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Vortex Math - you have got to see this.

My Tesla Trip landed me at the doorstep of Vortex Math.

Anyone who saw "Thrive" will appreciate that connection - the torus is indeed worth studying. Marko Rodin developed this course, but he is too smart to talk to folks like me. He has a student, Randy Powell, who makes it very understandable. I have been working my way through these videos, but yesterday a comment caught my eye... WOW - the "Vortex math" diagram will be on screen when you click the link. I did not even notice as I was trying to learn math, but someone in the comments did. Ever seen that symbol before?

http://youtu.be/7pvuTZ5u6Kg

Now DO NOT dismiss this thread over me pointing out the symbol. That is a fascinating coincidence, but this thread is about what they are teaching. It is "the new math" we all heard about but never learned and we really deserve to know.

Combine this with "The Electric Universe" and we are not in Kansas any more, Toto. A new level of consciousness is right there - no hoodoo voodoo, no prayer and fasting, just a willingness to learn.




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BMWJIM's picture

Where is Kahn?

Have not seen nor heard from him for quite some time but I would really like your input on this my friend!

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

LOL Kahn

Is he still out playing in the jungle.

C_T_CZ's picture

Must..........fight....back........aaaargh!

Pseudo-science makes my ears bleed and gives me a headache. If it does for you, too, try these as an antidote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0KjXsGRvoA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2mnGEMCY20

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I get headaches from people hanging on to old principles

and ignore the growing evidence of the etheric/consciousness field because they're too set in their scientific beliefs. There is an intelligent design to everything and math happens to be its language.

Start your own thread to spread your status-quo science.

Leading edge thinkers welcome to the discussion.

I........feel......better....now.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

deacon's picture

lemme ask this here

how do fractals fit into this?
are they math in pictures?
i understand fractals,math not so much
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

I haven't really looked into numerical fractals to say for sure

I'm learning as I go but it seems like the number 9 exhibits a fractal characteristic for any multiplication of it reduces back to itself. Fitting that it should represent enlightenment. No matter how large the number gets, it always "returns" to its "source".

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

C_T_CZ's picture

Science itself is wonderful

Science and math are wonderful. There is profound order in the universe, and our scientists and theorists have made astounding discoveries in the macrocosm and microcosm.

I watched the original video posted from this thread, the whole thing. The lack of credibility is astounding. The guy plays a simple numbers trick on a circle and shows a repeating pattern - and concludes that it is the answer to "invisible energy, tacheons, monopoles, gravitons, radiant energy, chi, karma, or E (as in E=MC^2), and the driving force behind reality & creation. "

Perhaps to someone who is completely untrained in any math or science whatsoever, they can be impressed by this guy's affirmations.

Ron Paul gave Rudy Giulani a reading list because of his breathtakingly uneducated statements on consequences of bad foreign policy. Similarly, I would give the guy in this video a reading list to educate him about what makes our universe truly astounding and wonderous. And it's not about a circle with digits 1 through 9.

I'd recommend he start with Carl Sagan and the Cosmos series for a primer. Then go on to Brian Greene and the Elegant Universe for a deep but beautiful explanation of general relativity, quantum mechanics, the standard model of particles, and how string theory and multiple dimensions comes into play and may explain it. Then finish it off with QED from Richard Feynman, if you want to be exposed to some of the most truly mind bending (but proven) explanations of particle interactions.
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Carl-Sagan/dp/0345331354/
http://www.amazon.com/The-Elegant-Universe-Superstrings-Dime...
http://www.amazon.com/QED-Strange-Theory-Light-Matter/dp/069...

Actual science and math are wonderous indeed. And it's not what you see in the video from this guy. That's my point.

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Then we're just seeing it through different eyes.

I don't disagree with your comment but it's important to realize that there are fundamental forces at "work" here that the scientific method just can't measure. In my opinion it never will. Which is where experience and application of these new principles comes into play.

"True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing."—Socrates

Modern science is great at measuring the physical world and its mechanics but there are deep discoveries being made that show that nothing is actually solid. Nothing. Science doesn't like that conclusion. Ironically, neither does Religion. But that's for a different thread all together.

There are just certain things that now exceed the boundaries of most science and we have to be prepared to alter or update our beliefs. After all, the only constant is change itself.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Have you looked at the coils?

I will grant you up front, I can not find the practical application. But there are young men building these coils and posting videos, and they have shown that SOMETHING is going on here. This series of videos is not to make converts, it is made for those who want to understand why the coil behaves differently. I just finished them, and while a lot of it does go over my head, that is MY lack of understanding, not an indication that they must be wrong.
If this is such pseudo-science, WHERE is the extra energy coming from?

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

C_T_CZ's picture

What coils?

What coils? The video from this guy does not mention anything about coils.

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Makes current technology obsolete

The scope of the Rodin Solution, and it’s applications, is staggering. It is universally applicable in science, biology, medicine, genetics, astronomy,chemistry, computer science, physics, and astrophysics.
The Rodin Torus Coil makes much of current technology obsolete, including the following :
• The combustion engine
• Alternating current
• Conventional computer compression schemes
• Current methods of heat dissipation in computer processors
• Conventional wireless communication
• Winged airplanes
• All conventional types of encryption
• Endless repeating decimals are eliminated as a result of being able to compute a whole value for anything
• Chemical-based approaches to medical treatment can be eliminated
through controlling genetic engineering via the high-dimensional flux fields which are the basis of all creation
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Rodin.pdf

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

+1 Thanks for the PDF link!

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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

SQS

Status-quo science:)

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Fishy

When you have time:)

http://rense.com/RodinAerodynamics.htm

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

An excerpt

Hopefully this will enable people to understand "why" there is only "one" truth and how we can all move forward in learning more about the "nature" of what that one truth is and why no single person or group of people can be the "owner" of the one truth and that literally everyone has a piece of the "enlightening" puzzle which is like a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

wolfe's picture

roflmao...

I need better drugs. I need HIS drugs.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

deacon's picture

i watched that video

read all the comments,and am still confused
i have found confusion is brought about by lies
have i missed something in that video?

how do fractals fit into this? i keep seeing them
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

confusion can also be brought about by lack of comprehension.

"I don't understand so you must be lying" is a pretty simplistic way to handle life.
I don't get it all, either, but I get enough to want to build a coil. They do not claim free energy, they claim increased efficiency, and the two circuits that have a sheer face being able to exist without insulation is amazing - why don't they short out? I don't know much about electricity, but I do know that you do not want naked positive and negative charges hanging out with each other, so this coil already has one property that "defies" current electricity models as I understand them. (Again, I admit I am in over my head, but willing to swim around till I figure it out. )

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

deacon's picture

FC

this is why i asked if i missed something
if others see things and i don't,i want to learn
this is why i ask all manner of questions,but usually
they go unanswered
i added you as a friend here,as i like the things you research
no,i do not understand everything,i have been like a fish out of the water just trying to grasp politics
i asked about fractals,i see them,i kind of understand them
and how they and math go hand in hand
but i have found that if people are trying to confuse,they are lying
if i have offended i will leave you all alone,and not ask another question

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

Deacon

I started learning about this in increments. Such as:

The number nine never changes and is linear. For example all multiples of 9 equal 9. 9x1=9, 9x2=18, but 1+8=9, 9x3=27, but 2+7=9. This makes the number 9 totally unique.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

deacon's picture

I SEE IT!!!

i see what you mean,and it was so in my face!!
and it was like there all this time
thank you,very much
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

AWESOME!

I just read your comment above and realize I have been behaving as though I am under attack, and missed your sincere desire to understand. I am glad celeste got you covered!
I honestly believe that people who are not good at math might be the best ones to build the coil, your hands probably learn faster than your head, no? Instructional video in comment below.... hint, hint....

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

deacon's picture

watching that vid brings back memories

we used to make a coil like that and magnetize
dads tools(no he didn't like that :))
also what i see is a coil,that can be more
if the coil was wound with a smaller coil
attached or wound into each point where the
windings go around the top,it could created higher
magnetism(this coil has 12 points where they wind around the top
the smaller windings could be added to the bottom creating
a focal point? for the energy created),for what purpose
i do not know
i am happy for celestes help,her taking the time to type
what she did,opened my eyes
i did find which is understandable that the numbers 3@6,also
work the same way
without putting my total self out there to answer a question or 2,because it is not just between you and I
you raised,i am better with my hands yes,but this wasn't always the case,no math was never,ever a strong suit of mine,school was boring
i can go into my workshop and see things i put together,and not remember what some of it was for,nor remember how i did it,i believe
this came about after being on pain meds for 6 years,at this point i do not know if this is reversible,i am into herbs,hopefully i can flush it all out of my body
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

You rock, my friend!

I hope your curiosity gets the best of you and you make a coil and play with it. That inner child will lead you, I am sure! I firmly believe that great intellects dream up wonders, but it is the practical "handyman" kind of guy who will take these dreams and make them useful. "WAHOR" and all that.
Have you looked into boron as a detox? Or bentonite / seolite? These are especially good at removing metallic particles, and a LOT of us have a mercury load we really don't need.
THANKS for forgiving me my pi$$y fit, too!

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

So what?

He said the chart contained all the digits but it didn't, it omitted zero and he immediately lost me there.

It is a bunch of mumbo jumbo with little to no relevance to anything real.

Thanks anyway.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

These guys took the time to make videos fully explaining how they MADE A NEW TYPE OF ELECTRICAL COIL. It exists, people all over are making them. They display unusual characteristics. These guys are willing to show how and why it is different, but it takes a couple hours. People want answers, but they want them in 10 minutes or less. I would even understand if someone was just not good at all at math, maybe this is smokescreen for that. And if you are too busy and important to find any of this worth your time, OK. Your life.
They are trying to offer knowledge they believe was a gift, that it was intended for all of humanity. I wonder how they feel when they are greeted by people who demand to know how it works, then refuse to listen to the explanation.
FREE. Did I mention they just put it on youtube for free? FREE energy device. Not "free energy" - free instructions on a new energy device.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

BSME

I have a mechanical engineering degree from a major university and am somewhat good at math, and I can assure you without any equivocation that zero is a number. If they went to so much trouble the make the video, why didn't they do their homework?

The video is to expalin to those interested in learning

but available also to those who choose to nit-pick and seek reasons to tune out.
STOP beating a dead horse - he did bring up zero, not soon enough to suit you but again, if you watched you would see that the zero is self-explanatory. Only an idiot needs it pointed out - or someone with a mechanical engineering degree from a major university.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

please see my comment to the same assumption below

thanks.

No relevance to anything real except all of reality itself.
Nice display of "open-mindedness". /sarcasm

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Sorry, he missed a very important digit

Zero. Without zero, he is not only missing the correct starting point for counting, he is missing every tenth number (since somehow the universe is obviously tied to base 10 integers.)

Since he wants to look at circles, he should probably be concerning himself with how pi fits into the universe. I don't have any personal theories, but pi is one of the most fascinating (and natural) numbers around. Best of all, while its value as we know it is expressed as a base 10 number (3.1415....), the concept of its value is independent of our number system.