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Help, my husband thinks I'm crazy!

Lately it seems as if my husband thinks I have gone off the deep end. He is a firm believer in personal liberty, but for some reason he refuses to consider that our government is capable of allowing (or staging) things to happen in order to deprive us of said liberties.

He absolutely refuses to believe that FDR had any idea that there was going to be an attack on Pearl Harbor and actually believes that IF building 7 was a controlled demolition then it must have been rigged up AFTER WTC 1 & 2 were struck because it needed to be brought down to avoid more casualties.

He says there is no definitive proof to the contrary and without that it's ridiculous to assume that our government would allow those types of things to happen. Anytime I mention something that is contrary to what the official story is on almost anything (even Lincoln, the USS Liberty, etc.) we seem to end up in a fight with him acting as if I sould be wearing a tin foil hat and living in a fallout shelter. How do you guys handle these things with your significant other?



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Let's ask ourselves a question.......

Maybe in asking some questions, we can find an answer?

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Why do we find it relevant that people wake up?

Why do we go thru (sometimes great) attempts to get others to look?

Why do we care?

Does it really matter?

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Maybe in being able to point these kind of things out (articulate) we can get a little further?

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Cyril's picture

Yes, and : what is even worse than HATE ?

Yes, and :

What is even worse than HATE ?

Could that be indifference ? http://www.dailypaul.com/253384/war-child

I'm very sorry if it's hard to watch. But that's WHAT it is.

All along in the 20th century AND ongoing in the 21st. That one of the iPhone.

"Bear."

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Interesting you bring this

Interesting you bring this up. I had posted the Admiral Kimmel video clip on Facebook today and mentioned the fact that I believed that FDR did have information that Pearl Harbor would be attacked but I didn't have the source to confirm it. A former senate candidate (Ron Paul supporter and very intelligent I might add) from my district made a comment publicly that it wasn't just heresay; that there were documents that proved FDR could've contacted Pearl Harbor before the attack. I also had a veteran friend who said Patton warned them that they shouldn't have so many ships in one harbor. Maybe friends on this thread can give you some links to these sources. I don't know them right off but would be happy to see them myself.

chennault was bombing the

chennault was bombing the japanese at least 6 months before the japanese bombed pearl harbor. but they were called "mercenaries".

lawrence

the stranger's picture

Well, maybe you are.

Your hobby, not his.

But it sounds like all you want for Christmas is the truth. If you really want to push it I recommend the book The Biggest Con. A good read for a guy. Satisfaction guaranteed.

If he thinks that's bad......

How has he been able to deal with the Twinkie shortage?

I mean, the TV tells me that that's what is the real BIG issue is these daze and that's all were supposed to think about and talk about.

Blinders are for horses......

Eh, I'll stop now before I say some things I might regret, (but probably wouldn't).....

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Have him watch

America freedom to fascism

Cognitve dissonance.

It may help to understand that 'government' isn't just one group but many groups and much power struggle between them. None really know what all of the others are up to, it just doesn't work that way. It's a Gordian Knot, perhaps only one way to resolve it.

JustLiberty4US's picture

Sort of in the same boat. My

Sort of in the same boat. My husband is very liberty minded. However, he doesn't believe much in conspiracies. He certainly doesn't think the dollar will crash. He doesn't believe that gold and silver will take off; this is really the only issue we argue about (where to invest). In spite of this, I always ask for the same present for Mother's Day, Birthday and Christmas: silver. Since it is the only gift I want, he obliges.

I do send him articles/research etc. that I come across on the web. I think one day he will come around. Take the advice of some here: just do what you do, and be patient. Best wishes.

What is your goal?

Personally, I think the best thing to do is the here-and-now issues. Instead of trying to rewrite his knowledge of history, focus on the corruption and such going on now. Eventually, all on his own, he'll see the inconsistencies on his own. But whether he does or not is his business. Don't try to change him. Let him be himself.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

maybe. But the history of

maybe. But the history of Rothschild at the battle of Waterloo is pivotal for people to understand how the rothschilds took over the world, and why things are the way they are now.

lawrence

my heart skipped a beat when

my heart skipped a beat when i read that.

it is true, it's one thing to understand that something is wrong and it seems that he's already there (please correct me if i'm wrong)
but it's another thing entirely to understand why and how. and in understanding those things, you understand or begin to understand what one must do to fix or begin to fix the issues that one started with.

sometimes it's difficult. you have to ask him question that make him question the way he thinks.

"well what if this happens?"
"but how?"
those kinds of things.

i've succeeded in partially leading my girlfriend to the liberty side.(she was a hardcore liberal) and it takes time. i've been working on her for at least a year and she's only about half way to realizing even all of the problems that America has.
be patient and good luck.

It's a scary thing. Some

It's a scary thing. Some people are less able to face uncomfortable truths.

Really the ridiculous, and dangerous, thing to assume is the government _wouldn't_ do such a thing since there are numerous times we know governments did. Get him toe read President Hoover's book, recently released, "Freedom Betrayed". Or is a president not a credible enough source?

Whether 9/11 was such a case, the foolish thing is to have blind faith in anything other than your creator. Even if the government didn't do 9/11 the scientific thing would be to assume the null case. In the case of governments that is they are up to no good, unless you have proof otherwise.

States are avaricious entities by their nature. If you see an eviscerated person next to a tiger, you should assume the tiger did it unless you have video proof otherwise. That is not 'jumping to conclusions'.

Just so with governments.

Phxarcher87's picture

Love

Don't let the negative things in this world penetrate your family unit. In time your husband will see the truth, not by your words but by the actions of truly living out the revolution.

Love God
Love your neighbor
And own Gold not paper money

THE CLASS OF CITIZENS WHO PROVIDE AT ONCE THEIR OWN FOOD AND THEIR OWN RAIMENT, MAY BE VIEWED AS THE MOST TRULY INDEPENDENT AND HAPPY.
James Madison

Operation Northwoods

Introduce him to Operation Northwoods:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Also, have him watch 911: Road to Tyranny

http://youtu.be/OVMyH8eOHKs

You ask him this: Do you

You ask him this:
Do you believe the government always tells the truth?

And you have him.

You can not believe the government isnt always honest and then choose that you believe them regarding a certain subject. If they lie on some things, why could they not lie about this?

On the same note, do people(humans) not lie and do things for their own reasons? Is the government not made of people?
Why is it that people in the government are somehow more honest than any random person on the street? The point is that they are not, so why believe them?

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Remain Calm, Stay Rational, and Be Happy

One of the most influential means of persuading others is exhibiting signs that you are happy and fulfilled. A person who believes conspiracies, who is partially deranged, doesn't brush their teeth, and acts like the world is going to end tomorrow, will usually not persuade anyone.

Keep living your life, keep seeking truth, and don't worry so much about whether or not he believes what you believe. One of the biggest turn offs for people when you are trying to persuade them is being "attached to the outcome", where your peace of mind is dependent on whether or not others believe what you believe.

Just like "living well is the greatest form of revenge", you can also say that, "living well is the greatest form of persuasion."

Remain Calm, Stay Rational, and Be Happy.

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Wow, that's some very sound advice!

Coming from experience the hard way, I can say this is some of the best "life" advice I've heard.

And you aren't crazy! Maybe your husband just needs a lot of time so that he can come around to accepting this insane reality we all now occupy.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

stop having sex with him

stop having sex with him until he starts to 'come around'. You'll be amazed how attitudes and opinions can change. :)

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

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I find this is what works best on my husband.

Just the opposite!

Give him more love!!! : )

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
--
"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

Surely this is sarcasm.

You cannot enlighten someone by this sort of means. You sound a little like the KGB, "Cause a man enough pain and He'll come around."

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

just the opposite!

Have more sex with him and discuss right after sex. Withdrawing sex is the best way to sabotage the marriage.

Even better, don't talk politics with your significant other if you love him/her and disagree vehemently. A good relationship does not need politics.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

This is complete

bull$hit and I can't believe it has "+7". My wife and I became more close when we started to realize what our "elected" leaders our doing to Our Country.

C'mon guys.

Lima-1, out.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Have him watch

some of the 9/11 documentaries where you can clearly see the diagonally sliced steel beams sticking out of the rubble, evidence of shape charges.
I knew it was a black flag op when the buildings were so obviously imploded after a few hours. No brainer. Building 7? What more does he need?

Garan's picture

He just hasn't cracked yet. Try "The Fog of War"

Once he experiences learning a contrary truth, the doors are open.

I don't spend much time perpetuating doubt to those not open to it.
However, you can show undeniable historical corrections.

Instead of having him doubt you, have him hear it from the horses mouth.

I would show him one strong item at a time, starting with Vietnam and the idea that the north was siding with China or Russia for a communist take-over of south Vietnam.

RobertMcNamera says the correction himself, just a few years before he dies.

Show him an excerpt from "The Fog of War" at about 1-hour 18-minutes.

Here is an excerpt of this on YouTube:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzY_ykQ3qg

Then, maybe his eyes may open to the fact that the people of our government are often just as dumb as everyone else, even at the top.

I just tell my wife what she wants to hear

and do what I want anyway -never helps to argue about things.

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

That is so sad

That is not what makes for a relationship based on truth or trust.

You have every right as the head of your home to do "what you want" without telling your wife "what she wants to hear." She and your relationship would be so better served if you tell her the truth and let her deal with it.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
--
"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

smart man

some will never learn, though

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Great Vid

I think this video will definatly help you out. They are psychologist that actually explain the denial.
http://youtu.be/pGbEJ3pXwWM