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POLL: At this point, would you support Rand in 2016 for President?

At this point, would you support Rand in 2016 for President?

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For future reference

its probably not a very good idea to post a poll that the enemy who drops in everyday can pass around and tell people to vote on...;)

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Only if the LP picks someone horrible

Otherwise if Gary Johnson or someone like that ran for them I would definitely support that person over Rand. Rand's just not that good. Yes by establishment standards he's decent compared to the rest of the Congress, I get that, but by libertarian standards he doesn't cut it.

good comment

Then you need to make sure you attend the LP Convention as a delegate and support the candidate of your liking. Don't be one of these people who watch the LP nomination contest from the sidelines, then turn around when it's over and blame every Libertarian for a horrible candidate (i.e. Bob Barr) grabbing up the nomination.

If you like Johnson and don't attend the conventions to support him, don't say "the LP really blew it this time" when he doesn't get the nomination. If you're a pro-life libertarian and don't attend the conventions to delegate for a pro-life candidate, don't talk smack when a pro-choice candidate wins the nomination. If you are anti-tax and don't attend the convention in support of a better plan, don't pound your fist when a fair tax or flat tax candidate arrives with enough delegates to win the nomination. Open borders or secure borders? Marriage equality or separation of marriage and state? No matter what the issue is, who wins and who loses is decided by those who actually show up. That's one lesson everyone should've learned from their experience in the RP run - winning is often a matter of just showing up when it really counts.

Like the lottery, you got to play to win.

Traitors get no support

Not now nat ever. Betray me once shame on you, betray me twice, its not gona happen.

sovereign

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rand never betrayed libtards. he doesnt want thier support and neither does ron, but ron will never say that aloud.. rand supported romney to purge the liberal freaks from his following and it was an awesome strategic move to make, and many libs exited and are now looking at hillary as they should be!!!!!lol
and his vote for sanctions that was 98 to zero purged the rest of the libs that were left after the romney endorsement!!lol
what rand did is pure genius!

but thanks for all your donations.

just for kicks- i know i will hate myself..
but did you know ron and rand are republicans???

just how did rand betray you, pray tell? are you a republican?? that sent him money?
no youre not. so how did rand betray a bleeding vag lib?
cant wait to hear this one, it should be quite RICH.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Holy Cow! Are you angry? I

Holy Cow! Are you angry? I mean...I agree with you but I sense anger or something.

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i hate the liberals here who bash rand and give a pass to kucinich and hillary and harry stink up the house reid. kucinich sold out obammyscare on AF 1. not a peep. rand "supports" the republican nominee, and never endorsed him, but they go crazy!!!! freaking retards.
they pluck at republicans like rand paul but say nothing about their repugnant heros who they would support in a min. go to the rand vs kucinich thread.. here they are saying dennis married ron paul!!lol
I cant make it up. Just because ron is nice to someone like GJ or DK, liberals run the "rons a good friend, or ron just about endorsed" when nothing of the kind is fact. ron will NEVER run with dennis kucinich and HATES how kucinich views the constitution.

obama just signed the ndaa and is all the libs can talk about is rand voted yes, and he explained his position which is a worthy and consistent constitutional position and the confused libs here oh,
its just sickening and they make me sick is all. it started 6 mos ago when i realized the liberals here tried to usurp pauls rally with gjtardfest, ever since then ive been pissed!
libs need to stay the hell away from ron and rand paul. they infect everything they get involved in and are mindless MORONS who are not conservative, constitutional or even know anything about economics which ron paul taught them all and gave them their current knowledge and THEY STILL CANT SEE.
im tired of morons.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I agree. But I try and not

I agree. But I try and not let it anger me. Stay focused. Most of these libs don't make a difference in the outcome of politics either way. It is peeps like us who actually get in the game and make real change. We are the ones taking over the GOP and electing our liberty candidates. We are the ones who did precisely what Ron Paul instructed us to do. We didn't jump ship when times got hard. We are the ones who will win in the end.

They live in a dream world. They think their is going to be a bloody revolution and the people will rise up. They are wrong.

We win the revolution with politics and we elect people who can play the game. That is precisely what Rand is doing.

Soon enough the libs will catch on. We won't win by shouting Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul. We win by playing ball. We become the ball players.

No Way

No how...

Then you are doing nothing

Then you are doing nothing for the Liberty movement. It's a damn shame too because I just said what Ron Paul told us to do to win. Didn't you get the memo?

Ron Paul wants everyone to do

Ron Paul wants everyone to do what they feel is right to advance the liberty movement. I don't remember him ever telling all of his supporters that we must join the GOP. And stop it with the 'libs' comments. If you still don't realize that the right/left liberal/conservative paradigm is nothing but a smokescreen, you could be suffering from blindness. You want candidates who will 'play ball' for the good old boys GOP club. You sound just like The Granger, and I won't fall for that shit.

Jason

Happy Libertarian

It's Time for the Republican Party to Die!

It's terribly unwise to judge politicians by what they say rather than what they do. Rand Paul is an establishment guy who's for all those things the gang wants while telling you the opposite. My guess is that the Republicans will lose again in 2016 because we weren't successful in dethroning the crooks that we've been calling the "establishment GOP".

Don't worry about it if you think I'm wrong. It's not worth debating. If Rand Paul really is a serious deal, they won't let him succeed. So, if he has a real shot at the R nomination, then he's not the real deal. If he is the real deal, he won't be the R nominee.

Oh Gosh! Got to jump on the bandwagon because I didn't do it last time? No thanks. A Republican Party candidate will get my vote and support when one comes along who deserves it. The way things look right now, that won't be any time soon. If you don't want another four years with a Democrat in the White House, it's time, right now, to start working toward getting a third party candidate in line for a serious run.

Correlation does not prove causality!

The GOP is not going to die

The GOP is not going to die because we didn't dethrone the crooks...they will die because America wants socialism. They want government handouts. I saw a bumper sticker today that read "I love Obamacare". The people are just that stupid.

But the GOP won't die because they will just turn into democrats to pander to the demographics so they can win. We are already seeing the shift. We are going to lose our movement if we don't educate the masses.

I agree man, death to the GOP

And how about only needing to get 34 percent of the vote instead of 51? I say it's time for everyone to pile into the Libertarian party. It's not 1988 any more, now we have the internet and the gatekeepers can't suppress us like they did Ron back in those days.

Has it occurred to anyone

Has it occurred to anyone that Rand will be the only Republican running in 2016 who opposes the Patriot Act, opposes indefinite detention, and was opposed to the Iraq war? Does supporting the Bill of Rights and opposing pre-emptive war not mean anything to people here?

Screw the GOP. The good Paul

Screw the GOP. The good Paul is leaving Washington, and we're left with the leftovers. Not good enough. Rand isn't principled like his father. No, he 'plays ball' with the 'team'. And he will continue to become more and more like a typical Republican senator, wait and see.

Jason

Happy Libertarian

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they are libs- you are wasting your time.
they cant wrap their minds around conservative constitutional gvt and never will.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Turn off Limbaugh, Hannity,

Turn off Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck for once and start thinking for yourself. 'Libs'? Really? I'm apparently a 'lib' because I refuse to compromise with a bought and sold, corrupt Republican party that is on its way out... please.

Jason

Happy Libertarian

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shows what you know.
limbaugh and hannity are NOT conservatives.
Just because Maddow, matthews and olberman say it, doesnt make it so-
so turn off lib TV and think for yourself.

republican party is changing and est. is being shown the door.
you are not a part of the party so turn off msnbc and CNN and join a tea party or become republican like ron asked of you, and stop spewing your info from msnbc and bill maher. it is not becoming of you!

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

According to the list

According to the list that 'establishment' put out, yes.

You are hyper-active, charge ahead and accept anything without deep thought or consideration.

Josie The Outlaw http://www.josietheoutlaw.com/

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I have no idea what that

I have no idea what that means. You didn't answer my question.

Slow down

Slow down and read carefully. I have answered all questions precisely, and accurately.

I have also offered you a suggestion.

Josie The Outlaw http://www.josietheoutlaw.com/

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Just because Rand and Amash

Just because Rand and Amash backed Romney, doesn't mean they changed their political views. They both have great voting records.

Shills are easy to discover

Shills are easy to discover because they lie all the time.

Amash did not endorse Romney.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/09/thre...

Ever wondered who the

Ever wondered who the co-chairs of Arab Americans for Romney were?

http://www.aaiusa.org/blog/entry/romney-campaign-announces-a...

Amash did not formally endorse Romney, but he did support Romney after the convention, while Ron did not. He frequently praised Paul Ryan prior to the election and also attacked Gary Johnson.

Justin Amash is a good guy and worth supporting, but not the anti-establishment hero you think he is.

Amash draws a distinction

Amash draws a distinction between supporting and endorsing.

“Rep. Amash endorsed Ron Paul for president and will not be making any other endorsements for president,” said Will Adams, a spokesman for Amash. “He has said from the beginning that he would support the Republican nominee against President Obama.”

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they dont want the truth, so dont waste your time.
they hate republicans and always will and were foolish to support either drs paul and they are NOW aware of just how foolish and it is hilarious.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

No, I Would Not.

He is not to be trusted.

He is a willing player of the establishment republican-machine.

Split down the middle. He is

Split down the middle.

He is still far and away better than most other people there. I say we should see what happens in the next couple years and then decide.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.