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3 Good Examples of Bible Errancy

- Daniel 12:2 raises the prospect of a third class of people, who will not be resurrected to a glorious afterlife, nor to an inglorious punishment, but will simply stay dead. This is not in keeping with the traditional Christian teaching on such matters, which is based on passages like John 5:28-29

UPDATE: Kudos to tfichter who has succeeded in resolving Daniel 12:2 by using a different original language literal translation than the one I used. "tfichter"'s comment can be found here:
- http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2857934

- The Bible (apparently regardless of which translation we look at) clearly contradicts itself regarding Jesus' last words on the cross:
Luke 23:46 ""Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last."
John 19:30 ""It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit."

Note: There Can Only Be One Final Phrase Uttered. Neither of the above two verses were stated in context to possibly be the second or third to the last phrase uttered by Jesus, but rather the final phrase uttered.

- God's name Yahweh, was given to Abraham (in Genesis), and yet later (in Exodus) was stated to have been kept from Abraham and others:
Genesis 15:7 "And he said to him [Abram], I am Yahweh who brought you out from Ur of the Chaldeans to give you this land to possess."
Exodus 6:3 "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob [each individually], as God Almighty, but by my name Yahweh I did not make myself known to them."
[The reader can verify the use of the name Yahweh in these verses from the original Hebrew using the online Interlinear translation at http://scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm ]

Bonus: Christian Bible Scholar Reluctantly Says Jesus Did Not Die On Cross

- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7849852/Jesus-did-n...


The Positive Message Behind This Post:

Many organized religions, including those stemming from Christianity/The Bible, have misrepresented the most important thing in the universe, which of course is love. Without understanding the true principles of love in the proper context, humanity is helplessly hindered from achieving world peace.

This is why I wrote the article "Sowing The Seeds For A Peace Revolution". It offers the opportunity for the general public to properly understand the truth of this matter. People really ought to read this article in its entirety:

- http://www.dailypaul.com/241312/sowing-the-seeds-for-a-peace...

It is well and good if people wish to offer their two cents regarding the 3+ prospective Bible contradictions discussed throughout this thread. However, MORE THAN A THOUSAND TIMES OF GREATER IMPORTANCE is correctly understanding and applying the true essence of love.

So who then will be the first Christian to acknowledge that to this end I have INDEED spoken the truth?




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How dare you question

How dare you question Biblical accuracy! Down votes ahoy haha

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tfichter: Your expertise is again needed

I used this Biblical quote during my discussions with "b."

Mark 16:15
And He said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
http://www.dailypaul.com/265525/3-good-examples-of-bible-err...

"b" told me the following:

Regarding Mark 16:15, there are a few problems with your view. First the authenticity of verses 9-20 are in question by most Bible scholars(including conservative ones). It's normal that churches give disclaimers if they ever preach through Mark and get to this section, some churches won't even cover that section because it is generally rejected as authentic because of manuscript evidence.
http://www.dailypaul.com/265525/3-good-examples-of-bible-err...

Do you concur with b about these verses is the question and my response?
http://www.dailypaul.com/265525/3-good-examples-of-bible-err...

Thanks for your opinion.

SteveMT: Let us look at the passage

You quote Mark 16:15, which supposedly describes the words spoken by Christ just prior to His ascension. What "b" says regarding the text is true. Some Biblical scholars have called the last half of Mark 16 into question because it is completely left out of certain manuscripts. When the KJV was written, these other manuscripts had not yet been discovered. The more recently discovered manuscripts are older than the ones used by the translators of the KJV, so it raises a dilemna. Do we trust the accuracy of a majority of manuscripts which include this portion, or do we trust the older manuscripts? Most Bible printers include the section with a footnote.

However, just because it may or may not have been in the original does not necessarily make it not true. Is there another passage not under the same scrutiny that would validate the truth of Mark 16:15? Why, yes, there is! Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Matthew 28:18-20 comes even closer to the words found in Mark 16:15)

The first half of Acts 1 and the second half of Mark 16 describe the same event - the Ascension of Christ. They agree as to the events that took place. So, I have no problem quoting Mark 16:15, regardless of whether or not it appears in all the manuscripts, because I am not saying anything that is contrary to Scripture.

I would however caution you about picking and choosing which portions of the Bible are inspired and true, and which are not. Yes, men did have to make a choice about the canon of Scripture, but remember, they made that choice about complete books or letters, not particular passages within a book. If you choose to reject a particular passage, then you must reject the whole book. If you accept the Gospels as true, then you must accept the complete Old Testament as true, and inspired, because Jesus in the Gospels validated the inspiration of the OT. Same goes for the letters of Peter and Paul validating the OT. Jesus and Peter validate the words of the apostles as inspired Scripture. When it is all said and done, either you accept the complete Bible as the inspired, inerrant Word of God, or you reject it completely. There really is no middle ground. Jehovah God, as revealed in ALL of Scripture is the One True Triune God. We cannot create a God of our own liking in our heads. That is idolatry.

Biblical scholarship

has practically dismissed these passages and others in all modern English versions of the bible since 1880. ALL modern translation use Greek manuscripts based on codices Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. They are different then what the KJV is translated from. That is why there are so many differences between the modern versions and the KJV.

Codices Sinaiticus and Vaticanus are fourth century documents. They are considered the oldest complete manuscripts in existence. They are hailed as the best and most accurate. It is these two manuscripts that are referenced when you hear bible scholars say the best and most accurate manuscripts don't have such and such.

Google them. Here are afew to get you started.

http://www.scionofzion.com/vaticanus_sinaiticus.htm

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/vaticanus.html

This one covers your original question: http://www.chick.com/information/bibleversions/articles/king...

Hope this helped

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

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Appreciate the feedback on this, Agent86.

I'm sort of shocked. I've heard this passage preached many times. The red letter version of the Bible still has this in Red as if Jesus actually said it. People have no doubt gone to the far ends of the earth using this verse as their inspiration and some no doubt have been killed by hostiles because of this passage. I'm actually feeling pretty sad about hearing this information. Thanks for letting me know though.

I apologize

I seem to have given you the wrong impression. I was criticizing modern biblical scholarship and their choice to "correct" the Bible with those two old corruptions.

Get yourself an old KJV. You don't have to worry about that one.

Peace

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

Let us tackle your second example.

First though, thank you for the kudos, how great or little they may be deserved. I must point out that with my refutation, your title "3 Good Examples of Bible Errancy" is somewhat ironic. With that said, let us move on:

The last words of Christ, as found in the Gospels of Luke and John, upon just a cursory reading, would seem to be contradictory. However, the truth comes only after careful study, as commanded in Scripture (II Tim. 2:15). To arrive at the truth, we must first start with the origin and authors of the Gospels.

Matthew was one of the twelve apostles, and the first to record the message of Jesus Christ, as was being preached and told in the churches. His account of the crucifixion was most likely first hand, and yet it does not mention the exact last words spoken by Christ. Matthew simply says Christ cried out in a loud voice.

The Gospel of Mark was not written by an apostle, nor was the account of the crucifixion first hand. Mark was the nephew of Barnabas, and after leaving his uncle and Paul, returned to Jerusalem, where he served with Peter. Mark's Gospel is most likely a record of the message he heard Peter preaching day in and day out. Mark also does not record the exact last words of Christ, but merely says he cried out in a loud voice.

Luke was a companion of the Apostle Paul, and his Gospel is a record of the message preached by Paul. Paul never says he was an eyewitness of the crucifixion, but it is possible he was a member of the great multitude, especially since he was a Pharisee. Regardless, Paul received his message through special revelation of Jesus Christ, thus qualifying him to be an apostle.

John's Gospel came much later, decades after the other gospels had been written. John's Gospel is different in many ways. His purpose in writing it was not just to give another record of the life and acts of Jesus Christ, but "that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through His name." (John 20:31) John's record contains little that mirrors the other Gospels, rather John chooses to expand the record, giving us particular detail of events, especially of the Passion Week, not given in the Synoptic Gospels.

Understanding all that, now let us look at the three accounts of the last words of Christ.

Matthew:

Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mat 27:47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias.
Mat 27:48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a sponge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink.
Mat 27:49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.
Mat 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
Mat 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

Mark:

Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mar 15:35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
Mar 15:36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down.
Mar 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.
Mar 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.

Luke:

Luk 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.
Luk 23:45 And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.
Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

John:

Joh 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
Joh 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
Joh 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
Joh 19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

So, a comparison of the different passages sheds much light on the subject. Matthew and Mark both mention that Christ was given vinegar (most likely sour wine) to drink, he then cried with a loud voice, and then died. Luke makes no mention of the vinegar, but says that when, or after, Christ had cried with a loud voice, He then said, "Father, into your hands...", and then died.

Along comes John. He has no interest in retelling the exact same thing as given in the other Gospels, but rather gives us details missing in the other accounts. The other Gospels do not tell us that Christ put the care of His mother into the hands of John. The other gospels do not mention that Christ, prior to being offered the vinegar had said, "I thirst." All three other gospels mention that Christ had cried out with a loud voice, and here John fills in the blanks by giving us Christ's exact words, "It is finished!"

So, what happened? Matthew and Mark tell us that Christ cried out in a loud voice, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" John tells us that Christ puts His mother Mary into John's care. John tells us that Christ, knowing that the Scripture had been fulfilled said, "I thirst." Matthew, Mark and John tell us that someone gave Jesus vinegar to drink. Matthew, Mark and Luke tell us that Jesus cried out for a second time in a loud voice, and John tells us that when Jesus cried out, He said, "It is finished!" Luke tells us that when, or after Jesus had cried out, He then said, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." Jesus then died.

Luke and John are not contradictory. They are complementary. When you understand the purpose for the writings of the different Gospels, you will see that even though they all may be talking of the same event, they may tell the story differently. All the details in each individual account are true, and when studied in parallel, you then see the complete picture.

Well Said.

That is why we are told to study the word. 2 Timothy 2:15

That is how supposed contradictions are cleared up.

In daily life we sometimes do the same thing that is done in the Bible. Not give a complete account in one telling.

For example; If had peas and carrots for lunch and someone asks me what I had for lunch and I say peas, and someone else asks and I say carrots, that is not a contradiction. That is a difference. Both are true. There probably is a reason I didn't tell both the same thing.

The same is true in the Bible.

In the Bible when you find hard passages, if you approach them as the Bible is right and you are there to learn and you study other passages, you will learn something. If you don't you will make a mess of it.

There are two common responses to those hard passages. 1. Point the the finger and say "ah ha! The Bible contradicts itself." 2. Go into the Hebrew and Greek and change the meaning to something more suitable. See Hebrews 10:26 in the KJV and NIV for example. Also Philipians 2:6 in the same versions.

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

When I started studying the

When I started studying the Bible I saw many contradictions but I didn't know what was inerrant or my lack of understanding or Biblical mistranslation or translators pretending they are interpreters. Most of these contradictions actually turned out to be apparent contradictions that sharpened my thinking. When I see posts like the one above and the intelligent responses I am confirmed that more often than not the supposed contradictions are actually just apparent. This makes the Scriptures true because if the authors were trying to hide contradictions they would have been more careful to leave out these apparent contradictions as to not confuse people! Anyway, the third "contradiction" on his list I hope for an answer just so I'll know how to respond b/c the word "Jehovah" is used in both those passages. I immediately suppose that a mistake was made in translation but even in the literal translation this error is here. I do not know Hebrew or Greek so I most trust interlinear translations, but I have seen many errors even in these. For example, a common error I noticed was to translate the same exact word in Greek different ways in different passages. I was taught that Yahweh means "I am who I am" and the first instance was at the burning bush to Moses. If God says Abraham knew him by a different name I tend to give God the benefit of the doubt, especially since God cannot lie. So the poster saying the Bible is errant I guess is true on the surface but when you investigate deeper most of my questions have been resolved and instead serves to bolster my trust in Scripture.

doorkeeperJd

Sorry for taking so long to answer your question.

These verses are some of the ones that distinguish a Bible believer from a Bible critic.

As english speaking people, we will stick to the english text and see what we come up with.

Exodus 6:3 " And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them."

Abraham, Issac and Jacob had all heard the word Jehovah. But they did not KNOW God by that. They knew him as God Almighty. When God introduces himself to them in Genesis, there is usually some association of strength. Go back and read the chapters. Starting around chapter 12.

It was to Moses that God proclaimed the name of The LORD.

Exodus 34:5-9 "5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.

6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

9 And he said, If now I have found grace in thy sight, O Lord, let my LORD, I pray thee, go among us; for it is a stiffnecked people; and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for thine inheritance."

Abraham, Issac and Jacob did not know God by versus 6 and 7 above. Exodus 6:3 says so.

I hope that helped.

I would recommend that you get yourself an old KJV Bible. You won't go wrong there. Study that.

God Bless

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

Yes that is helpful. Many

Yes that is helpful. Many Scriptures I leave alone and I get light from other parts of Scripture that helps me interpret the hard parts. God is revealing to Moses himself in a special way and I am studying a course that studies how God reveals in a progressive way where he will start with a seed (a basis concept) and expand on it over time bringing more and more light and details until the word is fulfilled. So perhaps God is revealing his name, his character, progressively as his people had the need to know him more.

A helpful exercise for my was to start studying the NIV, then I studies the ESV, and now I am looking for an Old Testament interlinear version because I am so much enjoying my Greek interlinear translation. I have found so many poor translations and even interpretations that distracted me from hearing the whole truth of what the author was intending. Also, going from liberal to more conservative translations helped me see this. Thanks for your reply although I am a bit scared of KJV because I am quite young and I don't think or pray in KJV as do some older people!

Amen Brother

Very well explained. Peace be with you!

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Biblically Illiterate?

Its said more and more people are so. There are quite a bit of good posts here imo. I fail to see this on the DP along with all the other all time most replied threads ie. religion, etc. :)

Congrats to everyone, even if not everyone always agrees.

Cheers !!

donvino

this posters name should be

this posters name should be more like kakacabeza..

Oh how I wonder, oh how I worry
And I would dearly like to know
How all this squander of earthly plunder
will leave us anything to show

Dr. Paul believes in letting people believe what they want...

....and not getting up in people's business.

I have to ask. Why do you care so much?

If you don't like it, IGNORE IT and leave people alone who do like it.

That's Dr. Paul's way.

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Have you ever heard this phrase before?

"If it's a dream, then let me sleep." I've heard this on several occasions from religious people who wanted to just be left alone in their own comfort zone and belief system. No challenges allowed.

Getting through to them is just like our trying to get through to those who are politically asleep, or the way we were before we were awakened by Ron Paul. If he was not around, we would still be asleep. We still try to talk to those sleeping people even though we know that most of the time we will not succeed.

Challenging what people believe at the proper time and in a non-confrontational way is what I do to at least say that I tried. In addition, I may be the one who will learn something in the process and grow spiritually. By leaving people alone, we will probably remain the same.

I see your point.

It's also a great way to not make friends.

Why not challenge (and beat) someone running for Chair or Vice Chair of your local republican county party?

Put your energy to some use instead of mental m*sturbation.

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I have been thinking long term.

A lifetime versus eternity is a big difference.

There are currently no open positions in my county's Republican Party. After the state convention when all of the Ron Paul delegates got zero representation at Tampa from my state, I really want nothing to do with them.

You're right about the last point, especially if you've read some of the posts below. But, it is rewarding to have some occasional success.

The person who catapolted the revolution and awoke alot

of people is a christian. His name rhymes with Dr. Small...

live breath eat fight struggle liberty

do you call yourself a Deist?

I do and for the same reasons that you pointed out, it is as much as anything else.... a way to get them to THINK!
like you, I think it is rude to attack another's beliefs.
I try to avoid that.
personally I have had the best luck with atheists and agnostics. most of them consider them selves pseudo-scientific. because of my background, I find it easier to pop their bubbles than the starry eyed..... "spiritual" people. many are actually Deists. but we humans are not as smart as they think we are....
peace

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Yup, HVACTech. I appreciated reading your comments.

I too very strongly believe in the Almighty, but that is all that I can say at this point. I also call myself a Deist. I try to keep it simple beyond that. God would not communicate in words is my premise because words can be misinterpreted and mistranslated. That reason alone would be anathema to an unchangeable God. The Bible is an important starting point as are other religious books. I have no quarrel about the good parts of the Bible. Those words may indeed be "The Word of God," but they are buried in an otherwise bunch of hate. These other hateful and illogical words, the wholesale killing, raping, pillaging, and the vindictiveness of it all, no I don't believe it. I appreciate and respect what others believe, and when possible I, challenge both them and myself to see if anything has changed with either of our beliefs.
Peace back your way.

WAKE UP

Religion is slavery. Religion is slavery. Religion is slavery.

Religion was created to divide and conquer us. Muslims hate Jews. Jews hate Muslims. Christians hate Muslims. And guess what? Jews hate Christians!! And for SOME reasons....Christians are taught to WORSHIP Israel!
(Note: There is a fundamental difference between Jews and ZIONIST.) I used to be a Christian. I remember the day I woke up to the lies I had been told my whole life and how I cried. Since then, I have never felt as liberated as I do now. And now, I'm a better "Christian" than most Christians!
There is no historical proof that Jesus ever walked this earth! I could go on and on....not enough time and space. There is life after religious slavery!

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You have got to get through all of these polarizing issues.

The onus is on everyone to sift through all of this hate and divisiveness and come to some sort of spiritual reconciliation. First decide if there is a God or not. No matter what you decide, you have got to find something that works for you and just forget the rest. Find out about becoming a Quaker or a Buddhist. Whatever works for you.

Secret societies

The secret societies on ALL sides have been working TOGETHER behind the scenes fomenting this 'clash of civilizations' for a looonng time - at least since the time of crusades, the Knights Templar, and the Assassins (now called the Freemasons and Ismailis).

The Masons (fake Christians) manipulate the Christians, the Jesuits (fake Catholics) manipulate the Catholics, the Zionist Khazars (fake Jews) manipulate the Jews, and the Ismailis (fake Muslims) manipulate the Muslims. We're all being manipulated by IMPOSTERS and ya'll don't get it! The secret societies have been in cahoots TOGETHER, and against us common folk for ages. WAKE UP EVERYBODY! your neighbor is NOT your enemy!!!!!

Having a "religion" is NOT the same as having FAITH!

And not every Christian worships "Israel" or believes Jews (Zionists) are God's chosen people!

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

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Okay. So, what ?

Okay. So, what ?

http://www.dailypaul.com/265126/judge-napolitano-to-bob-cost...

My name's pronounced like "see real". Its root is "Lord".

"The demand of a great people is always at the scale of its most serious misfortunes." --De Gaulle

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Grasping The Author's Positive Message Behind This Post

Many organized religions, including those stemming from Christianity/The Bible, have misrepresented the most important thing in the universe, which of course is love. Without understanding the true principles of love in the proper context, humanity is helplessly hindered from achieving world peace.

This is why I wrote the article "Sowing The Seeds For A Peace Revolution". It offers the opportunity for the general public to properly understand the truth of this matter. People really ought to read this article in its entirety:

- http://www.dailypaul.com/241312/sowing-the-seeds-for-a-peace...

check it out now, funk sho brother check it out now

Non Violence: Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for those who live by the sword, die by the sword. Matt 26:52.
Meek, Merciful, and Peacemakers: Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth... Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy... Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. Matt 5:5-9.

Forgive Those Who Sin Against Us: Then Peter came up and said to him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven..." Matt 18:21-22

Love your Enemies: But I say to you that hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. Luke 6:27-32

these can all be found at this great site.
http://www.christiansforpeace.org/theo/quotes.html

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What about this

I struggled with this one thing for years before settling it in my heart although I cannot say my thoughts are true.
This one thing is the references to reincarnation like Jesus' reference to John the baptist in Matthew, the man that was born blind in John 9 and some other text that seems to be backed up by things like sowing and reaping.
If this is the case there cannot be the reference to "all" in which "many" would be more to the point. I understand the difficulty with the idea of reincarnation, but because we don't remember doesn't mean it isn't true. I have been counseled by ministers who are suppose to know and have decided the general belief is incorrect since it leaves entirely too many questions that can't be answered. I believe "many" is closer to the truth.
I am also a student but not a scholar. However I find myself disagreeing with scholars on some subjects.

I don't find

any problems with the quoted texts. Daniel is understood simply by reading the verse before. Verse 1 "And at that time". What time is that? When "Michael shall stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."

There is then another resurrection.

You have the one when the graves were opened at Christs resurrection. Then there is another at the end of Revelation 20:12-13 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."

See, more than one resurrection.

Luke and John when taken together you get, It is finished. Father into thy hands I commit my spirit. Those are differences not contradictions.

The thing with Gods name to Abraham is simply the difference of God telling Abraham his name and Abraham experiencing the power of what that name means. Abraham experienced "God Almighty" not "YHWH".

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams