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Cynthia McKinney, Georgia - A MUST Listen

6-term Rep Cynthia McKinney, former Democrat, Green Party, misrepresented, because establishment is afraid of her. She speaks out against obama, romney, bush, ptb, endless war, global initiatives, restriction of freedom of speech, targeted assasination, etc.

She may run again in 2014 after completing her Ph.D. As Ron Paul has stated, we must reach out and embrace Liberty, Freedom, candidates regardless of so-called and meaningless party affiliation. We must weed out the bad, from the good.

Ron Paul is mentioned a couple of times :-)

Edited: adap2k provided this VIDEO link: http://12160.info/video/obama-the-great-deceiver-cynthia-mck...

Click about 1/3 of the way in, THIS IS A MUST LISTEN:

http://rss.infowars.com/20121130_Fri_Alex.mp3

Bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney

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I would vote for Cynthia

I would vote for Cynthia McKinney in a heartbeat. I don't care how liberal she is. She knows who the real bad guys are. That's where the priority lies right now.

Outreach outreach outreach!

Somebody send her a copy of Jekyll Island for Christmas? Seriously. Dunno. I'm fresh out. (I don't get paid til next week--if I'm lucky!)

Give her a push in the "right" direction? What is there to lose?

Until this happens we're just wasting our breath here.

If she is a firebrand for good--even being partially ignorant of the Truth--should we not do anything to help her / potentially US? The more the merrier in liberty.

Worse case scenario: she ignores book/tosses it. Maybe word gets out that she received some "wacko libertarian" book from somebody. OK, good. ANY publicity for these ideas is good publicity--in the political sphere at least.

(Or am I a dummy? OK, back to the crack pipe for me! ; ) )

What would the Founders do?

for those of you worried about her economic attitudes--

Cynthia is black. She needs the dots connected between the federal reserve and the robbing/pillaging of *her* "people"--

she pushes the redistribution, because she doesn't see that the globalist bankers who oppress the poorest people in the world (who probably work the hardest) . . . being brought to justice--

she goes about things in a different way, and her learning isn't finished, but don't give up on her--

this woman has integrity--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I like Cynthia--

she's quirky, but she's gutsy--

most DPers find her too 'liberal', but she's willing to learn, and she's shown tremendous courage in a lot of arenas--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Another Example...One of Many...

...that a goodly percentage of those who populate this forum and make up this 'movement' are willing to giddily embrace nearly anything/anyone based on a narrow specific or two, whilst ignoring other critical facts indicating disdain for the principles of individual liberty and the text of the Constitution.

Such people are innocently-ignorant, willfully-ignorant, dirt-stupid, or knowingly-insidious.

As I see it, of course.

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Eh give em a break

Most of us are just refreshed to see a politician not stuff a big baloney sandwich down our throats. I'm sure most people here know the garbage that comes with the Green party types.

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I have to ask Cynthia McK HOW to send our private Christmas

relief packages to the victims of the latest zionists' aggression in Gaza WITHOUT getting rebuffed by zionists' blockade. She's an experienced courageous gift-bearer to the suffering people.

I am against government aids to foreign countries, but ALL for private donations & contributions to suffering people in foreign lands. Read how devastating this latest zionists' attacks on Palestine was!

Truth and Trauma in Gaza
by Kathy Kelly, December 03, 2012
http://original.antiwar.com/kelly/2012/12/02/truth-and-traum...

Cynthia McKinney is an Honest woman...

I very much disagree with her on what government ought to be. I agree with her about 60% compared to Ron Paul at about 98%, however having seen many interviews with her I can say she would never do anything against her conscience. Honesty carries a lot of weight in my book. She would never do anything knowingly to hurt this country. She will not knuckle down to Israel. She will not knuckle down to the bankers. If she were president she would probably be better than almost anyone we've had during the 20th century (if the bankers didn't kill her first).

-Bloatedtoad

Michael N taught me this

If some one agrees with your on a point, then form an alliance on THAT point. Don't focus on your differences with them as it will kill the alliance.

I hope I taught Michael this-keep in mind your new ally's other positions and where you differ as eventually you will have to deal with those issues and you may be far apart. Be prepared to split with your single issue ally.

After all Hitler and Stalin signed a non aggression pact in both their common interests.

We all know what happened just a couple of years later.

Remember Hitler did not throw his support to Stalin, he merely made an alliance.

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EVERYTHING is about understanding LIBERTY and HONEST MONEY

People, my friends, I know right next to nothing about Cynthia McKinney beyond this video I've just watched. But here's what I have to say :

At the end of the day ...

... EVERYTHING, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING comes down to understanding what Liberty and Sound Money Economics REALLY are.

http://www.laissez-faire.me/Liberty

http://www.laissez-faire.me/Economics

Are you a Christian ? Re-read Jesus and the apostles' account.

Are you a Muslim ? Re-read your Qur'an.

Are you an atheist ? Re-read your favorite historians.

Here is the Truth :

LIBERTY IS VERY NEW.

LIBERTY is OUR PEOPLE's BABY.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/billofrights

Our baby is STILL UNBORN. This country's founders CONCEIVED OUR BABY.

We ARE NOW FIGHTING THE ABORTIONISTS OF LIBERTY : TPTB of the United States of America.

Those BLOOD AND SWEAT sucker worms STILL VERY BUSY AT THEIR ABORTIONIST works - 100 years after they have started :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act

...

For millenniums, yes, THOUSANDS OF YEARS, THE STATE, in the form of KINGS, EMPERORS, TYRANS, ... has SUBJECTED peoples.

Socialist and communist collectivism HAS ONLY PROVEN ITSELF to be yet another form of THE ALMIGHTY STATE WHO CANNOT PRODUCE ANYTHING but more of THE LAW PERVERTED to STEAL the people's hard earned wealth to enrich itself - THE PARASITIC STATE - who wants TO SUBJECT ITS PEOPLE UNDER ITS BOOT.

The CENTRAL BANKERS and KEYNESIAN ECONOMISTS FRAUDS are the NEW COLLECTIVISTS - or The NEO COMMUNISTS, TAKE YOUR PICK - but feel free to put it simpler :

CONTROL FREAKS THIEVES, who, TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, also want TO BE PRAISED for ALL THE MISERY THEY CREATE.

And corrupt, rent-seeking politicians, with accomplice MSM, ARE THEIR BEST TOOLS.

And if Cynthia now finds it is the time to denounce The Obama and GOP deceptions, this is good for Liberty - but please, ALWAYS remember - and let us continue TO EDUCATE HER AND OTHERS of our honest, self-reliant neighbors :

E V E R Y T H I N G

is about understanding this NEW CHILD NAMED LIBERTY that TPTB - the STATISTS - be it in the "liberal" or "republican" or whatever shape, wishes TO HAVE THE BIRTH ABORTED.

TRUTHFUL knowledge is OUR power.

SHARE IT, SPREAD IT, EXPLAIN IT, DEFEND IT.

TPTB's KNOWLEDGE FRAUD IS OVER :

Liberty vs. Socialism
http://www.dailypaul.com/249170/liberty-vs-socialism

There Is NO SUCH THING as "Public Money"
http://www.dailypaul.com/264932/margaret-thatcher-there-is-n...

Paul Krugman schooled by Austrian School Economist Pedro Schwartz - Or how intellectually fraudulent Mr. Krugman can be - Nobel Prize Paul Krugman : The Greatest TOOL for U.S. Governments' UNLIMITED SPENDING
http://www.dailypaul.com/264950/paul-krugman-schooled-by-aus...

How The Minimum Wage Is Not Only Unfair, But Is Also Actually Hurting The Economy
http://www.dailypaul.com/256046/how-the-minimum-wage-is-not-...

If Silver's Supply Goes Down All Hell Will Break Loose In The Physical Market; Will Desperate People Go For Digging In Landfills ?
http://www.dailypaul.com/263594/if-silver-goes-down-all-hell...

On The Fraudulent Rationale Of The Keynesian Economists' Cobb-Douglas Function
http://www.dailypaul.com/263316/dimensions-and-economics-som...

The DOW JONES Has ALREADY Been Crashing ... For TEN YEARS
http://www.dailypaul.com/262493/how-would-anyone-make-money-...

DEMOCIDE : Death By Government
http://www.dailypaul.com/253314/democide-death-by-government

Why Ezekiel 33:2-6 Is More Current Than Ever : Ron Paul's PREDICTIONS in DUE time
http://www.dailypaul.com/263613/ezekiel-332-6-is-more-curren...

Ron Paul Is Changing The World
http://www.dailypaul.com/258273/ron-paul-is-changing-the-world

Peace.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I like your analogy. Conceived...not yet born.

This is very true and relates to the reality of the Christian spiritual realm also. The Church had the responsibility to bring forth the fullest expression of the Law of Liberty in Christ, the Manchild, the mature Body of Christ, but has failed.

However God Himself has accomplished this. Just as He brought forth the firstborn Son of God so He is soon to bring forth the first-fruits, the mature sons of God. (Romans 8:18-25)

The plague of abortion that has swept the world is just one of the judgements of God that is the result of the failure of the Church of Pentecost. There is always more at stake than we as Christians could possibly imagine when we swallow uncritically all the traditions of the elders, the doctrines of demons that have afflicted the Body of Christ for centuries.

It was no different two thousand years ago when the firstborn Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ came from Heaven in the fullness of time. The Judean Church of Passover in His time was also in a state of appalling hypocrisy and apostasy. Nevertheless He finished His work of Redemption and since His return in the Spirit He has worked to complete the Temple of His God and my God, of His Father and my Father. That Temple will soon be opened, the veil will be removed, the Ark of the Covenant will be seen and all flesh will see the glory of God in the Church of Tabernacles, the Kingdom of God.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

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I knew it would make sense to you at least

I'm not surprised it makes sense to you, David.

But even beyond the Christian faith or principles, this is something I realized not until late :

the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, though necessarily imperfect because man is merely so, has been the purest and simplest text ever written to elaborate a Republic around the Golden Rule.

That is the conception I always refer to.

Liberty, the dream of the early thinkers before the French Revolution itself is yet to be born.

The abortionists won against the idea in the French republic's womb for a free people. Big state has been back again there for long.

Maybe Ron Paul is saving this child for America, and ultimately the world.

Only god knows.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Lysiandad

I respect and appreciate your views. I will not be voting in Georgia, as I am not a resident there. This post is for others to ponder, and to make their own decisions. There is more than President, we are working local and state.

I do not know much about McKinney either, other than the 4 or 5 videos that I have watched. Further vetting is required (as I stated in the main thread), but I will say this:

She mentions Ron Paul on more than one occassion. She promotes sovereignty of nations, and opposes illegal war (read my post below to see the gist of the rest).

My point being, McKinney seems to have crossed the line in the sand TOWARD Liberty, not against. She may or may not understand the principles of sound money, but her points of views concerning this corrupt government are on par with Paul and Kucinich.

Ron Paul himself has stated that we must reach ALL people regardless of so-called party. When we find a glimmer of light, it is up to us to brighten it. Considering who holds office and who may potentially run, it may be a good idea for Georgians to reach out to Cynthia and teach what she does not know. If she has come this far, she may come the rest of the way. I would bet a Snickers that the current establishment on both sides of the isle in Georgia would not be willing to listen. At all.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Proudamericanfirst-If you don't know alot about McKinney

why not just state that she is awesome on this particular issue rather than supporting her as a "liberty/freedom" candidate.

Many people saw Chris Christie's you tube videos where he berated teachers who belong to the union and loved it. They knee jerk supported him without knowing his other points of view.

View the whole Mckinney package and you'll probably see that many of her views you find detestible-BUT that should not stop you from supporting her where you agree with her.

As mentioned before we can and should find common ground with leftists but that doesn't mean we should support them lock stock and barrell.

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Paulreal

Here you go: You are 100% correct. I am 100% incorrect. I hope that stops your bone with me.

To clear any misunderstanding: I do not support or not support McKinney. I do not reside in Georgia. I merely posted a thread for others to 'vet' themselves, as I have stated in the main thread.

She speaks peace and sovereingty. She speaks about bush/obama war crimes, illegal drones and the military industrial complex which is raping our Republic blind. She speaks about many things, other than economics, that I find welcoming and refreshing. Few people on either side will do so. If you choose to hate and ignore any good out of this, here is what you can do: go tell her.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I dont have any bone to pick with you or Mckinney

and I thank you for starting the thread. You asked for vetting. On the points above I agree with her. And she is to be commended for speaking out. We should support her where we agree.

You said we must reach out and liberty candidates - and I agree but we should know WHOM we are embracing and how much of that candidate we are embracing.

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I agree with positive attitudes on our side.

I agree with positive attitudes on our side.

If she takes now the stand to denounce corruption, moral hazard, and the ongoing deception of this MONO-PARTY political system - because THERE ARE NO DIFFERENCES beyond purely rhetorical ones between Dems and Reps as I see it, then we should support her as long as she defends The People to return to the founding texts.

And while this is a very strong requirement, I sure wouldn't be one to say this isn't worth for us to bring this on the table for her, and all others, who want to restore peace and prosperity.

INDEED : WE MUST educate as many people as we can, especially "politicians".

BUT ! BE VERY WARY of all those, despite our informed educational efforts based on FACTS we can see and THE LESSONS OF HISTORY, who will - STILL - want MORE government prerogatives, regulations, and more laws.

This is The Law Perverted VOMIT of legions of NON-SENSICAL or downright WRONG texts that The People cannot even READ before they're made into laws ... that KILLS Liberty.

This is Ron Paul's legacy :

to be faithful and truthfully INFORMED about the founders' principles and of sound economics.

Peace.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Go ahead and vote for the

Go ahead and vote for the lesser of two psychopaths, let me know how that works out for you!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Major red flags for me

Ron Paul is educated in economics. McKinney is not. She will not further educate the libertarian movement, only politicize it.

She believes in sovereignty,

and that Africa and other nations should be allowed to stand on their own. She mentions Ron Paul as I have posted below. She absolutely opposes bush/obama criminal acts against people and nations.

She may or may not understand economics, but who beside Ron, who have positions in government, truly does and embraces it? Maybe she can learn to embrace those ideas as she learns, like the rest of us?

This gal is on the war-path, and I fully support it.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Outreach outreach outreach!

Somebody send her a copy of Jekyll Island? Dunno. I'm fresh out. (I don't get paid til next week--if I'm lucky!)

Give her a push in the "right" direction?

Until this happens we're just wasting our breath here.

What would the Founders do?

She supports redistribution of wealth

which Ron paul opposes.
She is not suffering from a lack of knowledge of economics-what she knows is wrong

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Paulreal, I have a question:

Who specifically are you voting for next election? I need to know so that I can begin vetting that person now. He/she had better promote Austrian Economics or I won't bother.

Name please.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Havent Thought about 2016 President

I am in favor of liberty minded SMALL government candidates-which McKinney is not

I will support left wing people like Nader, Kucinich, McKinney* on select issues but will never support handing over the keys to them for full power to institute their socialist statist anti liberty agendas.

I would support Nader or Kucinich over a Lindsay Graham. McKinney vs Graham and I look for an alternative or don't vote

BTW all things considered, Rand Paul is still the closest to Ron Paul of all the potential candidates, so he would get my vote even though he voted for Iran sanctions and supported Romney

* and I will listen to Rachel Maddow and Cenk Ugyr when they make sense, but can never fully support their statist, socialist, tax crazed points of view.

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All things considered? lol

"all things considered, Rand Paul is still the closest to Ron Paul"

Rand has baggage that I completely oppose.

Wether he runs or not, I have been promoting Amash. Everywhere. HE is r3VOLution. Not Rand.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Dont disagree on Rand

he made a decision to play politics and it may serve him
Justin appears to be the real deal time will tell.

Unfortunately Ron Paul is one of a kind and indeed his greatest contribution has not been as a congressman but as a lighting rod for education.

Fundamentally I am against politics and politicians, especially Republicans and Democrats.

The refreshing thing about third party candidates is they speak their mind.

I don't always agree with what they say but respect that they speak what they think is the truth.

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My question to you is:

No wait, Ron Paul's question to you is:

Why get behind something if it's for the wrong reason.

So just because Rand is a Paul, and he says a few things that may be in line with Liberty, and he has semi-support of the establishment...

Why not put your money where your mouth is and get behind Amash?

I am almost certain that if he garners enough support and with r3VOLution behind him, he would take the run.

So, you 'compromise' instead because you think it is safe.

I can't wait to hear your response. And no, I do not have a bone to pick with you, I am enjoying the conversation :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Great! Amash may indeed be worthy of support

clearly from what I know far more than Mckinney.

Rand's biggest plus is his name recognition and sometime support of liberty causes. That makes him a valuable ally. And we can disagree with him when he strays.

It seems of the new comers Justin and Mike Lee of Utah are the most consistent liberty minded candidates.

What exactly does Justin wish to do in the coming years?
He is after all a child in political years-just 32 years old.

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"He is after all a child in political years-just 32 years old."

He will be age eligible in 2016. He will attract many young voters, of which Ron Paul will be speaking to at colleges after January (Ron himself has stated that it will be the young generation that will take over the party). Justin is strong on the Constitution, and has a very solid voting record. He won his 2nd term, where it is heavily democrat.

I am hitting the sack for work tomorrow, we can chat later, meantime, read, print and distribute, and give it a bump up:

http://www.dailypaul.com/262926/justin-amash-a-flyer

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Thanks

Bumped

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