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Help, my husband thinks I'm crazy!

Lately it seems as if my husband thinks I have gone off the deep end. He is a firm believer in personal liberty, but for some reason he refuses to consider that our government is capable of allowing (or staging) things to happen in order to deprive us of said liberties.

He absolutely refuses to believe that FDR had any idea that there was going to be an attack on Pearl Harbor and actually believes that IF building 7 was a controlled demolition then it must have been rigged up AFTER WTC 1 & 2 were struck because it needed to be brought down to avoid more casualties.

He says there is no definitive proof to the contrary and without that it's ridiculous to assume that our government would allow those types of things to happen. Anytime I mention something that is contrary to what the official story is on almost anything (even Lincoln, the USS Liberty, etc.) we seem to end up in a fight with him acting as if I sould be wearing a tin foil hat and living in a fallout shelter. How do you guys handle these things with your significant other?




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Cognitve dissonance.

It may help to understand that 'government' isn't just one group but many groups and much power struggle between them. None really know what all of the others are up to, it just doesn't work that way. It's a Gordian Knot, perhaps only one way to resolve it.

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Sort of in the same boat. My

Sort of in the same boat. My husband is very liberty minded. However, he doesn't believe much in conspiracies. He certainly doesn't think the dollar will crash. He doesn't believe that gold and silver will take off; this is really the only issue we argue about (where to invest). In spite of this, I always ask for the same present for Mother's Day, Birthday and Christmas: silver. Since it is the only gift I want, he obliges.

I do send him articles/research etc. that I come across on the web. I think one day he will come around. Take the advice of some here: just do what you do, and be patient. Best wishes.

What is your goal?

Personally, I think the best thing to do is the here-and-now issues. Instead of trying to rewrite his knowledge of history, focus on the corruption and such going on now. Eventually, all on his own, he'll see the inconsistencies on his own. But whether he does or not is his business. Don't try to change him. Let him be himself.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

maybe. But the history of

maybe. But the history of Rothschild at the battle of Waterloo is pivotal for people to understand how the rothschilds took over the world, and why things are the way they are now.

lawrence

my heart skipped a beat when

my heart skipped a beat when i read that.

it is true, it's one thing to understand that something is wrong and it seems that he's already there (please correct me if i'm wrong)
but it's another thing entirely to understand why and how. and in understanding those things, you understand or begin to understand what one must do to fix or begin to fix the issues that one started with.

sometimes it's difficult. you have to ask him question that make him question the way he thinks.

"well what if this happens?"
"but how?"
those kinds of things.

i've succeeded in partially leading my girlfriend to the liberty side.(she was a hardcore liberal) and it takes time. i've been working on her for at least a year and she's only about half way to realizing even all of the problems that America has.
be patient and good luck.

It's a scary thing. Some

It's a scary thing. Some people are less able to face uncomfortable truths.

Really the ridiculous, and dangerous, thing to assume is the government _wouldn't_ do such a thing since there are numerous times we know governments did. Get him toe read President Hoover's book, recently released, "Freedom Betrayed". Or is a president not a credible enough source?

Whether 9/11 was such a case, the foolish thing is to have blind faith in anything other than your creator. Even if the government didn't do 9/11 the scientific thing would be to assume the null case. In the case of governments that is they are up to no good, unless you have proof otherwise.

States are avaricious entities by their nature. If you see an eviscerated person next to a tiger, you should assume the tiger did it unless you have video proof otherwise. That is not 'jumping to conclusions'.

Just so with governments.

Love

Don't let the negative things in this world penetrate your family unit. In time your husband will see the truth, not by your words but by the actions of truly living out the revolution.

Love God
Love your neighbor
And own Gold not paper money

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Operation Northwoods

Introduce him to Operation Northwoods:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Also, have him watch 911: Road to Tyranny

http://youtu.be/OVMyH8eOHKs

"Unhappy it is, though, to reflect that a brother's sword has been sheathed in a brother's breast and that the once-happy plains of America are either to be drenched with blood or inhabited by slaves. Sad alternative! But can a virtuous man hesitate in hi

You ask him this: Do you

You ask him this:
Do you believe the government always tells the truth?

And you have him.

You can not believe the government isnt always honest and then choose that you believe them regarding a certain subject. If they lie on some things, why could they not lie about this?

On the same note, do people(humans) not lie and do things for their own reasons? Is the government not made of people?
Why is it that people in the government are somehow more honest than any random person on the street? The point is that they are not, so why believe them?

Remain Calm, Stay Rational, and Be Happy

One of the most influential means of persuading others is exhibiting signs that you are happy and fulfilled. A person who believes conspiracies, who is partially deranged, doesn't brush their teeth, and acts like the world is going to end tomorrow, will usually not persuade anyone.

Keep living your life, keep seeking truth, and don't worry so much about whether or not he believes what you believe. One of the biggest turn offs for people when you are trying to persuade them is being "attached to the outcome", where your peace of mind is dependent on whether or not others believe what you believe.

Just like "living well is the greatest form of revenge", you can also say that, "living well is the greatest form of persuasion."

Remain Calm, Stay Rational, and Be Happy.

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Wow, that's some very sound advice!

Coming from experience the hard way, I can say this is some of the best "life" advice I've heard.

And you aren't crazy! Maybe your husband just needs a lot of time so that he can come around to accepting this insane reality we all now occupy.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. Help build it now!

stop having sex with him

stop having sex with him until he starts to 'come around'. You'll be amazed how attitudes and opinions can change. :)

:--)

I find this is what works best on my husband.

"When there is a boot on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left."

Just the opposite!

Give him more love!!! : )

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
--
Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
--
The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. Help build it now!

Surely this is sarcasm.

You cannot enlighten someone by this sort of means. You sound a little like the KGB, "Cause a man enough pain and He'll come around."

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

just the opposite!

Have more sex with him and discuss right after sex. Withdrawing sex is the best way to sabotage the marriage.

Even better, don't talk politics with your significant other if you love him/her and disagree vehemently. A good relationship does not need politics.

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

This is complete

bull$hit and I can't believe it has "+7". My wife and I became more close when we started to realize what our "elected" leaders our doing to Our Country.

C'mon guys.

Lima-1, out.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Have him watch

some of the 9/11 documentaries where you can clearly see the diagonally sliced steel beams sticking out of the rubble, evidence of shape charges.
I knew it was a black flag op when the buildings were so obviously imploded after a few hours. No brainer. Building 7? What more does he need?

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He just hasn't cracked yet. Try "The Fog of War"

Once he experiences learning a contrary truth, the doors are open.

I don't spend much time perpetuating doubt to those not open to it.
However, you can show undeniable historical corrections.

Instead of having him doubt you, have him hear it from the horses mouth.

I would show him one strong item at a time, starting with Vietnam and the idea that the north was siding with China or Russia for a communist take-over of south Vietnam.

RobertMcNamera says the correction himself, just a few years before he dies.

Show him an excerpt from "The Fog of War" at about 1-hour 18-minutes.

Here is an excerpt of this on YouTube:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzY_ykQ3qg

Then, maybe his eyes may open to the fact that the people of our government are often just as dumb as everyone else, even at the top.

I just tell my wife what she wants to hear

and do what I want anyway -never helps to argue about things.

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

That is so sad

That is not what makes for a relationship based on truth or trust.

You have every right as the head of your home to do "what you want" without telling your wife "what she wants to hear." She and your relationship would be so better served if you tell her the truth and let her deal with it.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
--
Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
--
The local church(not a building -a people) is the missing link. Help build it now!

smart man

some will never learn, though

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Great Vid

I think this video will definatly help you out. They are psychologist that actually explain the denial.
http://youtu.be/pGbEJ3pXwWM

Ron Paul 2012

I feel for you

I am sure it is rough. Is he willing to look at the information? Here is a great video about 9-11 I watched last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVtIPCIvsdc. I have watched countless 9-11 films and I was surprised this one had quite a bit of footage and information that even I hadn't seen or heard. I guess I am lucky that my fiance gets it. Good luck getting him to take the blinders off. Cognitive dissonance can be a powerful force.

Hmmmm....

D I V O R C E

Divorce? Don't you know that our loss of liberty is directly

proportional to the break up of the family?

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Don't you know that choosing

the wrong life partner can make you miserable for your entire life?

My mom divorced my dad when I was 8 years old and it was the best thing that ever could have happened....wish she would have done it sooner...our lives were a living HELL on earth. Do not stay in a bad marriage....D I V O R C E can be very good!

Love all those down votes...probably from people that have been, will be or should be D I V O R C E D.

or maybe from adults who used

or maybe from adults who used to be children whose selfish parents ruined their young lives!

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Agree to disagree, offer something better, and have patience.

On sensitive areas, it can often be helpful to agree to disagree, drop the subject, at least for now, and concentrate on areas of discussionn where you can find yourselves in more agreement.

One should also never miss an opportunity to offer your listeners something better.

When Ron Paul talks about the FED, for example, he doesn't only point out the dangers and irresponsibility of wrecking the global economy with central banking and its fiat money. He (and others like von Mises, Rothbard, Sennholz, et al) also remind us how much better off we would all be, and how much more secure our future would be, with sound money. We are reminded about how much more prosperous an economy which avails itself of gold and silver (and BITCOIN, no doubt)--a choice in money--over a badly defective and corrupt current system would be, and how worthy a goal it is to strive for!

Find opportunities to offer more simple and complete explanations in the case of "conspiracy" and, if accepted, go on from there. There may indeed be issues like 9-11, which are just too sensitive for rational discussion on his part in the foreseeable future,but there are also a lot of events which may be discussed where your opinions about conspiracy explanations may be accepted as helpful; perhaps those where you are discussing events which are deep enough in the past so that it may discredit the present criminal elites on some issues without provoking any feeling on his part that you are "crazy".

Properly researched and articulated conspiracy theories can often make events much clearer and simpler then the convoluted nest of lies and coverups offered by establishment sources.

A bit of patience goes a long way. It is as difficult for a person who is resistant to "conspiracy theories" to accept them, as it would be for you to completely deny such an approach even when the conspiracies have been shown to exist.

I hope that this is helpful.

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is not to be attacked successfully, it is to be defended badly". F. Bastiat

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, finally they attack you, and then you win"! Mohandas Gandhi

You can always

marry me! Just kidding but I have the same problem with my girlfriend. She thinks I'm crazy a lot of times.Now I learned to not talk about those things unless she asks about things like that. Little by little shes come a long way. You just can't force your beliefs on him to strongly.

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