreement with the Patriot Act and NDAA, bailouts, you name it he was on the same page as Obama on just about every issue!

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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if you had to vote between obama or romney who would you vote for?

romney was more conservative then obama.
a real conservative would have voted for romney over obama unless they wrote a more conservative candidate then romney- in.

gairie johnson was NEVER a choice for a real conservative and ceertainly no ron paul supporter should have endorsed him.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I would vote for neither

because neither one of them were conservative at all. They were twins as far as i was concerned. My vote for Johnson was simply a protest vote against the right/left establishment dictating our choices to us. I knew Johnson wouldn't win and i really didn't know where Johnson stood on many issues and i didn't care as it really did not matter to me as he couldn't win anyway.
Funny you mention Johnson wasn't a choice for a real conservative and certainly no Ron Paul supporter yet Ron Paul never had anything bad to say about him which wasn't the case for Romney so i don't know where you get your figures...i suspect you just pull them out of your hat as you go....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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Ron Paul says nice things about EVERYONE WHEN "ASKED!". always has.
It is his actions that speak volumes.
Ron never once SHARED the stage with Gary and never uttered his name.
Not once!
Never!~
unless he was asked about him.
That SPEAKS VOLUMES. Paul knows EXACTLY what GJ was sent to do and Ron side stepped and maneuvered like the cunning fox he is.
Paul would never be caught dead on stage next to GJ and can not even bring himself to mention his name. never has and never will.

Most people are generally to stupid to get ron paul, even his OWN supporters.

Ron is asked a question about GJ ONE TIME, and all the retards use it as some kind of sick twisted endorsement!!!lol
how typical.

ron ONLY spoke of gjtard when asked about him, but never at any other time.

so WHAT does that TELL YOU?

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

this is total BS !

I saw him get asked on more than one occasion about Johnson after the primary and his response was Johnson is one people should look in to and consider. That is not an endorsement as he didnt endorse anybody but he made it quite clear that he voted but will not say who he voted for. He DID however make it quite clear it was not Romney! As i said, you pull this crap out of your hat as you go in some desperate attempt to win a debate and now you pretend to have some 'enlightened' knowledge about what RP is all about while everybody else is stupid and even vote yourself up while doing so... You are a Moron ! Done here debating with 'enlightened' Idiots....

Here is your 'Conservative' free4all....right here !

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/11/27/yes_rom...

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

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Ron mentioned gj once or twice, only when asked.
in other words he had NO COMMENT unless ASKED!

and i dont up or down vote ANYONES comments except ONE- and they knw who they are. i dont care who votes for what, libs do- so stop worrying over all your down votes- they dont come from me.
and i dont click links- theyre usually a liberal-trap.

if i were ron paul i would have wrote myself in and i will bet thats just what he did. if not it is a 50/50 gj or romney but i doubt he sees little difference in either.
and change ur moniker libtard

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

TRAITOR!!! TRAITOR!!!! IF HE

TRAITOR!!! TRAITOR!!!! IF HE WSZ A TRU3 PATRIOT HE WOULDN'T VOTE ON NDAA AT ALL. VOTING IZ AGRESSION! ADAM KOKESH 4 PREZ!

Guy

lay off the crack pipe already! He is the best thing we have going right now so until somebody better comes along and positions himself the way Rand has.... CAN IT !

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

He picks his battles and this

He picks his battles and this one is important. I am glad to see him fight this. It needs to be fought. Like all of his doings or not, I like this one. I truly hope the others up there will get their eyes opened.