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Christmas:The Greatest Story NEVER Told

Christmas:The Greatest Story NEVER Told

Little Tommy Jones was wide awake, despite the fact that he had gone to bed nearly an hour before.In his mind were visions of a little old man with snow white hair and beard, dressed in a bright red suit. He was being pulled through the air by eight reindeer, in of all things, a sleigh.(This bothered Tommy. Why the sled? You see, Tommy lived by San Francisco and it was 50 degrees at 8:00 P.M.) But nevertheless, it was Christmas Eve . . . and Tommy had helped his parents decorate the "Christmas tree". He saw his sister putting the "Christmas wreaths" in the windows, and the "Yule log" burned briskly in the fireplace. Every time Tommy's mom walked under the "mistletoe" his dad would hug her and kiss her. It seems Daddy always was like this on Christmas Eve. He was loud and boisterous and filled with "Christmas Cheer" (that's what Mommy called it). All Tommy could think of was, "what will Santa Claus bring me for Christmas this year?"

Meanwhile, at the little church on the corner, people were pouring into the building to celebrate Christmas Mass, and one could see a Christmas tree, beautifully decorated near the altar. Downtown, the community's only tavern was filled with men and women laughing, hugging, kissing and yes, some even fighting. After all, this was Christmas Eve, a time to really celebrate. All these scenes we have depicted for you are "in honor" of the birth of Jesus Christ on December 25th.

Does Christmas really celebrate the birthday of Jesus? Was he in fact actually born on December 25th? Why do many celebrate their saviour's birth by getting drunk? Should we observe someone's birthday by giving gifts to one another? How did Santa Claus get involved with the birth of Jesus? Why all the emphasis on Christmas tree, yule logs and wreaths?

A great and important event occurred nearly 2,000 years ago in ancient Palestine. It was the birth of our Saviour Jesus Christ. We all know the story as told in the gospels. Joseph and Mary had gone to Bethlehem at the "decree of Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed (enrolled), and this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria, and all went to be taxed, everyone into his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem . . . to be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child."(Luke 2:1-5)

We know the story. There was no room at the inn, they spent the night in what we would call a barn, and there Mary gave birth to Jesus. His bed was a manger filled with hay. The attendants were the animals "lowing softly" as they settled themselves for their evening sleep. Out of town, in the fields around Bethlehem, shepherds were spending the night in open fields with their flocks.(Obviously, it was at a time before the shepherds would bring their flocks into the barns, before the cold rainy season of December and January.) "As the shepherds watched over their flocks by night they suddenly saw angels appear in the sky, and the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them, and they were sore afraid. And the angels said unto them, fear not, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David, a saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you. Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger."(Luke 2:8-11) As those shepherds rejoiced that night, so should we rejoice because Christ, the Messiah, the Saviour was born. It is through Christ that we have salvation.

When did this event take place? Actually, no one knows the actual date. However, most "Christian people" all over the world commemorate it on December 25th, and they call it Christmas, or the "Mass of Christ".

As stated in the introduction, most Christian denominations hold special services. It is a time of activity and good will, sometimes starting right after Halloween (at least for the merchants). Many people consider it the best season of all, and they look forward to it with great anticipation.

To Christians who really study their Bible there are questions: Is this observance of Christ's birth as portrayed by the world, really taught in the Bible? How does one link "Santa Claus" with Jesus Christ? Why the decorations and the Christmas tree? Since we don't really know the exact date of Christ's birth, why did we choose December 25th? Who authorized it? Was it God? If he did, for what reasons? It is our intent to answer these questions and to determine just what our attitudes, as Christians, should be.

Think for a moment. Few people know why we do the things we do and where our customs come from. We live in a world filled with customs and we grow up practicing many of them. Most Christian religions have supposed Christmas to be the most important of our Christian holidays. Without question we have blindly followed its observance, and have supposed its observance to be one of the principal teachings of the New Testament. We assume that Jesus was born on December 25th, and that God in his Bible has set apart this day as the most important Christian festival. We exchange gifts because the three wise men presented gifts to the Christ child. Did you know the Bible nowhere states there were three wise men? Did you know those wise men never appeared at the manger on Christ's birth night,but actually many months and perhaps even two years later? They didn't appear at the manger, but Christ's house (Matthew 2:11). Since we look to Christ as the author of our salvation, perhaps we should take a deeper look into his birth. We often hear the slogan "Let's put Christ back into Christmas!" Maybe we should investigate just how Christ got into Christmas in the first place.

Most astute Bible scholars will agree that Christmas as celebrated today is of pagan origin. Earl W. Count, Professor of Anthropology at Hamilton College, in his book, "4000 Years of Christmas" states: "We do not know its beginning . . . we do not really know when the Christ child it venerates was born: or the time and place when Christmas was first celebrated: or exactly how it was that, over the centuries, a bishop saint of Asia Minor, and a pagan god of the Germans merged to become Santa Claus". "Although the Christmas story centers in the Christ child of Bethlehem, it begins so long before his coming that we find its hero arriving on the scene after more than half of the time of the story has gone by. Christmas began over 4000 years ago, as the festival which renewed the world for another year. The 12 days of Christmas, the bright fires and probably the yule log; the giving of presents; the carnivals with their floats; their merry makings and clownings; the mummers who sing and play from house to house, the feastings; the church processions with their lights and song all these and more began three centuries before Christ was born. And they celebrated the arrival of a new year."(Earl W. Count,"4000 Years of Christmas, page 18)

"For that day (25th of December) was sacred, not only to the pagan Romans but to a religion from Persia which, in those days, was one of Christianity's strongest rivals." This Persian religion was Mithraism, whose followers worshipped the sun, and celebrated its return to strength on that day. The church finally succeeded in taking the merriment, the greenery, the lights, and gifts from Saturn and giving them to the "babe of Bethlehem" (ibid., page 27)

"It happened that the date (December 25th) did fall in the midst of the Saturnalia. Far from being an invention to compete against Roman and Persian paganism, the birthday of Christ ran the danger of being swallowed up in pagan merrymaking. The (church) fathers tried strenuously to keep Christmas strictly a churchly celebration. It was part of their unremitting struggle to break the grip of the pagan gods upon the people. And as they broke, Romans became Christians . . . but the Saturnalia remained" (ibid., page 28).

When was Jesus born? No one knows. December 25th is no more than the historical date of his birth than is any other"(page 50). "Christmas, as we have seen, is of the Mediterranean . . . for the Mediterranean world already had not merely centuries, but millennia behind it, when Christ was born; and even the religion which he founded had traveled several centuries before it discovered its need of Christmas" (page 86).

"Renewal and rebirth: After 4000 years, the festival that has grown about the birth of the Christ child remains an affirmation that all things can be made anew" (ibid, page 91).

Do you know that Jesus was not born in the winter season? Luke 2:8 states "and there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flocks by night." This never could have occurred in the month of December in Palestine. The shepherds usually brought their flocks from the mountain sides and fields and corralled them not later than mid-October, to protect them from the cold rainy season that followed. The Bible states in the Song of Solomon 2:11, Ezra 10:9 and 13, that winter was a rainy season not allowing shepherds to remain in open fields at night.

The Adam Clarke Commentary, Volume 5, page 347 states: "It was an ancient custom among the Jews of those days to send their sheep to the fields, and deserts about Passover (early spring) and bring them home at commencement of the first rain." The authority continues, "during the time they were out, the shepherds watched them night and day, as . . . the first rains began early in the month of Marchesvan, which answers to part of our October and November (begins mid-October) we find that the sheep were kept out in the open country during the whole summer, and as these shepherds had not yet brought home their flocks; it is a presumptive argument that October had not yet commenced, and that consequently, our Lord was not born on the 25th of December, when no flocks were out in the fields by night. On this very ground, the nativity in December should be given up. The feeding of the flocks by night in the fields is a chronological fact . . . see the quotations from the Talmudists in Lightfoot".

Do you know there is not one word in the New Testament, nor for that fact, in the whole Bible telling us that we should observe Christmas? The Christians of the first century, under the inspired teaching of Paul and Peter and the other apostles never observed it. What then is the origin of Christmas? Would you believe it came to us through the Roman Catholic Church? And that is where it gets its authority as a religious holiday. Why not examine the Catholic Encyclopedia, published by that church, under the caption "Christmas" You will find: "Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church! . . . The first evidence of the feast is from Egypt." "Pagan customs centering around the January Calends gravitated to Christmas" and, further, we find this truth acknowledged: The Encyclopedia Britannica says: "Christmas . . . (i.e., the Mass of Christ)". "Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church"

The Encyclopedia Americana says "Christmas, . . . it was, according to many authorities, not celebrated in the first centuries of the Christian church, as the Christian's usage in general was to celebrate the death of remarkable persons rather than their birth . . ."(The communion,or Christian Passover taking of bread and wine, which is instituted by New Testament authority, is a memorial of the death of Christ.) ". . . A feast was established in memory of this event (Christ's birth) in the fourth century. In the fifth century, the Western church ordered it to be celebrated forever on the day of the old Roman feast of the birth of Sol, as no certain knowledge of the day of Christ's birth existed."

So we ask ourselves, "How did the pagan custom get into the church?" Most recognized authorities show us that Christmas was not observed by the early church for the first two or three hundred years, a period longer than the United States has existed as a nation. Its origin begins in the western segment of the Roman Church in the fourth century A.D. However, it was not until the fifth century that the Roman Church ordered it to be celebrated as an official Christian festival.

In the Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia we read "How much the date of the festival depended upon the pagan Brumalia (December 25th) following the Saturnalia (December 17-24), and celebrating the shortest day of the year and the "new sun" . . . cannot be accurately determined. The pagan Saturnalia and Brumalia were too deeply entrenched in popular custom to be set aside by Christian influence. The pagan festival with its riot and merry-making was so popular that Christians were glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit and manner. Christian teachers of the West and Near East protested against the unseemly frivolity, while Christians of Mesopotamia accused their western brethren of idolatry and sun worship for adopting as Christian the pagan festival".

If Christmas came from the Roman Catholics and they got it from paganism, where then did the pagans get it? What was the origin of Christmas? Would you believe its roots begin just after the flood?

Nimrod, the grandson of Ham and the great-grandson of Noah was the real founder of the Babylonian system that has gripped the earth ever since. It was a system of organized competition, of man-ruled governments and empires, based on the competitive and profit making economic system.[Ed.Note: The Book of Genesis 10:8-9 mention Nimrod as being "a mighty hunter before the Lord" The word "mighty" here is translated from the Hebrew word "gibbor" meaning Tyrant or oppressive power; while the word "before" is rendered from the Hebrew "panyim" which can mean before but usually means "against". So Nimrod was a tyrant against the Eternal.]

Ancient writings speak of this man Nimrod, who started a great, organized world apostasy against God, which dominates the world even now. He was so wicked it is said that he married his own mother, Semiramis. After Nimrod was killed .[Ed.Note: Tradition tells us he was cut into pieces for his idolotry by Noah's God-worshipping son, Shem] his mother-wife propagated the doctrine of the survival of Nimrod as a spirit being. She claimed a full grown "evergreen tree" sprang overnight from a "dead tree stump" which symbolized the springing forth into new life, of the dead Nimrod. On each anniversary of his birth, she claimed Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. December 25th was the supposed birthday of Nimrod. This is the real origin of the Christmas tree.


Through her scheming and designing, Semiramis became the Babylonian "Queen of Heaven", and Nimrod, under many other names, became the "Divine Son of Heaven". [Ed.Note:Queen of Heaven mentioned in Jeremiah 7:18, 44:17-25 as being the object of idolatrous worship.] Through the generations, in this idolatrous worship, Nimrod also became the false messiah, son of Baal, the sun-god. In this false Babylonian religious system, the mother and child (Semiramis and the reborn Nimrod) became chief objects of worship. This worship of mother and child spread throughout the world. Only the names varied because of differing languages. [Ed.Note: The reborn Nimrod was also called "Tammuz" and is mentioned in Ezekiel 8:14 where this "false Messiah" is worshipped in God's own house!] In Asia they were known as Cybele and Diorus. In Rome they were Fortuna and Jupiter. In Egypt their names were Isis and Osiris [Ed. Note: And Horus, the, reborn Osirus, child]. Long before the birth of Jesus Christ, the counterpart of the Madonna can be found throughout China, Tibet and Japan.

Over the past centuries, the evolution of the Christmas celebration has become more and more evident. People in the 20th century give little thought to the origin of popular festivities, but rather, take them for granted. Let's seek out the origins of several time honored customs of the Christmas season.


In the beginning of this article we stated that the "Yule log" was burning in the fireplace. The yule log is in reality the "sun log." Yule means wheel, in this case, applied as the pagan symbol of the sun. Today, professing Christians speak of the sacred yuletide season. There is nothing sacred about it! The symbols come from rank heathenism. (Holly berries were also considered sacred to the sun god.)


"The Christmas tree, now so common among us, was equally common in pagan Rome and pagan Egypt. In Egypt that tree was the palm tree. In Rome it was the fir. The palm tree denoting the pagan messiah as Baal-Tamar (Judges 20:33)[Ed.Note: Baal-Tamar = lord of the tree(palm)] , the fir referring to him as Baal-Berith [Ed.Note:Baal-Berith; meaning lord of the covenant" another false title that resembles the true]. The mother of Adonis, the sun god and great mediatorial divinity, was mystically said to have been changed into a tree and when in that state to have brought forth her divine son. If the mother was a tree, the son must have been recognized as "the man of the branch" and this accounts for the putting of the yule log into the fire on Christmas Eve, and the appearance of the Christmas tree the next morning" (The Two Babylons - Hislop, page 97).


Let the reader look at the practice of kissing under the mistletoe. The mistletoe bough in the Druidic superstition, which was derived from Babylon, was a representation of the Messiah, "the man of the branch." The mistletoe was regarded as a divine branch, a branch that came from heaven, and grew upon a tree that sprang out of the earth. Thus by engrafting the celestial branch into the earthly tree, heaven and earth, which sin had severed, were joined together. Thus the mistletoe bough became the token of divine reconciliation to man, the kiss being the well known token of pardon and reconciliation (The Two Babylons -Hislop, page 99).

The Encyclopedia Americana says: "The holly, the mistletoe and the yule log . . . are relics of pre-Christian times."


The custom of giving gifts at Christmas time can be associated with thewise men of the East (and nowhere does it refer to three wise men) to Christ. [Ed.Note: It is generally assumed there were only three magi or wisemen because that is the number of types of gifts that the bible mentions but there could have been 6, 12 or even 100]But in reality, at least so far as the English speaking people are concerned, it is derived from an old heathen custom (The New Standard Encyclopedia-Christmas). The wise men gave their gifts to Christ, but did not exchange gifts with each other. The gifts presented to Christ were to a king, because of his royalty, and not because of his birthday. He was a king, and the people of the East never approached the presence of a king without a present in their hands (Adam Clarke Commentary, Volume 5, Matthew 2:11, page 34).[Ed.Note: The three gifts were also symbolic *Gold- (bestowed upon royalty)because He is our King, *Frankincense-(which was used in temple service)because He was to become our High Priest, and * Myrrh- (a spice used in embalming)because He was to die (for us)]. This was not a new custom being introduced by the wise men, but they were merely following an old ancient eastern custom of presenting gifts to a king when coming into his presence. "Jesus was king of the Jews" (Matthew 2:2)


In Frederick J. Haskins Book , found in many public libraries, entitled "Answers to Questions" we find- "The use of Christmas wreaths is believed by authorities to be traceable to the pagan customs of decorating buildings and places of worship at the feast which took place at the same time as Christmas. The Christmas tree is from Egypt and its origin dates from a period long anterior to the Christmas era."


The name "Santa Claus" is actually the corruption of the name "St. Nicholas" a Roman Catholic bishop who lived in the 5th century. In the Encyclopedia Brittanica, 11th Edition, Volume 19, pages 648-649 you will read "St. Nicholas, Bishop of Myra . . . a saint honored by the Greeks and Latins on the 6th of December . . . a legend of his surreptitious bestowal of dowries on the three daughters of an impoverished citizen . . . is said to have originated the old custom of giving presents in secret on the eve of St. Nicholas (December 6) subsequently transferred to Christmas Day. Hence, the association of Christmas and Santa Claus". It was the work of three American men that gave St. Nicholas the personality of our red cheeked white bearded jolly old Santa Claus. (Ickes, Chapter 3, Christmas, page 57).


"From the German people were to come those most universal of Christmas customs: the Christmas tree, and the portly beneficient Kris Kringle, known as Santa Claus" (Christmas Day: The Complete Book of American Holidays -Myers, page 314).

Gradually the Presbyterians, Quakers and Puritans accepted such customs as the Christmas tree, the giving of small gifts and the Christmas feast. But they spoke violently against the corruption of the Christkindl, (the Christ child) into Kris Kringle. After Kris Kringle was fully assimilated, there was much concern among all religious groups about the non-religious trend of the holiday" (Christmas Day: The Complete Book of American Holidays - Meyers, page 316).

"The observance of December 25 (as a Christian festival) only dates from the fourth century and is due to assimilation with the Mithraic festival of the birth of the sun" (World Popular Encyclopedia, Volume 3).

"Gradually a number of prevailing practices of the (heathen) nations into which Christ came were assimilated and were combined with the religious ceremonies surrounding Christmas. The assimilation of such practices generally represented efforts by Christians to transform or absorb otherwise pagan practices." (The Zonderian Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, Volume 1, page 805)

"The pagan symbolism was taken over and, in Christian view, elevated. Jesus became the "sun of justice" and the "sun of righteousness" (Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays - Myers, page 310).

"Our annual Christian festival (Christmas) is nothing but a continuation under a different name of this old solar festivity (Saturnalia)." (The New Golden Bough- Fraser and Foster, page 653).

"Christmas was generally celebrated in the West only after the triumph of Constantine when the time of Christ's birth was reckoned with the Day of the Unconquered Sun on 25 December" (From Christ to Constantine - Smith, pages 150-151).

The assimilation of Christ to the sun god, as sun of righteousness, was widespread in the fourth century and was furthered by Constantine's legislation on Sunday, which is not unrelated to the fact that the sun god was the titular divinity of his family" (A History of the Christian Church: Revised - Walker, Section 13, pages 154-155).

Put Christ back into Christmas? It's impossible! Christmas is a borrowed heirloom that was taken from the heathen scene 300 years after Jesus ascended into heaven. He was never in the festival, neither has he nor does he now condone it.


Many centuries ago, God issued a strong warning to Israel about inquiring after and serving heathen gods. Notice in Deuteronomy 12:30-32: "Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them (heathen nations), after that they be destroyed from before thee: and that thou inquire not after their gods, saying, how did these nations serve their gods? Even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the lord thy God: for every abomination to the lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods . . . what things so ever I command you observe to do it: Thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it".

In Matthew 28:19-20 Jesus said the apostles were to go to the people of all nations "teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you." Jesus tells us in John 13:15 "for I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you." In Leviticus 23, we find the holy days that God commanded to be kept forever. Christ and His apostles observed these holy days, and so did the early church. Christ kept the Passover with the apostles (John 13). He preached at the Feast of Tabernacles on the Last Great Day (John 7). Even after the death of Christ, the epistles of Paul showed us that the early church continued to observe these annual holy days. Nowhere will you find any command by Jesus to observe his birth, or Christmas. Actually, he commands us to observe his death, by keeping the Passover as shown in Matthew 26: 26-30, and John 13:1-17. Christmas and a host of other holidays have come directly from paganism but the annual holy days of Leviticus 23 have come from God. Let's forsake the pagan holidays of the world and observe the true holy days of God.

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Fact is, you will never know the real truth

The bible and virtually every religion in the world is chocked full of outright lies and half truths. One could study the subject for a thousand years (if possible) and never get to the truth.

Religion and deities were created for control over the masses and to force them to only look outside of themselves for answers (authority, government, gods, experts, etc.).

To me, it's all hogwash. Infinite Love Is the Only Truth: Everything Else Is Illusion.

“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”― Henry David Thoreau

Matthew 2:16

"When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and younger in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi."

They say the devil is in the details. Every year around this time I am tempted to put up my own display showing one of Herod's troops ("Support the trooooops!") with a wriggling infant on the end of his pike. My sweetie, wisely, consistently talks me out of it. For all their big talk of christian forgiveness, such an "offense" is nigh suicidal (edit: as evidence, note the down vote for daring to quote scripture in a scriptural discussion).

Happy Christmas to ya'll,
and Saturnalia, St Lucia's Day, Solstice, Mithra's Birthday, Kwaanza, Hannukah, Perihelion, Oestre, et cetera ad absurdum...

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Good info. Thanks!

Isn't it funny how people have all these traditions and have no idea where they originated from or hardly even think about why they do what they do?

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Everyone thinks Christianity

Everyone thinks Christianity is pagan in origin. Simple truth is it isn't.

Sorry but you weren't given chocolates and a bunch of flowers for being a Christian in the 300 years after Christ's death. You were crucified, thrown to the lions etc.
When Rome decided to embrace Christianity, why place these celebrations on pagan holidays when most people were already pagans.

It's called externalisation and most people are not aware of the origins of Paganism.

Just when you thought you knew something.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

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Then this is all wrong?

It is beyond doubt that Christmas was originally a pagan festival. The time of the year and the ceremonies with which it is still celebrated, prove its origin.

Isis, the Egyptian title for the "queen of heaven," gave birth to a son at this very time, about the time of the winter solstice. The term "Yule" is the Chaldee (Babylonian) name for "infant" or "little child."

This pagan festival not only commemorated the figurative birthday of the sun in the renewal of its course, but it also was celebrated (on December 24) among the Sabeans of Arabia, as the birthday of the "Lord Moon."

The Yule log was considered the dead stock of Nimrod (or Tammuz, depending on the specific nation involved), defined as the sun god, but cut down by his enemies; the Christmas tree is Nimrod revived - the slain god come to life again.

The Yule occultic colors are red and green.

The mistletoe branch symbolized "the man, the branch" and was regarded as a divine branch - a corrupt Babylonian representation of the true Messiah. Both mistletoe and holly were considered fertility plants by the pagans.

Jeremiah 10:2-5
2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

Did you get this from J. Preston Eby?

Or at least some of the information. The original is here:


Either that or you have both used the same source.

Nevertheless it is a good post. My wife and I have not celebrated the Saturnalia for many years for this very reason. The world is now going back to its original purpose and we as Christians should not complain about that development. Indeed we should welcome it.

The most likely date for the birth of Jesus is September 29, 2 B.C. which was the Feast of Trumpets of that year. We must remember that the Feast days of ancient Israel all have prophetic significance. Here is a very good explanation for that date:


The birth of the Son of God is now happening every day in the spirits of redeemed men and women and has been for the past almost two thousand years. Very soon the result of these millions of births will be revealed in the manifestation of the mature sons of God. (Romans 8:18-19)

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

The Christmas/Saturnalia connection ....

was one of things that unsettled me for a while. We keep the Biblical feasts and festivals now, but remember the birth and death and resurrection of Y'shua at the 'appointed times'.

The funny thing is, First Fruits and Easter often fall fairly close to each other, and sometimes overlap. We find ourselves avoiding most of the 'trappings' at Christmas, and relating the story of Passover's relationship to the resurrection and First Fruits to those who care to listen.

There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus, (Messiah Y'shua, if you prefer), but we are to live in the knowledge we have. Many do not have this information, or have not been convinced of it.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Go to a Passover sedar

It's an interesting experience. Find a local Lubovitcher house for a particularly exotic experience. They are in every city. Just dress and behave respectfully.

I learned all of this

7 years ago when I was looking into Wicca. Vast majority of christian holdays are centered around pagan traditions. Ever wondered about the easter bunny? The original holiday was called Eoster if I remember correctly and was centered around a goddess of fertility which the rabbit represented. A lot of the conversion of these customs and practices were a marketing ploy by the catholic church to convert pagans. Ever heard of St. Brigid? She was originally a pagan god from Ireland converted to a saint because of her immense popularity. These things are not new and Im honestly surprised when people dont know about the origins of these holidays.

Fascinating article, thanks

Did not know about Nimrod, etc. Good job!

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

The reality is...

The reality is that there is zero credible evidence that the Bible Jesus Christ ever existed at all. The Jewish/Christian Bible is a conglomeration of plagiarized myths from much older cultures and a few sprinklings of reference to historical events.

Either you can be a mature, honest thinking human being or you can believe a bunch of superstitious nonsense absent any evidence.

What's it going to be?

Zero evidence of Jesus? You need to watch this....

Title: 201 - Just Another Man?

Author: Walter J. Veith


Description: In this video, Biblical evidence that Jesus is the Messiah is presented in multimedia format. The ancient prophecies are unravelled, particularly the prophecy in Daniel 9 on the seventy weeks which pinpoints the exact time of the Messiah's arrival on Earth. The study of this prophecy has even been cursed by some theologians who do not wish to acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah. Study the evidence revealed in this video and you make your own conclusions.

Alternate view on...

Walter J. Veith.


Who are we to believe anymore?

Thank you for posting this.

Thank you for posting this. I really enjoyed it.

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great post!!

may i add a tidbit? thank you
tammuz was gored by a wild boar(eat ham for dinner?)
he was 40 years old when he died (40days of lent)
he was reincarnated as the egg laying rabbit(easter)
the high pagan priests would impregnate virgins(rape)
they would sacrifice these babies on their alters to their false god,
dip eggs into the blood(easter was born)

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence


Many people think that by using the abbreviation of Xmas you are taking Christ out of Christmas. When in reality, the letter X comes from the greek alphabet which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as "Christ".

The sooner people

stop believing in ancient mythology, ghosts, goblins, devils and gods...the longer and happier we will all live!

Unfortunantly it looks like things are following exactly along the script that was written for the mindless masses to follow years ago. WWIII will come (according to revelations) and religious people will claim...SEE the words in the Bible are real...it was written by "God", but they never consider that the bible was written by ancient rulers to keep populations in fear of the unknown and as a map for their plans of the future.

Wake up to what you already know.


Zeitgeist is 80% accurate

Until it says Jesus was a myth.

They that give up liberty for security deserve neither.


Zeitgeist makes more sense than most of the bible stories do.


that depends

if you're adhering to Mosaic Law or the Gospel.

They that give up liberty for security deserve neither.

A "Come to Jesus" talk...

I wrote off the Bible and everything in it for many, many years, but I am coming to a new understanding.
I think Yeshua bin Yussef existed. I think he was a man of very unusual integrity. I suspect that he was a "lucid dreamer" and able to tap the Source of Knowledge, as Tesla claims he did. I suspect he did "miraculous" healings and such by use of energy fields. Then one day he decided to go after the money changers to truly set the people free, and he was immediately crucified. Now they had a martyr on their hands and had to do SOMETHING to keep more people from doing what he did, so they borrowed some pagan mythology and over-wrote the actual biography of Yeshua with a fanciful mythology making him a biological son of a god. You and I just have mortal fathers, so we can never be like Jesus.... But what if we CAN be like Yeshua, and the Gnostics carried on the tradition, and so the Council of Nicaea was formed and the Bible re-written... Yeshua asked us to "Follow him." That now means drop to your knees and worship a deity, and I think he meant "Hey! I found a REALLY cool place (the dreamtime) - come check it out with me!"
I have deep appreciation for "Zeitgeist." I am not certain they got it all right, though.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

You made that connection

about getting rid of the money changers at the Temple and the immediate result of that, too! It amazes me how most people miss that point. Then again, it's not like any churches help anyone to make that connection, either. Bingo, anyone?

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox


does a Church build Basilicas without titheful taxation?

They that give up liberty for security deserve neither.


Thanks you so very much! This is a great article. It is amazing the amount of people that just go to church and have never even picked up their bible; they enjoy the 'baby food' that the preacher teaches them each week. I am fortunate to have grown up knowing the truth and will one day teach my children the truth..

I also think this site is a good place to spread such info because most the people here live their lives based on logic and not simply by what they are told. It is important to recognize the corrupt and learn from their misguided endeavors. Whether it be politics or religion.

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.

Notwithstanding the theory about the pagan origins of the ritual

Catholics have (or should have) always known that Christ's Mass is NOT a high holiday.

It is a holy day of obligation. A holy day of obligation in Catholicism means mandatory mass attendance.


Tree worship, light worship, worshiping of idols, putting ritual above concept, worship and execution of holy obligations is obviously pagan.

December 25 occurred as a result of the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar in the western church. Eastern Orthodox still celebrates Christ's Mass on the Julian calendar date which is one week later.

As far as SANKT NIKLAUS goes. SANKT NIKLAUS, the German way of saying Saint Nicholas, the direct anglicization of which Sankt Niklaus being Santa Claus, is a Catholic saint.

Here is his story.

As far as this goes
"Actually, he commands us to observe his death, by keeping the Passover as shown in Matthew 26: 26-30, and John 13:1-17. "

The Hebrew word for Passover is "Pesach". Pesach and Paschal (meaning Easter in every european language other than English) are the same lingustically equivalent words.

This is why Easter is the highest of high christian holidays (according to the Catholic church) and reflects the commandment in Matthew and John to "keep Pesach" (i.e. Passover).

St Nicholas lived

long before there was a Roman Catholic Church. He is said to have slugged Arius in the face for his blasphemies (at the Council of Nicea).

You ever hear of the Nicolaitans?



Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

St Nicholas came along

a couple of hundred years after the writing of the New Testament.

Pesach or Pascha does not mean easter!

It means Passover. Get your facts straight. Nowhere in Scripture does it mean easter.

Easter is the biggest usurpation of a Scriptural Holy Day and nothing more.