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Jimmy Carter SLAMS Netanyahu, Obama DRONE policy, civil liberty violations

Now I do know Jimmy Carter had to be an insider of NWO...otherwise he wouldn't have gotten to where he did.

Having said that, considering the curse of Bush family-Clinton-Obama after his time, I would rather have this 88 year old man go on talking more like this:

http://youtu.be/H2IQiYI1Emw



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There Was A Study Evaluating The Performance Of Every President

from a libertarian perspective. The study concerned their actions, not their words or beliefs.

Carter was the 8th most libertarian president in American history, by far the best ranking of all modern-day presidents.

The best things in his favor were the peace he maintained and his appointment of Paul Volcker as Fed chair.

I can't find the study or the article I read describing it; I believe I read the article on this site sometime back.

But in any case people should hold Carter in higher regard. I think he is by far the best president we've had since Kennedy.

Bear in mind that Regan gave us George Bush Sr. which in turn gave us George Bush Jr. Imagine how different this country would be if Reagan had run with Ron Paul as his running mate.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

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Your point about Carter's rating is well taken. However, regarding "Regan gave us George Bush Sr.":

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Reagan HATED H W. He was his strong adversary during 1980 Republican primary. Reagan even called out H W's disgusting CIA activities, Trilateral Commission during one of the primary debates...Video of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhaOZ-Ifb7c#t=85s

Reagan's assassination attempt soon after he became president was engineered by H W, using his CIA connections....not too differently compared with JFK.

H W was imposed as Reagan's running mate due to his CIA connection. During Reagan's time, all the undesirable activities of military industrial complex (abuses in Central/South America including Panama, Honduras, Colombia, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Iran Contra etc.) had H W's hands all over them.

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We need to start going after the Democratic party now!

Ron paul has set the stage for us to become the tent of the Republican party and virtually damaged the neocons. As we have much more to continue the work with the Republicans we must start with the democratics. We have Dennis Kucinich and now with a former Democratic president speaking out about the injustice that is going on with our American drone killings and assassinations this is perfect for us to start interjecting liberty minded ideas into the Democratic Party.

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AGREE

Patrick Wood has a good write-up on Carter

Detailing his involvement with the Trilateral Commission. Read it here:
http://www.theendrun.com/the-trilateral-commission-usurping-...

Excerpt: President James Earl Carter, the country politician who promised, "I will never lie to you," was chosen to join the Commission by Brzezinski in 1973. It was Brzezinski, in fact, who first identified Carter as presidential timber, and subsequently educated him in economics, foreign policy, and the ins-and-outs of world politics. Upon Carter‘s election, Brzezinski was appointed assistant to the president for national security matters. Commonly, he was called the head of the National Security Council because he answered only to the president – some said Brzezinski held the second most powerful position in the U.S. Carter‘s running mate, Walter Mondale, was also a member of the Commission. (If you are trying to calculate the odds of three virtually unknown men, out of over sixty Commissioners from the U.S., capturing the three most powerful positions in the land, don’t bother. Your calculations will be meaningless.)

Right on with this comment.

Yeah.

Funny how ex-presidents stand up for all of this righteous stuff--even though they rarely do it while in office!

What would the Founders do?

I Find This Thread To Be Very Disturbing, and Not Just Because

it centers on the second worst president in decades.

Apparently there is a small cadre of DP readers who are also die-hard Jimmy Carter supporters. Former Democrats? I don't know, but they vote down posts, not because they are inaccurate, but because they make simple observations about Carter that while true, they don't like; see the comment by ConstitutionHugger as an example.

It is absolutely SHOCKING that people who are smart enough to support Ron Paul are so ignorant that they also support Jimmy Carter. In spite of what RPWR says, Carter DOES "give a cr*p what other people think of HIM", as evidenced by his non-stop apologetics for the last 32+ years.

At least George W. had the good sense to disappear after leaving the White House, but not so with Jimmy. Because of his desire to micromanage others and display his "superior" intellectual capability, Carter felt the need to publicly critique his successors to the oval office. A humble man he ain't.

You would think that after having three decades to review his failed presidency, Carter would have gained some smarts regarding foreign policy. But once a fool, always a fool. He actually believes that U.S. support of Islamic rule in Egypt will lead to democracy there.
http://en.aswatmasriya.com/news/view.aspx?id=5acdcc40-4619-4...

Let the down votes begin, but while you're at it, I'd like to know how the Carter supporters on the DP can justify his support for the rule of Sharia law in Egypt, or any other nation, for that matter.

No, many are hard core anti-Semites

They could not find home before since Obama was continued Bush wars. Finally they heard about RP. They thought RP's cutting "aid" to Israel will make Israel weak and Arabs stronger. They rejoyced. Surely, this November many of them voted for Obama. Capitalism is not what they are actually after.

Veterans..., they were brought in here by RP populism (RP: I will stop all wars and I will take care of you, soldiers.) Had RP offered same perks to trade unions, they would also all be here.

Many outsiders sensed that back in the fall of 2011. They came to talk about individual liberties, but saw mostly talk about group demands for Palestinians and rant against greedy Jewish bankers.

I am neither this or that.

To the 2 posters above:

I do not claim to be an expert concerning past political figures, presidents included. My story is known here on the DP.

I have said that I am ashamed to be my age and never interested in politics before. An over-achiever in many areas, I have led a decent and productive life, minding my own business. I voted 'hope and change' in 2008, but only after asking family members who I should vote for. Just prior to this January 2012, I sensed something seriously wrong. Things were very different than they were when I was growing up. I did not attribute it to anything political, until a family member came for a visit and suggested that I look at our government. Reluctant, and still not interested, I took it upon myself to do so.

Ron Paul was the last candidate that I researched, simply because I never heard of him before. Prior to supporting Ron Paul, I looked at every candidate's voting records, none of which appealed to me. It was after researching Ron Paul, that I discovered that I led my entire life pretty much the way that he promoted his ideas. From there I was hooked, and knew that Ron Paul was the candidate that I could support from my heart, and my intellect.

So, when I hear Carter or Rand promote what I believe to be important for humanity and this nation, our Republic, I scramble whatever time I have available to research further. Considering my political awareness began only this year, I personally feel that I have covered more ground than many so-called conservatives [and liberals] have their entire lives. Yet, I still know that I have very much to learn, and will continue to do so. I will not speak for others; their travels are unique and different than mine.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Felt pretty good to hear a

Felt pretty good to hear a former US president say what needs to be said.

Carter understands something about liberty

Wow, I really appreciate this video. Abby's delight in talking with him comes across as very genuine, and reminds me of my own experience. If you'll indulge me, I'll tell my (long-ish) Jimmy Carter story, for what its worth...

My university student council at Georgia Tech brought Carter to speak not too long after Reagan became president - I think within the first year of his term or so. (You might remember that Carter attended Georgia Tech for a year or so as a nuclear engineering student before going off to the Naval Academy.) Carter was still stinging a bit over the loss, but was very gracious and down-to-earth all the same. He spoke to an auditorium full of students, probably 400-500 or so seats. He talked frankly about his presidency, good and bad. He described how hard he worked to release the hostages. He described his efforts at Camp David that are echoed in this video.

He described the hand-off of the presidency to Reagan, which was an astonishing account. Carter had Reagan come in so he could basically brief him on the job itself. Things like the status of certain negotiations, and work-in-progress stuff that Reagan would be expected to continue with. He related that Reagan took no notes, and wasn't all that interested in any of it - but rather indicated he was more of a big-picture guy and would learn what he needed as he went. Basically blew off an opportunity to learn something potentially useful :-(

Anyway, it was an interesting talk, and Carter came across as quite sharp and very personable. Then he opened it up for questions. *From 500 college students*.. *for over an hour*! For over an hour he fielded unscripted questions on every imaginable topic from his own presidency as well as concerning current events. Particularly on current events, he was *very* well informed and easily rattled off details and in-depth explanations about events unfolding all over the world - details that were conspicuously missing from the news reports and press briefings of the day. I gained a very healthy respect for the man in that hour.

Of course, Carter is no Austrian - he did not oppose the Keynsian status quo in any significant way. And he didn't shy away from government solutions. But he did have a pretty good grasp on our Natural rights (he tended to think more along the lines of "human rights"). I give him credit for respecting the rights of people everywhere to self-govern without US meddling. For restraining the CIA. And for genuinely *seeking* peace.

I also give him credit for appointing Volker (RP's favorite Fed chair), who prescribed harsh medicine to beat back the inflation that was such a problem throughout Ford's term (remember Ford's campaign slogan against Carter was WIN - whip inflation now). Reagan gets a lot of credit for the growth that occurred as the inflation settled down and we normalized after that deliberate recession, but Carter bought into Volker's pitch that containing the inflation would require the unpopular methods he went on to employ.

I recommend his book, "Everything to Gain" which describes how he got started with Habitat and how he has embarked on his post-presidential career, which has often earned him recognition as the best ex-president in memory.

Even now, in his late eighties, he works productively and earnestly as a humanitarian. I'd be happy to take several more like him in public life. He's not the total package we love in Ron Paul, but he's a good voice for peace and sanity.

I'm voting for Peace.

You know, I hate to say it,

You know, I hate to say it, as everyone usually bashes Carter, but he is the only President that I ever wrote a letter to, and his secretary wrote me back. Reagan was my favorite so far, but there was something honest about Carter. Just something (I am so old I forget now) that I wanted to tell him what a good man I thought he was. Agreed, lousy Pres., but I liked him for some reason.

What a racist... (I'm joking)

What a racist...

(I'm joking)

Abby is so hot. Smart, not

Abby is so hot. Smart, not only mentally, but physically too. My type of lady....

Since the Arabs in Israel now

Since the Arabs in Israel now have a recognized state, that means they can supply their own power, water, and telecommunications. Shut the valve and flip the switch. They owe Israel $180 Million for services provided under established contracts that they have been getting largely for free. Also, Israel collects their taxes on duties and imports. That stops. And, since their currency is the shekel, stop exchanging it. Apartheid is sometimes the best solution. Case in point, South Africa.

There is no such thing as a Palestinian. They are Arabs. If you have never been to the Middle East, Arabs are the largest practitioners of apartheid on the planet and the least free people in the world, completely succumbed to the most egregious nanny states you can imagine and have zero regard for individual liberty.

Hooray for his stance on drones and privacy. Sounds familiar.

Boy

You have scared our home grown anti-Semites and muslim immigrants who joined RP movement naively thinking that cutting "aid" to Israel will make Israel weaker. Otherwise, they do not care about individualist ideology or capitalism. They all collectivists, they see people in groups.

Like most Arabs and socialists, they thought services to Palestinians were self produced.

They seriously don't get it.

They seriously don't get it. The history of the Brotherhood has direct ties to the Nazis and is steeped in socialism. Islamofascists are nothing to root for. I have stared them eyeball to eyeball. Their theocracies are the most brutal on the planet with regards to individual freedom...China included. I worked in Saudi. When I was in Saudi, I have seen the gatherings when the head choppings begin...thousands gather to cheer and their chief executioner is a national hero. America gives five times more money to the enemies of Israel than it does to Israel. Dr. Paul often quoted this stat. You think the TSA is bad? Try having pages cut from a magazine or a book confiscated upon entry to these countries. I was searched for three hours once while a computer guy went through my laptop file by file.

Mossad-Saudi nexus

The fact that Israel - Saudis have no official ties is wool pulled over your eyes. Saudi royals are in bed with Mossad. Saudi sacrificial bodies (drugged by CIA) were recruited with Mossad's help and supplied by Saudi royals. CIA-Mossad-Saudis are a nexus.

Your fail. Try again.

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"No such thing as...

...a Palestinian" is like saying there's no such thing as an American.

BTW, there are many Armenians and Greeks who've lived for many generations in Palestine -- dating all the way back to Pentecost in many cases. They're not Arabs, of course, but they are Palestinians.

Why did I have a feeling that

Why did I have a feeling that no one was actually going to be talking about the topic here, rather than Jimmy Carter's presidency?

I haven't read his book on this subject, but it's a pretty popular one that came out years ago labeling Israel an apartheid state. I commend him for making these comments.

Probably because

Jimmy was a failure in so many ways. It's hard to listen to him even if he's right once in awhile.

I don't want to listen to GW talk about how to fix the economy either, even when he may have a good point here and there.

Carter wasn't an "insider" of the NWO.

He was, as he still is just a bleeding-heart, naive, Southern, yellow-dog Democrat. He doesn't believe in one-world government in the way that true NWO types see an "end of history." But, he is under the Wilsonian fantasy that the U.S. can "lead the world" in human rights and democracy as we and all other nations abide by international law. Notice he didn't say anything about how surveillance and unilateral, executive assassination violate OUR Constitution.
Nevertheless, of all the Wilsonian presidents we've had, one thing that can be said of Carter is that he's the only one who pursued Wilsonian goals through peace and negotiation rather than through war.

I think you are correct--

he posed no threat to the establishment, so they let him in--

he wasn't an effective president, according to most, but he may have been a good man--

many have claimed that Ron Paul couldn't have been a good president, either, but Paul has based his principles on the constitution--

which no other president has done for many decades--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Yep, I noticed that too!

"Notice he didn't say anything about how surveillance and unilateral, executive assassination violate OUR Constitution."

BINGO, he quotes US breaches in International human rights, not the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, that was very telling, a glaring omission of his belief in internationalism.

Other then that I liked what he had to say...

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Concede

I concede you on this point....However:

Without full knowledge of inside information, the jury is still out on how much authority Carter really had to call the shots. This may be knowledge he will take with himself to the grave. Especially regarding the Afghanistan mujahideen issue started by Zbigniew Brzezinski reptile...Do we know for certain CIA hadn't tied Carter's hands?

Reason I raise this question: Everything about Carter's anti-Zionist statements after he was out of office contradict Brzezinski policies. He isn't under same amount of pressure from CIA anymore. He doesn't factor into any policy decisions. Surely, Brzezinski appointment was CIA influenced.

Now if my premise is indeed true, you might counter with: So what? "Commander in Chief, Executive", should be able to call the shots etc.

If you do, I preempt with my own counter-argument: Once again, how much do with know of all internal details, whether Carter could stand-up to the CIA? We know even Reagan didn't stand up to CIA during Iran Contra, Nicaragua-Central America mess. Last President to truly stand up to CIA was JFK, and everyone knows about his fate.

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Anti-Zionist

Look here guys, from 2007. This man is pretty consistent about attacking the media-industrial complex and Zionism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDKw0f95k7Q

He may be repeatedly quoting "international"/"global" laws...But it doesn't take much to see his speech is more than mere lip service, and he does not seem to be an NWO insider anymore.

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Isn't it cute how he only refers to global laws?

I'm not sure what treaty or UN law he was refering to regarding human rights, but he didn't mention anything about our American laws and traditions. Or do those exist?

Until Obama Came Along, Carter Was the WORST President Ever

This man is a fraud. He pretends to be a good Christian who builds homes for strangers, but he is really just an anti-semitic, anti-American globalist who doesn't give a damn about Americans.

Case in point, after Reagan took office, Carter worked hard behind the scenes to make sure the Americans who had been held hostage by Iran were prohibited from suing Iran for damages.

For all of the uninformed who have bought into Carter's phony Sunday-school-teacher-persona, he and his power-hungry wife couldn't even say hello to the Clintons (whom they hate) at Obama's inauguration. They walked right past them after fawning over Barbara Bush. How's that for Christian love?

Carter is a VERY, VERY bitter old man who is worried about his historical legacy. He realizes he doesn't have much time left to convince the loathsome Americans that he is a great man and was a great president. Consequently, he will say whatever he needs to in order to become more popular.

Unfortunately for him, there are too many of us still alive who remember exactly what life was like when he was in the White House.

Shhhhh

you have offended our Blue Republicans and muslim collectivists who secretly voted for Obama. Their main common reason to be here - they think RP is less pro-Israel than other politicians, but Obama is their second choice.

Free-market capitalism does not occupy their mind.