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Senate Votes To Tighten Sanctions On Iran - Rand Paul Votes Yes 11/30/12


Not one single no vote.

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 112th Congress - 2nd Session
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3232 to S. 3254 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013)
Statement of Purpose: To enhance sanctions imposed with respect to Iran.


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Fishy nailed it again. Iran does not use petro-dollars.

THAT is the reason and it's the ONLY reason we're going after them. Doesn't Rand know this?

It's the same reason we took out Quadifi. He was working on a new African currency BACKED BY GOLD.

The Federal reserve SURE COULDN'T HAVE THAT - So down he went.

It's ALWAYS about the bankers --- ALWAYS.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Technically sanctions are not "an act of war."

In a practical sense I agree with Ron Paul that they don't work and end up punishing the innocent civilians, but in Rand's defense, his position isn't unreasonable from a freedom perspective.

Sanctions and embargoes are different from blockades, universally accepted acts of war, and at least sanctions are legal and have a long history of use in the United States.

Even Thomas Jefferson used embargoes. (Not that Thomas Jefferson was a perfect president, but still pretty damn good compared to all of the recent ones).

Even if you disagree with Rand, which I can relate to, you have to admit that at least Rand is following the Constitution. I'll forgive him for acting like a statist every once in a while as long as he does it according the Constitution.

Let's not forget that Ron Paul once voted to go war with Al-Qaeda. He did it Constitutionally.


Exactly what am I being downvoted here for? I said.

Sanctions aren't technically an act of war. This is true.
That I don't agree with it. This is true.
That Thomas Jefferson used embargoes. This is true.
That he is still following the Constitution. This is true.
That Ron Paul himself has voted to go to war. This is also true.

"Sanctions aren't technically an act of war."

I didn't down vote you. I can't answer as to why others did, but I will say this:

Tell that to the innocent dead. Oh, you can't. So, let's get "technical" here. Do sanctions cause innocent people to die? If you answer yes, then who gives a flying monkey if it is *technically* an act of war or not?

Two words: Golden Rule


Can you just admit you work for the DHS?

Divide and rule...

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But if the DP is front paging articles by DHS then surely you must be a top covert sock puppet for them of as well considering all of the front page articles you've had here.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul


"Truth should be known... As long as it's relevant to my interest"

That's exactly what it is appearing to me, those trying to defend Rand on this issue.

A vote is a vote. He voted for the sanctions, there are no questions.

Rand may be good on many issue, but not on this one. Information of this even should be known to alert people so we do not support Rand blindly.

Rand is different, He is not the Dr. Ron Paul, we should all be aware of this and not spew baseless conspiracy theories to defend Rand.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

Like any site...

Like any site, this one has been infiltrated by RINOS as evidenced by their support of "I want to be Israel's bottom boy Rand Paul."

Just ignore these folks and keep pointing out that Rand is a fake and not really a Republican, but a democrat-lite neocon.

I'm not a RINO.

I still support Rand. I don't agree with this particular vote, and I did not agree with that 'life begins at conception' bill, but he is still the man. I don't care what you haters say, he is still a spitting image of Ron Paul. He is his son, not a clone. Even Justin Amash has split with Ron's political beliefs, like the one time he voted yea on a law regarding Israel and Ron voted Nay.

I wish you guys would quit attacking him and go after the other 99 or so morons in the Senate. He is still by far the best Senator in the last 100 years.

Let's make millions of little kids lives miserable

Ya,that'll solve the worlds problems.Sigh.


I don't know

about Rand. He says one thing and does another. Consistency is hard to come by. Chip off the old block, I don't think so!!

dave anderson

I think Rand is being consistent here.

I don't recall him ever opposing sanctions.


damage-control explanation.

Think it will work?

Brother Winston Smith

The r3VOLution is NOT republiCAN.

i agree, but...

consistency is only a virtue if you aren't a screw up.

I can see no reason to support this unless you are fighting for the International Bankers desire to control Iran.

I seriously doubt that's why any of our Senators

voted for this. They voted for it because they're afraid Iran is developing nuclear weapons and they think sanctions will make them stop. There's also the political aspect. Many believe AIPAC will have them defeated if they oppose sanctions on Iran. Lastly, there's the humanitarian/meddling reason. There are those Lincolnian/Wilsonians who would like to sanction not just Iran, but, every country that doesn't support and defend their version of human rights.


a lot of them believe the propaganda reasons you mentioned, but Rand knows better.

I don't know.

He said in an interview when asked about his vote for sanctions this past spring that he has a different take on sanctions than his father. One DPer pasted an email response he got from Rand explaining why he voted for sanctions on Iran's central bank. In the alleged email, Rand told him that Iran's central bank was funding terrorism (I imagine he's referring to Hamas) and that that was the reason why he supported sanctioning the Iranian central bank. I have yet to hear whether or not Rand actually believes if Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons or not.

Thanks Rand. Just another

Thanks Rand. Just another measurement from tree to apple, keeps rolling further and further.

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Gosh, I already deeply miss Dr. NO . . .

ok, we just have to deal with what we are dealt with. I know. dr. NO was just SO breathtakingly consistent on universal human values and the golden rule - treating others as we would like others treat us.


We need Dr. No back!

He's really bigoted I guess.

He's really bigoted I guess. He's willing to trade their lives for domestic policy. Maybe he sees himself as Andrew Jackson. Whereas Ron Paul was more like Jefferson or Madison.

Ventura 2012

Rand confuses me. One minute

Rand confuses me. One minute he seems to be doing all the right things, and the next something like this.

Blessings )o(

What else would you expect...

from someone "playing the game"? Very sad indeed.

If men are good, you don't need government; if men are evil or ambivalent, you don't dare have one.

It will hurt the Iranian Citizens

It will hurt the Iranian Citizens. Iraq lost many millions because of sanctions like this.

I know it. That's what I

I know it. That's what I mean. One minute Rand seems to do all the right things, and the next he wages economic and social war on innocent people. I just don't get it.

Blessings )o(