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McCain Sides With Democrats, Says Rand Paul Is Bolstering Case For Filibuster Reform By Blocking The NDAA

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) said Tuesday on the Senate floor that Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) efforts to block the National Defense Authorization Act validates Democrats’ arguments for reforming the filibuster.

“I find it disappointing that one member of the United States Senate feels that his particular agenda is so important that it affects the lives and the readiness and the capabilities of the men and women who are serving in the military and our ability to defend this nation,” McCain said. “I think it’s hard to answer to the men and women in the military with this kind of behavior, but I will leave that up to the senator from Kentucky to do so.”

Paul said he would filibuster the NDAA unless an amendment guaranteeing the right to a trial for Americans accused of terrorism went up for a vote in the Senate.

McCain said the hold “lends some credence to the argument that maybe we ought not to do business the way that we are doing it here in the United States Senate,” McCain said.

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if there's one thing i

if there's one thing i despise, it's people who talk as if what they say is fact. mccain is one of them.

Garan's picture

Enough McCain. What about Rand?

I see a ton of comments against McCain.
So, o.k., people hate em.

Why isn't anyone commenting on (if I read the article correctly) on Rand quickly and quietly backing down?

What about that?

Correct me if I am wrong.

"After McCain singled out

"After McCain singled out 'the senator from Kentucky,' Paul’s office said that as of mid-Monday he had no specific objections to the bill."

I don't want to bash the guy but I just can't get excited over him.

Cyril's picture

Retreat isn't necessarily surrendering

A retreat doesn't imply it is permanent and for surrendering.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Debbie's picture

George Washington used attrition on the British. He wanted

to go all out on the offense, but had to save his men to fight another day. We know who won.

Debbie

Garan's picture

Thanks. It's interesting though..

I asked a neutral question; prompting people to comment about Rand in addition to McCain, simply because I wanted to know more about Rand's actions.

The responses were along the lines of Rand's strategy. Good.

Yet, some people thought my question was bad enough to vote it down?
I guess I'm a liberty lover that doesn't follow the crowd.
Go figure.

I am more interested in understanding Rand then adding to the heap of hating McCain.

I don't like McCain.
I just don't want to spend time belaboring him.

More Rand, please.

Cyril's picture

(Just FYI. I didn't vote you up or down.)

(Just FYI. I didn't vote you up or down.)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

McCain never lets a chance

McCain never lets a chance for restraining governmental power serve as a pretext for hiding behind the necessity of defense and thus the continuation of governmental growth. In his view, protection of the basic rights of due process is too onerous for the objects he envisions are defensive in nature and necessarily required to the point that this country should resemble those countries he declaims are tyrannies in need of US intervention for implementation of those rights which are denied to Americans!

malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

I am an aristocrat. I love liberty; I hate equality. - John Randolph of Roanoke

So what is the deal

Rand Filabusterd then voted for it? Did he ever get his amendment?

This is great for Rand!

No one likes this NDAA, Patriot act, security state bullshit! I love that Rand will be the lone voice in the wilderness. Imagine if Ron had been in the senate with the bright lights standing up for the constitution all those years. Do they honestly think that Rand will look bad for this! A star is rising in the senate folks. Keep protecting our liberty in these dark times Rand..you will be loved.

To McCain

“I think it’s hard to answer to the men and women in the military with this kind of behavior, but I will leave that up to the senator from Kentucky to do so.”

Well way more men and women in the military supported the father of the senator from Kentucky to be President(who was running against you Sen.McCain) and I believe they stand together on this issue. So that's not going to be a problem Johnny.
You go tell them that you want to throw away the rights that they are sworn to defend and see how that goes.

Support the troops!

Then destroy what the are fighting for in the same breath!??
Sheesh! ;-(

Did anyone ever doubt

McCain is a Democrat? That's why the leftist MSM annointed him the GOP "frontrunner" in '08. It's so nice of the commie news shills to pick the "conservative" candidates for us.

Mr. "Forrestal" McCain

can bite it. Stoopid fecker!

No surprise here....

What would the Founders do?

McCain, Graham, Boehner are

McCain, Graham, Boehner are Democrats.

They just don't know it yet.

Alien?

I think McCain might be an alien. Seriously...

real news should be that

real news should be that mccain is in the republican party...

Song Bird Johnny - Earned That Moniker

And his Daddy the Admiral was the reason why the

USS LIBERTY debacle was covered up

Song Bird Johnny crashed at least 3 planes - anybody else crashes 1 plane due to pilot error and fly no more , but not old hero Song Bird Johnny - the Rat Bastaard

"You Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come"

So wait...

The Senate doesn't like indefinite detention? Thats what Rand Paul has put them under.

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McInsane hates Rand Paul? Reason enough to send Rand some cash.

McCain disgusts me. John McCain burned through any possible goodwill he earned as a member of our armed services years ago. The only reason he got any votes at all in 2008 was because Sarah Palin was his running mate. That's why my neocon parents voted for that ticket. They recruited her as a token, and must have been appalled that she was far more popular and well-liked than he was. So the SOB's campaign team treated her like sh*t, gleefully throwing her under the bus when he lost to Obummer.

John McCain's disgust with Rand Paul (and the Constitution, which he has never read) is reason enough for me to send Rand Paul some financial love for his re-election campaign.

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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McCain again sides with Democrats

McCain also voted with Democrats today to approve another UN treaty. This treaty would have required our government to list disabled Americans and perhaps dictate aspects of their care.

I agree - John McCain, Lindsay Graham and Joe Lieberman...

...should be arrested and tried for treason against the United States.

When the oath says "enemies both foreign AND DOMESTIC," it is A-Holes like THEM who it is talking about.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Word.

These people are the WORST of the infiltrators and assassins of our freedom.

What would the Founders do?

It is not treason it is

It is not treason it is called PERJURY.

Read towards the bottom of sec 9...

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=01...

And King Obama is guilty of perjury.

All this controversy over a stupid chicken sandwich.

If you don't like filabusters, then don't eat at Chic-Fil-A.

It's really that simple.

Pandas eat bugs.

Where the heck did this comment come from...

...(its spelled Chick-fil-A) maybe you've been reading month old articles recently...LOL

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"(its spelled

"(its spelled Chick-fil-A)"

Nobody cares.

Sorry...

...I guess it just bugs me cuz I work there.

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You're right. I get confused sometimes. Oops!

I was thinking about the Filibuster Parfait at Dairy Queen...

Pandas eat bugs.

"I find it disappointing..."

that we haven't arrested John McCain yet. Or Lindsay Graham or Joe Lieberman.

These men, by definition, are traitors to their Country. Our Country.

They continue to WALK FREE with interest.

WHEN IS IT TIME to get these men, with or without the police, in jail?

I wish we could all get on the same page and ACT.

Veterans for Ron Paul

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.