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Do vaccines cause autism? Rep. Carolyn Maloney grills CDC in Congressional inquiry

Do vaccines cause autism? Rep. Carolyn Maloney grills the CDC over the practice of injecting babies and infants with multiple vaccines all at once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzy5oFwA1ik&feature=player_em...

FACT: The CDC openly admits that vaccines contain mercury, aluminum, MSG and formaldehyde. All of these are neurotoxic chemicals or metals. Read more at:

http://www.naturalnews.com/037653_vaccine_additives_thimeros...

I think this woman is courageous and deserves some of our thanks.

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It is absolutley

Disgusting what they do to a newborn these day. Shots immediatly and gobs of eye ointment. It's usually an antibiotic (tetracycline or erythromycin) but some places still use silver nitrate. Tetracycline is thought to be the least irritating to a sensitive newborn's eyes. It's intended to protect the baby's eyes from being infected by syphilis, gonorrhea, or chlamydia -- all things that should have been tested for during pregnancy. When this infects a baby's eye during delivery, it can cause pink eye/conjunctivitis . A newborn can't even see its Mother.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Okay but the issue at hand is whether vaccines cause autism

This claim was made decades ago. It is so hard to talk about thia issue directly because people keep brining side issues into it (many of which I agree with)

I don't see your point

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Prove that they DON'T cause Autism

Ya can't of course. I'm just pointing out 1 and 1 probably add up to 2. Why not do several large independent studies on it? No money thats why. Pharma is not going to pay for a study that will cut out their cash cow. In the mean time stop trying to subvert the issue just because you have problems with natural news or what ever. This is not psydo science. These are real peoples lives destroyed. There are countless stories....virtually every mother of an autistic child has a story of how sudden autism came on usually after a series of shots causing fever and sometimes convulsions.

Don't dismiss these people just because you have a vendetta against mike adams or whoever he is.

It's not 1 + 1.

The study that is cited over and over again was retracted.

Look at the studies that demonstrate no plausible link between autism and vaccines.

http://www.autismsciencefoundation.org/autismandvaccines.html

Ok I have a job for you

1. Scour high and low to find where there is a study that has been done of a non-vaccination population vs a recommended schedule vaccinated population. None of the ones you gave me have that.

2. go get a vaccine insert and read it. Now tell me what the possible side effects are.

you might find possible brain swelling and neurological problems on there including Guillain-Barre syndrome. You might think swelling of a brain and the resulting seizures might have a lasting effect on the brain. Oh but in no way could autism be linked (sarc)

This study is as close as I found...

It evaluated people diagnosed with autism who were born before the MMR vaccine was introduced.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071313/

**Although I concede that this argument that it is "unethical to study children who are not-vaccinated" is total bullshit.

This is the same argument the water-fluoridation maniacs use to justify their mass medication.

My interest is peaked and I do not accept this premise.

I don't think the mmr vaccine is the sole culprit.

I think vaccines can have a cumulative effect especially in individuals who are unable to rid themselves of heavy metals over time. That biological inability is likely a genetic predisposition that some people are born with.

I think the flu vaccine can have just as devastating effects as any childhood vaccine, especially as people are expected to get them yearly and indefinitely.

Now I concede that this is all my suspicion and not proven although I have seen anecdotal evidence myself in several children as well as some elderly adults. Which is why I too wish that we would see a proper study of large populations of those vaccinated compared to those who aren't. We have those controlled populations in America readily available now be it the Amish or homeschooling or other non-vaccinated families.

I appreciate your ability to keep an open mind to consider it further. That's not easy for many of us to do, but something we should all strive for.

Give People all the Information

Let them make an informed choice. Parents are pressured and forced to vaccinate their children and people are losing their jobs if they dont. Enough.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Pseudoscience

Doctors distrust big pharma-backed research. Pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer and GlaxoKlineSmith might be responsible for some of the largest breakthroughs in prescription drugs, but doctors aren't buying much of the research they fund. Researchers from Harvard Medical school asked physicians to rate the credibility of research abstracts...

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2012/09/doctors-do...

yep

do a health study on kids vaccinated fully vs those who've never been vaccinated.

There's a reason why they won't do that study.

Vaccines

for many years have been given to babies for whooping cough, measles,etc. with no problems. Small pox vaccine was always required for entrance into the United States. What I have noticed is today expectant mothers are given drugs during pregnancy and even when they are in labor. Everything ingested goes directly to the fetus. I believe this is more likely to be the culprit.

We are in another war for our Independence.

I would not jump to conclusions

Ammount of chemicals added to our daily food, shampoo, toothpaste, detergent may be put to shame those in vaccines.

Just give you two examples to curb hystera.

1) After USA had banned smoking in restaurants, public, and office buildings, second-hand smoking effect for households whose members do not smoke is gone. Nevertheless, the number of women dying from lung cancer did not go down. .....

2) Number of hysteria cases amoung young working women that is qualified for psychiatric treatment is 8-10 times more in USA than in any other country. .....

As a lay person, for the latter, I can only suggest - it is the effect of affirmative-action. Incompetent people occupy positions at which they cannot actually perform.

a child of 1 1/2 to 2 years old doesn't use many products

a child of 1 1/2 to 2 years old doesn't use many of those products nor to they eat copious amounts of GMO. They just haven't had long enough exposure.

What they do get is loads of vaccines accumulating from birth. Isn't that the obvious place to begin looking?

Aw, shucks. Organ grinders know little 'bout whooping cough!

I don't buy the rhetoric selling vaccines. Our human body naturally deals with harmful bacteria & virus in our nose all day long, every day. Shooting bacteria or virus extracts into our arm does harm. And delivers to the wrong address... to where the body is less capable to neutralize them. We need not neutralize them by direct injection into our blood stream.

I do not accept medical advise from organ grinders nor their money. Those selling "epidemic" or "pandemic" proportions outsize their worth. Monkey business. Nor anyone else named "Mark Twain." All talk; no hat.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Twain

I do truly love you:)

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Oh yes

Nothing like seeing a crooked doctor in the hot seat.

So sad seeing above average intelligence people fall away. Must be their lack of faith and trust in the dollar.

My doctor passed away, he was a critic of Jesus and died of liver disease as I recall, the next one I will have I will thoroughly vet before hand ie. including a questionnaire.

donvino

Want to know in reality?

Force vaccinate some of the CDC's Top employees' children or grandchildren.

I worked for the CDC for 3 years, on the Vaccines for Children Program, and can tell you all straight up, the CDC does not know if they are encouraging autism with the cocktails they are promoting, but they do know that the more FREE vaccines they are to distribute, the more money they will get. Oddly enough a FREE vaccine from the CDC is several times more than one you can buy at a pharmacy, go figure . . .

I've never taken a Flu Vaccine and in fact while at the CDC I was informed that a Flu Vaccine will not prevent the Flu, it MIGHT lessen the symptoms though.

Washing your hands a dozen times a day when in the proximity of sick people WILL PREVENT the Flu in most cases.

The CDC suffers from the same Central Planning (one size fits all) problems as the rest of the Gov't does. Start Force Vaccinating those who the CDC executives actually care about (family) and we will find the real answer.

Thank you Secular

For weighing in with your first hand knowledge. Appreciate your insight.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Thank you Representative Maloney!

And thanks for the post, celeste. I don't know if it's changed, but the way they used to "test" vaccines, the so-called "control group" did NOT receive a genuine placebo, but a vaccine CONTAINING all of the vaccine's secondary (non-disease-related) ingredients, i.e., formaldehyde and others. In other words, the effects of those other ingredients were NOT tested. The tests have been BOGUS.

Furthermore, I don't know if it works the same way, but when there was a county meeting on the effects of toxic lawn chemicals, a representative from Cornell Cooperative Extension confirmed that when these chemicals were "tested" for any deleterious effects, although in practice they were used *together*, these pesticides, herbicides, & fertilizers were tested individually. Plus, there were no longitudinal studies. So they were/are NOT tested for any synergistic effects, nor longer-term effects.

Are these vaccines a) tested with bona fide control groups (receiving NOTHING), and b) tested IN THE WAY they are routinely administered, that is, six or more administered TOGETHER, and also tested to include the multiple GROUPS administered every few months, as well as over a longer period of time? Aside from the horror stories of virtual overnight transformations of normal, healthy children into seriously disabled children, I'd want to know of ANY effects for as long as children's BRAINS, for one, were still developing, which lasts into teen years. This issue is a travesty.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Your post is thoughtful & well informed. Thank you.

And in addition...

Our natural response to neutralize harmful bacteria or virus is most potent in our nose; not our harm. Shooting arms is wrongheaded. Even a blind man can see. Even a double blind man.

Most all rates of severe sickness due to common pathogens were in rapid decline as nutrition & hygiene improved in the late 1800s, early 1900s.

And further more, restating, for those "hard of understanding..."
Our natural response to neutralize harmful bacteria or virus has:

  • No waiting ; our natural response time is sub second.
  • No premium. Low risk.
  • No deductible. Harmless.
  • No study necessary.

Simple common sense.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

thanks celeste for the link

and I will ring Carolyn up and thank her for her work. For bringing it into the public debate. I am always looking for the connection in what we put in our body and our health. The argument is that we must place a concoction of dead/active germs into our body via a toxic carrier to prevent us from getting sick (to build immunity)and I see a lot of sick folks. The rash and headache we get after the shot is our body trying to reject the poison. We get confused and visit more doctors and they "treat" us more and the spiral continues. Down

I think it is junk food. And the medical folks look at our failing health and think we need another toxin in our body to make us well. And of course it pays well too. Not enough good fats and moderate protein and way too many carbs and processed foods. I can't argue that they don't taste good and they are killing us.

thedoctorisin

Vaccines w/ deadly poisons are not much active anymore.

The deadly concoction you refer to kills most life in the bottle before it goes anywhere. Things labeled "preservative" benefit the bottled ingredients shelf life; not the patient. Some might call them poison. Other might call them necessary to kill contaminates. Yet, others might mention it is absurd to preserve an arm, whilst harming the body with the shock of these concoctions.

This Congress madam sends mixed messages. "Totally in favor..."
Yet, she questions frequency. Her own statement of totality is in question.

I know not what course others may choose; but, as for me... give me liberty - 0r... [drum roll] - ... No, no, no. I want no preservative!

Vaccines as a shot to the arm are folly. The body's natural path for controlling harmful bacteria or virus is concentrated in the nose. Capable of sub second response. The stomach will also disable most live pathogens. No waiting. No deductible.

Vaccines injected in these modern times primarily benefit the provider; not the patient. Look to history to see if ever there was a benefit that outweighed the harm.

"Do no harm." - Hippocrates

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Thank you, I called too

It looks like Whooping Cough is reaching epidemic proportions and most who have it have been vaccinated. The thought is now that they are actully spreading it through the shots.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/07/3...

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

These claims are not true.

Whooping cough is not reaching "epidemic proportions," to begin with, let alone because of the pertussis vaccine. Even Dr. "buymyvitamins and potions" Mercola doesn't make this claim.

If you actually read the study the study he cited, it says that the current schedule for the acellular vaccine may not be as effective as previously thought. It is not claiming that the vaccines are "spreading the disease."

http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/03/13/cid.c...

The anti-vaccine fanatics always seem to ignore the glaring fact that thousands of children in the US used to die every year because of whooping cough, and now the number has dwindled to a few dozen a year. No one is saying that the pertussis vaccines are 100% of effective. Nothing in medicine is 100% effective. (Except eventual death regardless of any and all medical treatments).

Here is a CDC study showing vaccination in Israel

where the vaccinated kids were spreading the whooping cough around.

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article.htm

Abstract.
We tested 46 fully vaccinated children in two day-care centers in Israel who were exposed to a fatal case of pertussis infection. Only two of five children who tested positive for Bordetella pertussis met the World Health Organization's case definition for pertussis. Vaccinated children may be asymptomatic reservoirs for infection.

I think the government is pushing the term "epidemic" to get more vaccination. I've seen the ads around town for whooping cough shots.

You are wrong-It is epidemic

"The Washington State Department of Health has released a statement stating that they are in the midst of a whooping cough epidemic, which will likely reach its highest levels in decades. So far this year there have been 640 cases, compared to 94 cases over the same time period last year. This is a dramatic increase.
Pertussis Epidemic 2012

"Washington is in the middle of a whooping cough (pertussis) epidemic. Whooping cough spreads easily by coughing and sneezing. It is a very serious illness for babies and children. Vaccination is the best protection against whooping cough. "

http://www.doh.wa.gov/YouandYourFamily/IllnessandDisease/Who...

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Okay now you are changing the context

Epidemic is a concept often misunderstood. Locally in Washington there is a relative epidemic, but you didn't say a location. And the DOH oroposes vaccines as a solution, not a cause.

Which is it?

Its not just in Washington

It was epidemic in Ca in 2010 and its coming soon to a town near you. Just because the DOH tells me vaccines are the solution doesn't mean I'm buying. I was just showing you that they acknowledge its out of control on their own site.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ColdandFlu/whooping-cough-epide...

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Better Yet the whole US

Whooping Cough: Worst Year For Pertussis In 5 Decades, CDC Says
ATLANTA -- The U.S. appears headed for its worst year for whooping cough in more than five decades, with the number of cases rising at an epidemic rate that experts say may reflect a problem with the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Nearly 18,000 cases have been reported so far – more than twice the number seen at this point last year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday. At this pace, the number for the entire year will be the highest since 1959, when 40,000 illnesses were reported.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/whooping-cough-pert...

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

This is fear mongering by the CDC in my opinion

I'm not saying our government doesn't exaggerate. I'm not defending them.

I'm defending the science behind vaccinations against what I feel is pseudoscience quackery, a specialty of Mike Adams.