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Will Flu Shots Be Mandatory (Forced) Under Obamacare?

What if the health insurance companies that now have us all by the cajones make it mandatory for every American to get a flu shot in order to get health coverage?

If the government can force us to buy health insurance, can the insurance companies force us to take the flu shot?

No flu shot, no health insurance....pay the IRS a nice hefty fine, and hope you don't get sick.

Is that what we are going to eventually be faced with?

I have not read the entire healthcare bill Obama forced down America's throat, but I would not be surprised to find enough vague language within it to somehow, "justify," mandatory flu shots.

Many of us already know how the sick bastards that run this world want to kill off billions of humans....

If the government can, "force," us to drink fluoridated water, force us to buy an expensive crappy insurance product, force us to pay unconstitutional income taxes, force us to bend over for the TSA, and force us all to take the flu shot...then what can't they force us to do?



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Lol!!!

"If the government can, "force," us to drink fluoridated water, force us to buy an expensive crappy insurance product, force us to pay unconstitutional income taxes, force us to bend over for the TSA, and force us all to take the flu shot...then what can't they force us to do?"

Fight for our freedom.

P.S. Printz, Mack v US

Read the highlighted portions of this SCOTUS decision and tell me how is it we're even having to discuss the issue of Obamacare? If you read just the sections I've highlighted, it seems a no-brainer that Obamacare is unconstitutional, according to (old) SCOTUS even.

Printz, Mack v US on Google Docs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ELcTn6DtRefOmCb85edlBqGB...

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Probably yes.

It would not surprise me if this turns into a second wave for the drug war, either. I don't see ehy they wouldn't make you take drug tests, too (including tobacco.)

"They" already use "backward drug tests"

"They" being doctors under the watchful eye of DEA,
"backward drug tests" = drug tests to make sure you are taking your meds/ sufficient levels of the meds in your system (and therefore proving you're "not selling your drugs"....no kidding).

I think perhaps SC has been a test state for this insanity but if you have a smidgen of something "they" don't like in your system (or perhaps maybe "not enough" of something "they" do want in your system), even if your hair is on fire and your eyeballs are bleeding, you will not be "allowed" pain medication.

It's bizarro world. Consider when the FDA tried to make Cheerios a "drug". What happens when you have too much Cheerios or walnuts (or other "bad 'drug'") in your system?

FDA Warns General Mills: Cheerios Is a Drug
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2009/05/12/fda-warns-general-mil...

FDA Warns Diamond: Walnuts are a Drug
Diamond Food Inc. 2/22/10
http://www.fda.gov/iceci/enforcementactions/warningletters/u...

Sorry maybe TMI, this stuff flips my wig ;)

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Same law in Florida - pain meds must be prescribed

by a pain clinic and drug testing is mandatory.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

SC = not just pain meds

Not sure what all else but I'm guessing just about anything -- but also know for sure that anti-anxiety meds are backward tested as well. I'll say I'm fairly unsure how precise these tests can possibly be considering I would think different size folk, with different metabolisms and different doses would possibly retain "sufficient amounts" in differing ways and to say that someone is selling klonipin because their levels are not testing high enough is absurd -- but "they'll" refuse to refill those meds (even though they know the "pain" of instant withdrawal from such) if the levels don't come back "textbook".

In SC we used to have PRN or PDN, where the prescription basically was written as "patient determines need"...but we no longer have that option at all, not even for cough syrup (which someone on here said differed in their state. So Florida and SC have really had the screws tightened down on them it appears - all part of the clampdown).

This stuff just cooks my goose. This kind of "suspicion of the patient" started happening in SC about 15 years ago. It is one of the reasons I "knew" that our medical information was never kept "private", especially from the DEA. Just read HIPPA, it basically tells you that it allows all your information to be given up to whomever "they" please.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Read in the WSJ this morning that the feds are scrambling

trying to figure out how to keep the generic Oxycodone (sp?) from coming into the US since Canada will have it on the market in a month. I expect the TSA will have a hiring boom soon...

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

I used a link in the "similar subjects" section under your post

and found this:

What Will Be Considered Mandatory
The Federal Government’s proposed mandatory health insurance will mean mandatory vaccinations/immunizations. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) says that for anyone who refuses to keep up-to-date vaccinations, under the new health reform, you will not be able to obtain any health care you may need until immunizations are current.
http://www.youronlineinsurance.com/health-insurance/will-fed...

I did read somewhere that it is suggested that a person will only receive emergency services if they have kept immunizations up to date...

Also consider your state laws, like SC:

The bottom line is that:  a) according to SC law (SC Code of Laws 63-5-340 and 350), a healthcare provider can give care, except surgery, to a person down to 16 years of age on their own authorization (including vaccinations), and b) providers can also do so for a minor (under age 16) if there is a professional determination that the health services is necessary.   But a more formal determination of need must be made by the medical professional.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Nothing

People need to simply ignore Obamacare and not participate in any way. Since it was never legally passed into law, it is void ab initio and legally unenforceable. I'm sure some jack-booted thugs with guns will try to enforce it anyway and at that point simply claim to be a Christian Scientist and that participation would violate your religious beliefs and your rights under the US constitution.

The people have the power to put an end to all this illegal nonsense including TSA but they have to stop being selfish and stop pursuing immediate gratification. If your employer tells you you must fly for your job tell it that you are willing to do so but not undergo dangerous irradiation and not willing to surrender your constitutional right to be free from unreasonable searches etc. You cannot be fired for refusing to surrender your rights. Your employer has the option of having a private plane fly you or to transport you via some other means of conveyance.

The solution to our problem is too many empty scrotums. We must be willing to stand up to our oppressors and simply say "NO."

Printz, Mack v US agrees

The point is can the states administrators be "compelled"? In this day and age, I'm afraid they are all too easily 'compelled and commanded'.

Last paragraph:

We held in New York that Congress cannot compel the States to enact or enforce a federal regulatory program. Today we hold that Congress cannot circumvent that prohibition by conscripting the State's officers directly. The Federal Government may neither issue directives requiring the States to address particular problems, nor command the States' officers, or those of their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program. It matters not whether policymaking is involved, and no case by case weighing of the burdens or benefits is necessary; such commands are fundamentally incompatible with our constitutional system of dual sovereignty. Accordingly, the judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit is reversed.

It is so ordered.

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer