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Why is Israel our ally, some even argue the greatest of our allies?

We have all heard of it, Israel is our ally, we must defend our greatest ally, Friends don't let friends get nuked, the list goes on.

So here's something to discuss, why is Israel our ally at all?

I have not heard of anyone who gives a reason behind their statement: "Israel is our ally" Friends, family, politicians, or media talking heads. It was simply given to me as a fact.

What have Israel ever done that is in favor of the United States, but is not directly in their national interests? Because I am sure the USA have done that in many occasions.

Why were they considered an "ally" to begin with?

Where did the notion of Israel being an ally even come from?

I hope anyone who comments can help to shed light on this matter




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What in the world are you talking about?

The thread is asking why Israel is considered to be our strongest ally by many, including most Republicans. You're supposed answer is because the person that invented the atom bomb was of the same ethnicity as the majority of the people in Israel? You saw that wouldn't work, so, your next argument is that it's because some of Israel's oil-rich neighbors mandate Sharia Law? The religious practices of Israel's neighbors aren't a reason for Israel to be our "strongest ally."

I agree.

If the topic was about why we support Fabian UK, there would be no problem to answer - there is a considerable number of people of British descent. Same with Jews. But that is given. I was giving you more reasons than UK can offer.

They think they'll go to hell

They think they'll go to hell if they don't support Israel. I actually had a conversation with a guy about this... right before he went into a strip club LOL. Cognitive dissonance "double-think" is a telltale sign of propaganda.

The CIA is on record as calling Israel the #1 spy threat. Its really only armchair generals and white redneck evangelical that believe otherwise to be honest.

Ventura 2012

I thought they stole the technology from the US and ....

JFK paid the price for daring to stop them at Dimona.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217955.html

Ignore the media's lies and propaganda.

Notice the dates

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/israel/documents/exchange/index...

remembering Kennedy was assassinated Nov 22, 1963

it's true ladies and gentleman... be afraid of the truth, and refuse to accept it if you like, but the facts speak for themselves

We have been a nation of ignorant cowards for >50 yrs

believing whatever the Magic box tells us

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

old news

US had been bullying Israel from day one. In 1953 it forced Israel to withdraw from Suetz canal. In 1967 did not give Israel to harvest its victory in the war.

Pentagon just wanted to know if Israeli scientists came up with a better design than American Jews.

What country are you from?

Check who worked at the "Manhattan" Project and Albert Einstein's letter to US president to start atomic project.

The level of poor education cannot be fixed by youtube clips. At least check Wikipedia if you do not have time to read books.

PressTV is the official Iranian government outlet.

The expressed reason for Israel being our "ally"

is the most Neoconservative of reasons imaginable. You ask anybody that question and they will tell you it's because Israel was the first democracy in the Middle East. It is the exact reason why Muslims hate Israel and the United States. They see Israel as the America's secular, democratic satellite in their Holy Land with the purpose of spreading hated secular democracy to Muslim states. It's funny. Neoconservatives not only do not deny this view; they embrace it.

Their ultimate goal is to make every country in the world a liberal, secular democracy like France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, etc. It's the same reason the Wilson administration gave for supporting Britain over Germany in WWI. It's all about backing democracy and punishing non-democratic countries.

I am guessing that view

Is what they considering doing justice for the world, I think they imagine themselves being "peacemakers" and "heroes" of the world.

" It is in the ranks of the Party, and above all of the Inner Party, that the true war enthusiasm is found. World-conquest is believed in most firmly by those who know it to be impossible. "

- Goldstein in Nineteen Eighty-Four

So what's the best argument against this view? Blowback? That one of the chief reasons that 9/11 occurred was due to our support of Israel?

Anything with lots of evidence to back it up?

I searched a bit and I think some believe that the Mossad provide intelligence in the region to the US, thus ensuring our national security that we otherwise would not have, is this true?

The way Mossad do thing may be one of the links to why Israel is hated, and thus our support for it.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

Not 100% sure

but I think because our friendship with them helps us strengthen our pursuits in the Middle East. We want what they have, close access to all that land and oil. Just my guess.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine