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Do vaccines cause autism? Rep. Carolyn Maloney grills CDC in Congressional inquiry

Do vaccines cause autism? Rep. Carolyn Maloney grills the CDC over the practice of injecting babies and infants with multiple vaccines all at once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzy5oFwA1ik&feature=player_em...

FACT: The CDC openly admits that vaccines contain mercury, aluminum, MSG and formaldehyde. All of these are neurotoxic chemicals or metals. Read more at:

http://www.naturalnews.com/037653_vaccine_additives_thimeros...

I think this woman is courageous and deserves some of our thanks.

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I Survived

I survived mumps, chicken pox, and two kinds of measles. My baby cousin got shingles at 3 months of age--he's fine, too (was it a side-effect of his chicken pox vaccine?). No one I grew up with ever had autism. We had blind kids, and Down's syndrome, but no one with autism or ADHD. And everyone was skinnier.

I ate lots of halloween candy--but most was still made of real sugar, not GMO beets or GMO corn. The tariff on cane sugar hadn't been enacted, yet.

I'm glad I didn't get polio. I had that vaccine. But I like my immune system the way it is. Except for dental numbing, I haven't had any injections of any kind since 1974.

It's important to remember that as many mistakes as science makes (and in science, it's a virtue to make lots of them), it's government that makes them permanent, even if fatal, and it's critical for people to be able to choose for themselves and learn from the mistakes of others.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

This is some great perspective

on the actual death numbers, which is important if you want to make decisions based on reality and not fear-based manipulation.

From Rockefeller University, hardly an alternative source is a paper called Death and the Human Environment
http://phe.rockefeller.edu/death/

Also check out the Home Etc. book for girls in 1917 telling them how to handle various diseases should they crop up:

Whoophing cough - This is very contagious. It begins like an ordinary cold, growing more severe as time goes on, until the child begins to "whoop." It is not a dangerous disease, except in tiny babies, but it means suffering and terrible discomfort. Children are apt to vomit when they cough, and this requires much labor and much patience on the part of big sisters.

These are a few of the reasons given by the Board of
Health in New York City on the subject " Why a Mother
should nurse her Baby."

1. One death out of every five which occur at all ages
is that of a baby under one year of age, and the greatest
number of these deaths is among bottle-fed babies.

2. In the city of New York during 1912, 3392 babies
under one year of age died from bowel trouble, and nine
out of every ten of these babies were bottle-fed.

3. Mother's milk is the only safe food for a baby dur-
ing the first six months of its life.

4. Cow's milk or prepared food can never equal breast
milk as the proper food for the baby.

5. Breast fed babies rarely have bowel trouble. Bottle-
fed babies rarely escape it, particularly during warm
weather.

6. Babies fed on breast milk show the best develop-
ment ; the teeth will appear at the proper time ; the mus-
cles and bones will be stronger, and walking will not be
delayed.

7. A breast-fed baby is not so likely to have bronchitis
or croup, and if attacked by any disease, has a much
better chance of living than a bottle-fed baby.

8. Pneumonia in babies is fatal more often in bottle-
fed babies than in breast-fed babies.

Thanks for the contact info

Make it easy for people to do the right thing! CALL!

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Dr. Robert Mendelsohn (who was in practice for over 30 years...

had plenty to say, even 25 years ago, about the unintended effects of vaccines. The fact of two threads on this issue: Turn in your guns and get a free flu shot., and this one, tells me the issue is still hot.

There are plenty of adverse reactions to vaccinations, but the issue here is liberty: Should parents be free to choose whether to vaccinate or not?

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Amish

The Amish don't vaccinate and have zero rates of autism.

http://www.examiner.com/article/why-is-autism-non-existent-t...

Interesting, Thanks

I always like to go straight to the source on these things.

One question I have, though, is whether the Amish are under increased pressure to vaccinate, and whether more may be vaccinating, but not admitting it to the researchers.

What else could change their results? (Am I correct that their rates are increasing, but that they used to be lower than the rest of the population?) Maybe GMO contamination of crops?

Epidemiology is a challenging puzzle.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Are you OK with people choosing not to vaccinate?

Whether you consider their reasons valid or not? Do they have the right to decline?

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

of COURSE!

of course they have the right to decline! it's called individual freedom. Ron Paul has talked about it lots.......

Of course I'm okay with their right to choose no vaccination

This isn't even negotiable.

But as a student of science and medicine I don't want people to base their decision on fear-mongering or pseudoscience. There is plenty of fear-mongering on both sides. The CDC, FDA, NIH and big Pharma are guilty of disinformation and the politicization of science, but so are many of the opponents, particularly celebrity doctors such as Dr. Oz and Mercola and activists like Mike Adams.

I have spent and continue to spend much effort studying immunology, and in my opinion the science supports the benefits of vaccination (even though I personally feel some biomedical scientists are getting carried away and spending too much effort on vaccinations instead of other medical approaches).

I should add I despise the attitude of public health care officials and this mass medication obsession.

The problem isn't the vaccine, per se...

it's the additives used to mass produce and store the vaccines to make a profit. This compromise is unacceptable and where the FDA fails miserably.

And now that the population has been brainwashed to belive any and all vaccines are safe and necessary. We are seeing vaccines for diseases once thought relatively rare and certainly not life threatening.

Shingles, for example...a vaccine is needed, really? Chicken pox, for example...another vaccine is needed for children, really? The flu, for example...really? I have had the flu several times in my life...it wasn't pleasant but I do believe having the virus enhanced my immune system WITHOUT the added detrimental effects of metals and other neurotoxins.

These are examples of greed...money isn't everything yet those pushing these drugs act as though it is the very essence of life. Do they realize they can't take it with them?

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Thimerosal

Thimerosal is the preservative used in vaccines. The letters "mer" in the middle of the word stand for mercury. Thimerosal is 50% mercury.

Injecting mercury into kids is criminal and should lead to mass arrests and civil lawsuits. This doesn't happen because big pharma and government work together.

I don't disagree necessarily

but, the dosage of thimersal when it is used as a perservative in a concetration of 0.01%, or 25 micrograms per 0.5 mL dose. That is a very small amount has shown to be safe in toxicity studies.

Plus thimersal is no longer used in the vast majority of vaccines. If this chemical was being blamed for cuasing autism and is no longer used and autism is still occuring, people need to find a new mechanism.

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability...

egapele's picture

It is the heaviest portion of the vaccine mixture

and falls to the bottom of the vial, causing some doses to become more concentrated than others.

And it is still being used. This, from Wikipedia:

"Although thiomersal was largely removed from routine infant vaccines by summer 2001 in the U.S.,[6] some vaccines continue to contain non-trace amounts of thiomersal, mainly in multi-dose vaccines targeted against influenza and tetanus.[20]

That is ONLY for 1 dose

You said - "25 mcg per dose". How many shots do children get -- only one???

By age two, American children have received 237 micrograms of mercury through vaccines alone, which far exceeds current EPA "safe" levels of .1 mcg/kg. per day.

You're intentionally misrepresenting the facts to defend big pharma and all the pseudoscience that they spew.

Remember all the "science" that came out of the tobacco industry claiming that there is no scientific evidence that smoking causes cancer?

You're pretending to use science in order to justify kids getting mercury into their brain tissue.

You posted a link by the FDA which claims safety, when everyone knows that the FDA is full of shit.

Supporting your position ...

... a recent study shows a strong correlation between increased number of vaccines and infant death and hospitalization.

http://het.sagepub.com/content/31/10/1012.full

This can only be explained by the cumulative effect of additional vaccines.

This does not address autism, but it does address the cumulative effect issue.

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SteveMT's picture

The rates are much lower in Amish than the general population.

Vaccines seem to play at least a contributing role in autism. Why not study it further?

Pediatric Journal Seeks to Increase Autism Rate Among ‘Underimmunized’ Amish
Posted on June 28, 2011 by The Refusers
http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/pediatric-journal-s...

egapele's picture

Amish are also less prone to allergies.

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The evidence is that it's extremely LOW among the amish

Some Amish ARE vaccinated but very few. Some are adopted as well.

Here is an article stating an eye witness account of a doctor who treats a community of Amish.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/04/olmsted-on-autism-1-in-10...

Honestly! Even the study you provided could only find 3....and they didn't state to what degree they were autistic.

I must ask

Your motivation. Is it for the truth or do you have a vested interest in vaccines? Please be honest.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

So, they had a rate of 1/271

and every child in the group was screened. The rate in the general public is 1/88 and not every child is screened. This is still statistically significant.

It wouldn't be a vaccine discussion without this question

that I somehow have a vested interest in vaccines. Usually after my first comment someone directly accuses me of having some connection to big Pharma or the government.

Nope. I have no connection whatsover to anything. I'm just trying to dispel pseudoscience I come across. The anti-vaccine movement is loaded with it.

If there is a NaturalNews article involved, there is a 100% chance that there will be ample pseudoscience being thrown around.

**Edit**

WTF three downvotes for linking to a study that actually demonstrates that the Amish are in fact diagnosed with Autism? Are you fanatical anti-vaccination people so convinced of your position that you will automatically reject ANY evidence that contradicts your preconceived notions about vaccines?

It is a fair question

Isn't it. I have a four year old grandson that may never speak. He was healthy as could be one day and looked like he was in a coma the next. Yes, it was after a series of about six shots. So throw out the Natural News reference. I personally do not need to cite any of their information. I have first hand knowledge .

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

BTW

I did not vote you down but having a member of your family robbed of their future tends to make one a little fanatical.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

I also got a series of vaccines.

And did NOT develop autism.

How long was it in between his shots and this "coma?"

What did the pediatrician say about it?

The number and frequency of shots you got

does NOT equal what they give kids today. Ask ANY mother.

I got maybe 3 to 5 shots by the time I was 6.

My kids were required to get that in just the first two months of life. They are adding more and more vaccines every year. An additional Whooping Cough is added requirement at schools starting last year even if you'd had it previously. They want to add Gardisil shot for boys and girls.

They have lots of vaccines currently in the works and pharmaceutical companies have no motivation for stopping or being conservative on their recomendations.

Bottom line....they are not giving these kids the shots that we got.

Some people smoke and never get cancer.

Therefore smoking does not cause cancer?

currently they requre 22 doses before 5 years old and add

another 5 shots for the flu each year if your doctor tells you too. Oh and don't forget the 3 shots of rotovirus and 2 for hepatitis A, 2 for Meningitis and the 4 doses for Pneumococcal Disease.

so lets see...how much is that all together before the age of 5?

That's ****38 SHOTS**** if you are a "good mother" and do everything the doctor says.

Exactly

I feel so sorry for young parents. The pressure is enourmous. Then after you do what you think is the right thing you are left with guilt that you didn't intervene and save your child.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain