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Cops to Congress: We need logs of Americans' text messages

State and local law enforcement groups want wireless providers to store detailed information about your SMS messages for at least two years -- in case they're needed for future criminal investigations.

CNET News: AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, and other wireless providers would be required to record and store information about Americans' private text messages for at least two years, according to a proposal that police have submitted to the U.S. Congress.

CNET has learned a constellation of law enforcement groups has asked the U.S. Senate to require that wireless companies retain that information, warning that the lack of a current federal requirement "can hinder law enforcement investigations."

They want an SMS retention requirement to be "considered" during congressional discussions over updating a 1986 privacy law for the cloud computing era -- a move that could complicate debate over the measure and erode support for it among civil libertarians.

As the popularity of text messages has exploded in recent years, so has their use in criminal investigations and civil lawsuits. They have been introduced as evidence in armed robbery, cocaine distribution, and wire fraud prosecutions. In one 2009 case in Michigan, wireless provider SkyTel turned over the contents of 626,638 SMS messages, a figure described by a federal judge as "staggering."

Chuck DeWitt, a spokesman for the Major Cities Chiefs Police Association, which represents the 63 largest U.S. police forces including New York City, Los Angeles, Miami, and Chicago, said "all such records should be retained for two years." Some providers, like Verizon, retain the contents of SMS messages for a brief period of time, while others like T-Mobile do not store them at all.

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Mark Twain to Police: Do you research the source of money?

Where does your money come from?

  • Taxpayers
    • Local
    • State (beggar thy neighbor)
    • Federal (beggar his neighbor)
    • International (...)
    • Business
  • Repossessions
  • Confiscations
  • Charity fund raisers

With our economy in a fix... Few saving for tomorrow, where does bank money come from?

Why is it that TSA is so well funded? So rapidly expanding?
Has TSA searched?: "Honest Money" vs "Dishonest Money"

Have you?

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

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I was pretty sure to find Los Angeles listed for this

I was pretty sure to find Los Angeles listed for this sort of request :

http://www.dailypaul.com/265218/welcome-to-san-burning-down-...

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

The better to

shake down the slaves.

Another Example...

...of the never ceasing, ever increasing call from 'law enforcement' for additional powers.

Makes...me...puke-sick.

Nothing and nobody blocks it, they simply seek ways around that pesky old Constitution so that the desired extra and anti-constitutional government activity can advance and continue.

Do 'we' get the concept yet? Do 'we' see the inevitable result of collectivism, yet?

Nope, not many.

And so it goes...

Yours first

I think we should get logs of all of their private texts and emails before considering their request.

We have got to...

INSIST our representatives (inclusive) respect and uphold the Constitution as they swore an oath to do! A computer or phone or whatever form of communication is used, should be considered the same as papers. The Bill of Rights handles this for us.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons,
houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches
and seizures, shall not be violated…..
— Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

Since Americans are giving up on cops

its kind of like if you don't call us...we'll call you.

I wouldn't all the cops to help me if I was being attacked by a gang. Why call in more thugs to beat the hell out me?

The cops are losing their jobs to budget cuts and the people no longer trust them so they are doing like the FBI and are going to start solving "Pre-Crimes" to prove their "Value".

If you are not an Oath Keeper you should be fired from the police force.

What police----where---who?

...are they talking about...what state, what city, where is the document requesting such an outrageous thing.

Police and FBI and CIA agents need to have "just cause" and a "warrant" before they snoop into American citizen's information...PERIOD, END OF STORY....none of this government to government permission b.s.

Maybe, just maybe

instead of promoting more police activity to chase down our every method of communication (and allowing them to invade our privacy at every turn)... maybe we could find a way to actually reduce the crime that takes place. After all, the police don't actually stop much crime. They mostly get involved to find whom to blame and punish them.

If the world's economies didn't send 60% of their GDPs to the banks, I'm pretty sure that there would be more equality and I tend to think that would lead to less crime.

Bonus: If so, we could then eliminate most of the police function and expense and become even wealthier still.

This is theater.. They already save those

texts and use them.. What they're really asking for is for them to be released to the police legally so they can use them more readily in cases now and future cases they might want to make...

Now even if they can't use them as evidence, they use it to get to a place they can get evidence.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Yes, criminals are always

Yes, criminals are always using text messaging to discuss crimes.

03:46 03/02/2012 "Dave, remember to set your alarm clock for 6:30 to get ready for the bank robbery"

16:12 09/22/2012 "G, com c m 2night, nd hlp mving som cocaine"

23:16 11/02/2001 "George, stole this computer from Starbucks, know someone interested to buy it"

14:26 03/14/2012 "my husband is in coma, he drink the poison, I'm at the hospital. Miss you, love, XOXO"

But the terrorists, much sophisticated, are using Twitter and Facebook, good thing FBI are monitoring those sites to keep us safe.

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The terrorists, much sophisticated, are using Twitter & Facebook

"But the terrorists, much sophisticated, are using Twitter and Facebook, good thing FBI are monitoring those sites to keep us safe."

Shhhhh... left the FARCEbook months ago... now going underground, here, on DP... think they noticed already ?

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Comrade, I'm also underground

Comrade, I'm also underground here, Twitter not safe anymore. I'm the real deal, don't know how to make bombs but I shiat on door mats belonging to big banks and big corporations. Well, I did this for a while until something went wrong, was a moonless night when I was struck by diarrhea while approaching the target, don't want to advertise here so I'm just saying that designer brand underwear and pants where lost that night.

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Miss you, love, XOXO

"my husband is in coma, he drink the poison, I'm at the hospital. Miss you, love, XOXO"

LMAO ! :))

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius