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Vortex Math - you have got to see this.

My Tesla Trip landed me at the doorstep of Vortex Math.

Anyone who saw "Thrive" will appreciate that connection - the torus is indeed worth studying. Marko Rodin developed this course, but he is too smart to talk to folks like me. He has a student, Randy Powell, who makes it very understandable. I have been working my way through these videos, but yesterday a comment caught my eye... WOW - the "Vortex math" diagram will be on screen when you click the link. I did not even notice as I was trying to learn math, but someone in the comments did. Ever seen that symbol before?


Now DO NOT dismiss this thread over me pointing out the symbol. That is a fascinating coincidence, but this thread is about what they are teaching. It is "the new math" we all heard about but never learned and we really deserve to know.

Combine this with "The Electric Universe" and we are not in Kansas any more, Toto. A new level of consciousness is right there - no hoodoo voodoo, no prayer and fasting, just a willingness to learn.

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Example of vortex coil exhibiting unusual characteristic


In case you don't understand, coils usually get VERY hot when they are charged, this one cools off. Don't believe it? Stop acting on faith, go build one and see for yourself. THAT is how you "debunk" something. Deciding without investigation is lazy, and leaves you open to be a follower everywhere you go.

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looks like

A Volkswagen symbol! i'm glad i only watched 15 seconds of the video

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Interesting properties of Starship coil


I'll be trying this as soon as I get mine built!

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I really dislike pseudo-intellectuals. There was nothing amazing about this. I wasted 9 minutes and 26 seconds of my life, a couple minutes of that learning to count to 9, which I learned on Sesame Street.


Vortex method is good for making poached eggs as well


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What those that dismiss this fail to understand is, the wider volume of information surrounding this. And it is huge.

Secret societies have coveted this information over the millenia.
Only now is it coming into the light of the greater consciousness.

Additionally to my Nassim Haramein links (reposted) I further add to it with Stan Tenen. Who has decoded the Hewbrew Bible.

For the super short version, the bible talks of GOD as being creation. Creation as in, the process of creation. The creation of Life.

Which is a geometric shape. Which is vortex math. Which is how the universe functions.

The universe is one large multi-fractal Hexagonal vortice.
Look everywhere and you will see this shape.

Being that secret societies knew of this, why is it do you think your education has lead you to a belief other than that of observable phenomena ?

Reprogram your mind with the truth.

Nassim Haramein
4hrs Part 1

4 hrs Part 2

Stan Tenen

Additionally much noteworthy,


Wayne Herschel

Please note, Both Nassim Haramein and Wayne Herschel have been kept out of Wikipedia at all costs. Whereas comparatively someone the mainstream views as crazy, David Ike, is not excluded.

Does this say anything to you ?

(Nothing against David Ike, I love everyone :)

Here is how to build one


I'll let you know what how mine turns out. The effects on ferromagnetic fluids are particularly intriguing, when one considers the effect of frequency on water. The fact that simply placing a magnet in the center and hooking it to an ipod gives you a speaker has some pretty mind blowing implications. I look forward to having a coil of my own, and seeing what I can do with it. Understanding the math is not required to build one, just a little curiosity.

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Not a Science or Technology Presentation.

This has been posted in the science and technology section but is a presentation of neither. If you find something like this, "Vortex math", and think it's interesting enough to share, please try harder to find a credible presentation. For those of us with real math and science backgrounds, the presenters lack of understanding of basic math makes it obvious that he's not up to the task of teaching grade school arithmetic, let alone giving an insightful lecture on a breakthrough that could revolutionize our understanding of everything.

Here's two things he said about math that are completely wrong:
1. There are only 9 single digits known in all of math.
2. There are only 4 operations in all of math.

Even if you don't know why both of the above assertions are false, you still should have been more than suspicious of the guru, let me fill you in on the great secrets of eternal everything chatter. If you wanted to post this in the sci-fi & fantasy section, fine. But you're wasting people's time by misrepresenting the presentation.

Correlation does not prove causality!

This is Numerologoy and not Mathematics

His first mistake is to claim there are only 9 one digit numbers (that dis-includes zero) and completely ignores other base systems such as binary , where there are only two single digit numbers of hexadecimal where one finds sixteen of them

Numerology is to Mathematics as Astrology is to Astronomy. A fun game for the uneducated and misinformed.

Zero is the Toroidal "centre" from which the 9 numbers originate

It is true that he does not make that clear in THIS video but did so in the TED Talk presentation. The "zero" is the numerical value of the black hole at the centre of galaxies in relative terms.

Binary code "100101..." is, in my opinion, akin to the "existence" and "non-existance" of protons that "pop" in and out. depending on the pattern of "popping" you get different light information causing particles to form in specific ways.

Seems quite clear to me. But I'm no expert I'm just trying to connect the dots here.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

in terms of electricity, it is "zero point" in the wave.

If you watch the videos, it becomes easy to see why he "forgets" zero, it is self evident.

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Nassim's "Black Whole" presentation is fantastic

I like his fun style of delivery of the information.

Thanks for these :)

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

It is actually rather mindblowing

Honestly, you have to do the math with him to get it. I think I went through 10 parts of his demonstration last night before my eyes began to cross and I went to bed.

This actually is a demonstration of some quite amazing facts about numbers and how they are related. And its astonishing how it all relates to patterns we see everywhere and in everything. That it's the universal patterns of all we know and see. And also facinating how then it can be used in designing, engineering, and predicting.

More than that, it's interesting about the symbolism. It is highly possible that this is where NWO's pyramid with the power position of the eye (9) paired with the 3 and the 6 and also the well known Mason symbol stemmed from the understanding of this relationship within numbers. The infinity symbol seems directly related to the never ending spiral that forms between the 12457 and 8. I find it interesting that also (not that they talk about any of this in the video) that 666 (number of the devil) equals 18 which also in turn equals 9. Crazy but interesting.

And I do find it a compelling argument for the world created through intelligent design for many reasons. I honestly don't know a person could watch this, understand this, and not be blown away by it.

So thank you for sharing the video.

People see patterns in everything

because we *look* for patterns in everything. While one individual's thought process may vary greatly from another individual, one constant is that we like to look for patterns in just about everything. That said, not every pattern we see actually adds up to something meaningful. Look at how many different patterns people see when speculating about all sorts of conspiracies (real or imaginary).

I could play numbers games with any set of numbers using any type of math and manage to come up with all sorts of patterns and connect the numbers to X, Y, and Z...doesn't mean they'd make any sense beyond the context of the exercise itself.

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It's measurable and repeatable.

It's not a game and it's not just a happy mistake. It repeats over and over again in nature.

about the conspiracy stuff. I'm only saying that to me that this pattern which has been known for ages could possibly have been the reason for the symbols certain organizations adopted them. Adopting them purposefully to represent a connection to something higher or more powerful. It's only something I suspect and not something I have directly heard or have any real evidence of.

Maybe people see patterns in everything because there are patterns in everything.

Even if you had only studied chemistry and chemistry alone you would still know that things fit together in a pattern and do so predictably.

What's in a name?

When I learned Vortex Math in grade school, we called it "casting out nines."

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I will never reclaim

the 8 minutes of my life I just wasted waiting for something serious to occur. I believe this is a fine example devolution.

this proves you just dont

this proves you just dont get it.



Apparently, a few people didn't get your sarcasm, either!

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Haha... that was me!

I corrected my error :)

If you think vortex math is great...

... you should see what a calculator can do. Quite mystical!

it's about seeing patterns with numbers

the simple math is only the vehicle to get you to see the patterns. Did you know that? Or did you just want to make a calculator joke?

I might be able to come up

I might be able to come up with a pretty corny abacus joke, but don't count on it...

Retarded pseudosceince.

Retarded pseudosceince.

Just a techy version of the "no soap, radio!" joke.

The only people who are "impressed" by this are impressed by the fact that it confused them, not impressed by the fact that it eludicated anything. This is the opposite of what knowledge is supposed to do.

No soap. Radio.

Perfect analogy.

I think he sort of gave away the joke when he said no other digits had been discovered.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

That is a pretty arrogant attitude.

While I do not get every concept they covered, it did not confuse me. It did not ask me to "believe" anything to make it work, nor did it require I adopt their religion. They are religious, they see this through their filter. OK, I looked at the facts they presented. I am not confused, I am going to apply what I learned to building the coil, and then I will see for myself what properties it has, and maybe I will be the one to figure out the practical application. And, I will come tell you if I do, and fully expect you to dismiss anything I say since you have already decided your opinion, rather than look at the facts.
You know, I have tried to be a bit humble about this, but I scored well above "genius" and I realize this stuff will be over the head of many, many people. But some of us get it, and because these guys tried to give a full explanation of their coil, we are going to get more of it faster. If you are in too deep, just go build a coil, you don't have to understand how it works for it to work. If you have no interest, admit that but do not dismiss what you do not understand as "pseudoscience." Now, I have asked, begged, cajoled, trying to get anyone who knows MORE than me about this to show me where they are wrong. So far, all I hear is that they have the wrong religion. You are going to have to do better than that to convince me that you know something I don't. It appears to me that I know something you don't, having taken the time to listen and try to understand.

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One question

What test/exam/battery did you score 'well above genius' (prodigy?) on?

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Stanford-Binet, the annual "stanine" scored testing, ACT - all of them. Sorry, I was "that kid." You all had someone like me in your class, and I remember how it was back then... Some kids wanted to cheat off my tests, some wanted me to help them learn, and some wanted to beat me up.

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because any "well above genius" (why not just say "prodigy"?) would know that such tests aren't very accurate measurements of one's intellect (in all its forms). I also like how you paint yourself as some sort of victim because of your "genius". I notice you cop this attitude whenever it looks like you're on the losing side of a given debate (OWS comes to mind). Don't worry though, it's a rather common ego defense mechanism-- perfectly normal.

Should I go around acting all superior because of the number I got on *my* IQ test, or the fact that I skipped three grades? No, because neither serves as accurate indicators of how much knowledge I possess, much less on which subjects. Simply pointing out how smart you are (or believe you are) also doesn't work in place of facts, neither do variations of "you just don't get it". Both simply reek of arrogance and closed-mindedness-- something I'd like to think you're above.

Personally, I think you are quite an intelligent person, but that doesn't mean I don't think you're trying to see meaning where there is none in vortex math.

Going down rabbit holes can be fun, but it's good to come up for air every now and again, know what I mean?

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