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Senate debate on indefinite detention; Feinstein amendment passed 67-29, but...

The Senate finished debating the Feinstein amendment on indefinite detention.

The amendment passed 67-29; however, many Senators, including McCain and Graham, voted for the amendment because they made the argument that the amendment authorizes indefinite detention.

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Anxious anticipation.

Anxious anticipation.

We are

We are about to see where the rubber meets the road.

Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down.
-- Frederick Douglass

cspan newb question: why did

cspan newb question: why did they announce the names and votes in the previous roll call vote, but for this one only names?


but i guess they call roll for each vote, then vote, then state the votes... lol what a mess


yeah they are giving that now

yeah they are giving that now

they're roll calling



it looks like they are voting

it looks like they are voting now!

i think

the vote is up next


jeff sessions

tuned in just in time to hear jeff sessions say indefinate detention was not a problem for lincoln during the civil war nor for washington during the wiskey rebellion. both examples are abuses of power and unconstitutional. nice, jeff. what an idiot!

The constitution

The constitution does allow for the suspension oh habeus corpus during rebellion. Obviously it would apply in Lincoln's case but I'm unsure about whiskey rebellion history

Is there a youtube link?

I'd like to email it to him and explain to him that THAT is the reason he will be losing my vote and I will be actively campaigning against him!

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie

Now they are paving the road

Now they are paving the road for an invasion of Africa...the latest oil boom region.

Debate is over.

Vote will occur some time after 9:30 PM ET.


Please post video and especially Roll after. Thx


to the debate, but what the heck is Sessions talking about??


Now Inhofe is talking about the Congo and Rwanda - I understand it's in relation to an amendment, but what does that have to do with our NDAA?


Has Rubio spoken n favor f detention? If so please post the video. I want to use it against him

Here you go


Not a video but it's the best I've got so far.

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie

Thanks Angie

This will suffice.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

He hasn't

and won't speak on it.

...For Goodness Sakes is

...For Goodness Sakes is Right!!!

Wow..I just heard War


I just heard War Mongering Graham call us Comrades.

And now Rand is talking about bastards lols.. awesome.

Graham Caption


One day, I'm gonna' change my name to Dale Lee Paul


Holy CRAP I was getting BENT until Rand started speaking! GO RAND!




The biggest liars ever! NDAA

I've never heard so many lies and fantasy's in my life. Al-Queda is going to take over American with "belligerents" in row-boats headed toward the US or attacks a US base? What a joke!

The US military, with 10,000 spy satellites, 10,000 nuclear weapons, directed energy weapons, missile shields, drones, GPS guided bombs that can hit any point in the world in 7 minutes, Lasers in Space that can hit you Instantaneously, tapping every phone and communication in the world...

They are afraid that a belligerent? in a row boat? is part of the war on terror? In order to set precedent to claim any "belligerent" is a terrorist?

Did he not listen that the US created the Al-Qaeda, the Afghan Freedom Fighters, the Mujaheddin and the US runs the Heroin in Afghanistan?

Hillary Clinton - "We Created Al-Qaeda", "We Funded them, Gave them Weapons and Trained them"...

"Marines grow opium for their masters", "We help them grow it & help protect the shipping lanes", directly to the US, Russia & Europe.

yeah...but these are the people that think the Pentagon was

attacked by some guys with box cutters.

Seems like Levin is making the argument

that the AUMF and the Hamdi case allows the indefinite detention of persons regardless if this amendment passes or not.

I agree, but, Levin and Graham are pissed, and sounds like

the NWO guys lost this debate. We are getting our liberties back one inch at a time.

All They had to Say

Is that Frankenfeinstein wrote it and it's out the window for me as well as any of those traitors that back it!