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POLL: At this point, would you support Rand in 2016 for President?

At this point, would you support Rand in 2016 for President?

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"most libertarian President in our nation's history"

LOL.. sure buddy.

"Rand already has a favorability rating among Republicans of +31"

Yeah and that's a problem... If the rank and file like him, chances are, he's one of them. Unless you think the rank and file have had a sudden change of heart too. lol

The Libertarians won't vote for him and neither will Ron Paulers which will be about the same amount that Romney didn't get to win. Keep telling yourself different though. :)

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A Real Conservative

I am calling you out. After reading most of your posts, I have come to this conclusion:

YOU are a SHILL.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I'm a shill for liberty!

I'm a shill for liberty!

Anyone that could put Rand up as the most Libertarian

president in our nation's history, doesn't have a clue what Liberty is.

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I guess the irony is lost on everyone here. :)

A person going by the name "compromise" asks if we'll do just that by supporting someone less than what we want.

Maybe this is some sort of Roger Stone tactic too.. Bombard the DP with Rand Paul stuff 4 years early till people are sick of hearing about him. :)

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rp4pres

I am saddened by some of the members of this board. I looked so forward to after election to discuss each and every potential candidate, create wonderful comparison sheets based upon extensive voting records, fully VET them, and after convincing agreement, fully support that candidate. To the contrary, it is nothing more than a popularity contest, much like gj, and now this.

It is not January, Ron has not even begun his college speaking tour yet.

:-(

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I feel more disgusted PAF.

Hopefully someone will step forward that the majority of us can support, meanwhile, I'm working locally.

I wish someone would step up now so that I can start donating now. I'm waiting to see what Nap does myself.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Somebody please check the integrity of the poll.

I looked at poll results prior to casting a vote. I then voted and the result did not reflect my vote. I hit refresh but the number did not change.

Even among the DP is not immune, I suspect.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Strawpoll.me is an

Strawpoll.me is an independent site with nothing to do with me. I created the poll, but I can't alter the results or block people's votes on this site. Any problem you encounter should be taken up with Strawpoll.me.

Sounds like an obam-ney response to me.

You created the poll, but it is up to me to figure out? Maybe I will, as I take responsibility for myself and my actions. But it also shows that you have no integrity when something you started is questioned.

As I have done with A Real Conservative, I hereby call you out, based upon your posts and responses:

You are a SHILL.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I suggest you make your own

I suggest you make your own strawpoll.me and try to figure out a way to manipulate the results. The creator of a poll on this site cannot. Either you are suggesting I'm conspiring with staff of that website, or that I'm some sort of computer hacker.

Vs Who?

" At this point, would you support Rand in 2016 for President? "
Vs Who?
(forgive spelling)
Vs Romney? Yes.
Vs Obama? Oh hell yes.
Vs Paul Ryan? Yes.
Vs Allen West? Yes.
Vs Chris Christie? Yes.
Vs Marco Rubio? Yes.
Vs Jim Dimint? Yes.

Vs Ron Paul? No.
Vs Peter Schiff? No.

Vs Gary Johnson? Maybe.

Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, and

Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, and Gary Johnson are not running in the GOP primary in 2016. I doubt if Gary will run 3rd party in 2016 either. Rumor has it that he's thinking about running for the Senate in New Mexico in 2014.

remember Ron ran LP

then went back to GOP. Johnson can do the same.

Ron Paul/Gary Johnson 2016

Dream on...

Ron won't run again and Gary will never stand a chance unless he runs as a Republican. Peter needs to win something else first.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

I'm surprised there's so many no votes in that poll.

It seems to me that among people who post here there are more that support Rand than those that don't. Maybe I'm wrong.

The results over at Ron Paul

The results over at Ron Paul forums are exactly the opposite. Over there it's 92% "yes" and 8% "no."

No.

He has already disappointed me to many times in his time as a Senator for me to vote for, let alone support his campaign.

I don't think I'm going to participate in this sham we call elections anymore. At least not until we can establish a legitimate voting system.

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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009

he's uninspiring

& his lack of principles (endorsing & campaigning for evil) just because he has ambition for power; & he doesn't sound like the sharpest pencil.
rachel maddow (who i don't like) early on had him stumbling all over himself, and looking like a deer caught in the head lights.
when he speaks i feel myself wanting to take a nap.
surely the freedom movement can do better than this.

Why settle on Rand this early? Draft the Judge!

Draft Judge Andrew Napolitano! He can ensure the torch burns brightly better than Rand ever could!
http://andrewnapolitano.com/

Don't get me wrong. I

Don't get me wrong. I actually think Andrew Napolitano would be the greatest choice in all of America, save Ron Paul himself.

I just think it's unrealistic for him to rise to the Presidency in only 4 years. He needs to take some steps before that. At the very least, he would need to win a Congressional seat or any statewide office.

I don't like to compromise, but I don't think he is the lesser of evils. I think he is a lesser GOOD. He is a first step in swaying the public at large.

After a Rand administration, I am hoping someone like Napolitano would have a realistic chance (assuming he even wants to run for office).

tired of hearing "too unrealistic"....

Was the revolution that created a nation in 1776 too unrealistic? Many of the time said so. How could a band of rebels possibly win against the largest and most powerful military might of the world?

How could a constitutional judge ever become President? How could The People win against the large and powerful puppet masters? The People wield an enormously large power if they just would wake up and realize it. We have 4 years to educate in a period of awakening. If Ron Paul himself does not run and Rand fails to prove himself to his father and to The People, we NEED Napolitano to take the call of The People. Even if that means running as an independent. Of course that would mean we must use grassroots at all levels to get him on every state ballot and in the debates. May the Lord be with us on such a monumental feat, but it is what we may just need to do if nothing else comes on the horizon... For Liberty!

The Judge isn't a politician,

The Judge isn't a politician, isn't a Republican, and wouldn't have any chance at all to win the GOP nomination even if he were a Republican. Rand is the only liberty candidate who's actually in position to be competitive in the GOP primary in 2016.

I would not.

I do not consent to being governed by anyone without my explicit contractually arranged consent and therefor I will not ever participate in the charade that is the political process.

If he is the GOP nominee,

If he is the GOP nominee, then yes. He won't give the same level of inspiration that Dr. Paul gave, but he is in a better position than anyone else "on our side" to win.

Don't get me wrong, I disagree with a lot of what he has done. Some things have been disappointing, to say the least. However, I'm willing to overlook some of his strategy.

MrSmit, your post greatly saddened me.

"I disagree with a lot of what he has done. Some things have been disappointing, to say the least. However, I'm willing to overlook some of his strategy."

Forgive me for singling you out, that is not the intent. This is directed toward everybody here:

That is one of the most disgusting responses that I have read on this forum. r3VOLution is all but gone, and have not learned a thing from Dr. Paul, or this movement.

Ron Paul has said at Texas Convention: "Why support something if it's for the wrong reason".

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I may disagree with Rand on a

I may disagree with Rand on a few things, but I agree with him on 90% of the issues. I don't call that supporting for the wrong reason, nor would I consider it "disgusting."

Rand endorsed Romney, whom I consider despicable.
Ron endorsed Lamar Smith, whom I also consider despicable.

You will never find a perfect man for the job. If you don't think Rand is pure enough for you, then I can respect that, and I advise you to put focus into local races where it would be easier to get someone who is pure enough by your standards.

But you aren't doing any favors by dismissing Rand Paul.

I may have chosen too harsh of a word.

"I advise you to put focus into local races where it would be easier to get someone who is pure enough by your standards."

Yes, that is in progress.

"You will never find a perfect man for the job."

You are obviously blinded by hype. Open your eyes and you will see.

"But you aren't doing any favors by dismissing Rand Paul."

I will do what I must.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Absolutely, yes.

Absolutely, yes.

Interesting poll.

Questions:

Have you fully vetted your potential candidate?

Have you fully vetted other potential candidates?

How do each, your candidate and others, represent your own personal beliefs and principles.

How do each, your candidate and others, represent Liberty, Freedom, beliefs and principles.

Have you created a spreadsheet/comparison sheet that backs up your data, one that you can share with the rest of us?

Otherwise, it is nothing more than a "hey vote for my candidate because I think he is cool!" poll. You know, much like the hardcore bush/gore/hillary/obama/romney supporters did.

The reason that I ask is because I would just hate for fox/nbc to come out with another article claiming that our IQ's are similar to establishment republicans.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul