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Dick Armey Quits Freedomworks

Sounds like he is not leaving on friendly terms.


"The top management team of FreedomWorks was taking a direction I thought was unproductive, and I thought it was time to move on with my life," Armey tells Mother Jones. "At this point, I don't want to get into the details. I just want to go on with my life."

In the email, Armey indicated that he wants nothing to do with FreedomWorks any more. He asked that all user names, passwords, and security-related data created in his name be emailed to him by the close of business on December 4. He even insisted that FreedomWorks—"effective immediately"—was "prohibited" from using a booklet he authored.

Was Armey's resignation a reaction to the recent election results? "Obviously I was not happy with the election results," he says. "We might've gotten better results if we had gone in a different direction. But it isn't that I got my nose out of line because we should've done better."


Washington Post article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2012/12...

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Dick Armey stinks on ice

He was a major player in derailing the Tea Party movement.
He spent the crucial months before the Iowa caucuses making sure that the "Tea Party" didn't throw their support behind Ron Paul. And when Ron Paul looked like he might actually win the Iowa straw poll, he gave the nod to The man the establishment had picked to be their anti-Romney candidate, Santorum.

The Koch brothers have played the same role for the conservative movemtn in general, keeping them distracted by big government neocons wrapped in a social censervative candy coating.

With friends like these, the liberty movement doesn't need any enemies.

The Virtual Conspiracy


I can see him there giving his analysis and opinions. He would fit right in I think.


The Kochs are on our side

Obama is in charge now. We need money and power to stand up to Marxism. They may have warts but they are superior to Maoist in the White House. I am intrigued by why Army is gone. Was he too conservative or not conservative enough?

From Lew Rockwell on

From Lew Rockwell on Facebook~

Lew Rockwell ~
Don't feel bad for economist-lobbyist Dick Armey. Though the Koch Bros. fired him from their Tea Party-front group Freedomworks, he is getting an $8 million bonus. BTW, when he lost his coup attempt against Newt, and left to become a full-time lobbyist, Armey--with a dirt-eating grin on his face--proclaimed to fellow congressmen that he was "starting at more than $1 million a year." Though those were 2003 dollars, he has done even better. There's prosperity in being a "libertarian" for the oligarchy and its Republican party.

Blessings )o(

Libertarians are going to have to stop being

such egotistical mules' butts if they ever want to amount to anything in this country. Slamming CATO, Freedomworks, and the Kochs just because they open themselves up to a more broad, ideological, fiscally-conservative tent is a recipe for disaster, especially when more than 50% of the country now favors socialism. Just because someone isn't as perfect as you are doesn't mean they aren't and can't be a useful ally.

"The truth is that neither British nor American imperialism was or is idealistic. It has always been driven by economic or strategic interests." - Charlie Reese

I slam them because they

I slam them because they slammed us and Ron Paul when we needed all the support we could get. By the way, you forgot Reason in that group too. Anyhow, I would be open to an amicable relationship if they ever were up to supporting the causes we hold dear like foreign policy and states rights, nullification, etc. Maybe you weren't around when they were on the front lines bashing Ron Paul and giving him 0 support.

Just because an organization or individual didn't

didn't support Ron Paul doesn't make them our enemies. We've got enough enemies in Progressives and liberal Republicans. There aren't but about two million of us and about two hundred thousand aren't really any help to us 'cause they just jumped on board for "pot and peace" and are really Progressives at heart.

I don't remember those organizations bashing RP btw. Sure, I know there are some columnists at Reason and CATO that don't like Paul's pro-life views, but, at least they're strong on most other issues.

"The truth is that neither British nor American imperialism was or is idealistic. It has always been driven by economic or strategic interests." - Charlie Reese

Too much purity

will cause a heart attack - but agree the unwillingness to just slightly move is very important to win.

Most of us won't compromise

Most of us won't compromise on foreign policy and civil liberties. I'd rather compromise on a social safety net for the very poor than on world empire, wouldn't you?

Ventura 2012

You don't have to compromise.

But, I would rather work with people to get meaningful entitlement reform and safety net scale back than be nothing but a criticizing purist and get nothing rolled back regarding our empire and intrusions on civil liberties and nothing in the way of domestic spending either.

"The truth is that neither British nor American imperialism was or is idealistic. It has always been driven by economic or strategic interests." - Charlie Reese

The problem with your

The problem with your thinking is that it does not jive with history. Warmongers cannont be trusted because they are psychopaths do not value human life. The Bush years taught us that. Also, when war is legitimized, civil liberties violations *ALWAYS* tag along. Furthermore, something as shocking to the human psyche as war makes people unable to focus on other issues. This is why you still have so many single-issue neo-con hawk VOTERS in the GOP. And this is why it took an economic collapse plunging people into abject poverty to make the economy an overriding issue again, but don't think another terror attack won't shut those Hawkish "fiscal conservatives" like DeMint right up. I really feel like people forgot the last century of US history sometimes.

Ventura 2012

I don't know what you're talking about.

You seem to be implying that if people or an organization don't agree with you on every issue then, you can't work with them in the issues you do agree on - such as taxes or cutting spending. If Ron Paul had taken that attitude, he would have never been able to bring himself to work with Kucinuch on issues they have common ground on because of Kucinich being a fiscal statist.

"The truth is that neither British nor American imperialism was or is idealistic. It has always been driven by economic or strategic interests." - Charlie Reese

Strange fallacy of composition...

It seems a lot more like I'm saying that you can't work with warmongers...also the legislative context is a lot different than choosing grassroots PAC leaders that set agendas and priorities for the whole movement.

Ventura 2012


I would trade any of our Alex Jones populist, Blue Republican, Army veteran (who came because RP promissed to take care of him and his stress disorder) for Dick Armey any time.

Was he the House majority

Was he the House majority leader that rammed the patriot act and military commissions act through? With "supporters" like you, who needs enemies?

Ventura 2012


Agreed. But you won't get very far round here with that view. You should try moving to the Ron Paul Forums, people there seem a lot less crazy and a lot more genuinely conservative. A lot less 'Brother Winston' types.

I wouldn't be so critical of Jones though. Most of what he says is complete crap, but he is helpful in spreading the liberty message. It's always nice to have a conservative radio talk show host on our side.

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Alex Jones is a disinfo agent

And by the looks of your profile, you are one too.

God, you love Alex Jones so much. ... You must be gay for him??

Why not go and troll the Alex Jones forums, not us. ... This is a Ron Paul forum. And it looks like you know nothing about freedom

Just like the informer Alex Jones. Hal Turner was proved to be one, and Jones is his replacement. And you know it!

If I may chime in for a moment

You calling people disinfo agents based on scant evidence is no better than the AJ shills who go around calling people Zionist operatives when someone criticizes their dear leader.

I'm not a fan of AJ, but I also can't deny that he's helped "wake" some folk. That said, I feel he uses that "knowledge" to get newly (half) "awake" folk to chase ghosts, much like Glen beck. Personally, I don't trust any single news source 100%.

A signature used to be here!

I'm defending Alex Jones

I'm defending Alex Jones because even though I thought him to be a nut like the rest before, he recently stood up in support of Israel, which has earned him much condemnation on this site and others like it. I've criticized AJ in many posts for his support of dumb mind control theories that continue to relegate our movement to the fringe. The reason I don't like you, is that you're even more extreme than Alex Jones.

Support Rand, Amash & other liberty candidates? Check out: http://www.LibertyConservatives.com/

So your true colours show then troll?

Lol! ... I can see that you have no views that are in line with Ron Paul.

You support AJ, and you are not a Patriot.

How wonderful.

Do you also co-ordinate your Pro-Alex-Jones activities with others?

We all know that Alex Jones movement is designed to subvert Ron Paul.


The globalist movement, of

The globalist movement, of which you are a part, given your strong support for the United Nations, is hell-bent upon destroying liberty. You are not a Ron Paul supporter, you are a Ban Ki Moon supporter.

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I feel that I am having an argument with a complete idiot

so I shall stop.

You clearly are incapable of having a rational debate.

Freedomworks was started up by the Koch brothers.

I won't have anything to do with it.

Blue Republican?


Freedom Works is no longer affiliated with the Koch brothers

Aren't the Koch's hardcore libertarians? When one of them ran for vice president on the libertarian ticket, he openly called for legalizing prostitution. That's one of the most hardcore libertarian stances a politician can take. Not even Ron Paul called for that.

For the record though, the Koch brothers and their oil empire no longer funds Freedomworks, much like they no longer fund CATO since CATO prides itself in independence and refused to do what they wanted.

and why would cato pride its independence from koch

if they felt they were offering proper guidance? you are so naive

i guess freedomworks is severing its ties from dick armey because they mutually yearned for 'independence'.. lol.

"Aren't the Koch's hardcore

"Aren't the Koch's hardcore libertarians?"

No * 1,000,000. They're beltway state-apologists.


"started up" was what she wrote

Freedomworks are more into promoting the Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin and Glen Beck sorts. As far as promoting candidates...everything with an R beside their name....except Ron Paul.

Do not confuse

our POLITICAL opponents with our IDEOLOGICAL ones.

Example #1: free market capitalism rarely occupies a blue republican's mind.

Example #2: many among neo-cons fiscal conservatives liked RP better than Romney but saw contradictions among RP young supporters. Let me explain:

Outsiders understood that under free-market capitalism, bankers, Jews and secret societies would not be harmed. Only partnership with government would be severed. When these outsiders saw that RP supporters were mostly barking against bankers, Zionists and secret societies, it became clear - we (RP supporters) either do not understand free society or have another agenda.

One Down

It's about time that Freedom Works started to get rid of the Neocons within the Tea Party. Now to get rid of the rest of them and move this country back to its Founding Principles.

"Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth. "
— William Faulkner