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Poll: If you had to choose, who would you vote for in 2016 in a race between Republican Rand Paul and Democrat Dennis Kucinich?

http://strawpoll.me/5644

I'm sorry if some of you are getting tired of polls, and I apologize if posting another poll irrates you. That isn't my intention. My intention in posting this particular poll is just to try to understand why so many people here won't support Rand Paul. Is it because there are just a lot of hardcore libertarians here who don't believe that Rand Paul is libertarian enough? Is there there really just a lot of left wing liberals here who only supported Ron because he wanted to end the wars and legalize drugs? I've seen a lot of praise and a lot of support for Dennis Kucinich here, and many people have even said that they would support him for President or would want him to be Ron's VP pick. This is despite the fact that Kucinich has anti liberty views on about 80-90% of the issues. Rand Paul has received A TON of hatred from the people on this forum, even though he takes pro liberty positions on 98% of the issues. So I would just like to know where people are coming from and who they would support in a matchup between Rand Paul and Dennis Kucinich in 2016. I would GREATLY appreciate your participation in this poll! Thanks!!

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he also sold out on abama scare in AF 1..
libtards forget so easily.
dennis had the power to bring it back to the house for reconciliation
and caved.
dennis could have stopped this nightmare.
he sold out to the cnstitution and he sold out his single payer lib fans.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

let it go already

its all of this stupid "why don't you like rand" that makes me hate hearing the name rand. let it go already. in 2 or 3 years, ask the question again. until then, stop wasting your time.

honestly, the republican establishment spent the entire primary season telling us to just get on board with their guy rather than let time run its course and see who people really wanted.

in 2016, if rand is the best man, may he win.
if he isn't, may the best man win (or woman, as the case may be).

until then, occupy yourself with spreading the message of freedom (not the message of Rand Paul, or even Ron Paul)

its not about the man, its about the message.

Kucinich!!!!

Rand Who?

53% for Kucinich,

47% for that other guy.

The little neoconservative twerp has been jumped by Mr. Dead, as far
as us anarcholibertarian Ron Paulers are concerned.

Its [0V3R], rat boy.

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rand paul came on the scene 2 years ago.
dennis has been there for 20yrs..
rand is essentially neck and neck with one of americas biggest libs.
that speaks volumes
it was kucinich who sold out libtards on single payer inside AF 1...
dennis had it in his power to bring it to another vote which harry reid couldnt send it back to the house. it barely passed as a MANDATE the first time.
dennis sold out and it was sent to the pres. desk as a MANDATE NOT A TAX.
then midstream before the SCOTUS got a hold of it, the administration flipped and called it a tax and roberts agreed, which it was a tax.
the problem?
any tax levied on the american people has to go back to the house for reconciliation and that never happened.. why? wait for it..
because they called it a mandate at that time- even though it was a tax.
harry didnt want to send back to the house- so this legislation can be challenged and will be abolished if the right attys get a hold of it.
roberts was smart to agree and call it a tax.
all we have to do is go back and see if the TAX was passed properly through the house as the constitution mandates.
dennis the sell out culd have used his power to demand it be brought back to the house instead folded inside AF1 and disappointed all his followers and ron has never spoken to him again.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

60-40 isn't neck and neck,

60-40 isn't neck and neck, it's a landslide in Kucinich's favor.

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bwaaaahahahahahha!
rachel, is that you??

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

No. I'm being realistic. If

No. I'm being realistic. If this were an election, it would be landslide. This proves that a majority of Daily Paulers are either socialists or are comfortable with electing socialists as POTUS, as long as they are 'anti-establishment' (even though Kucinich endorsed Obama).

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how is dennis anti est. pray

how is dennis anti est. pray tell?
he sold out the fed audit bill and single payer obabcare!!

some anti est candidate dennis would be!!
nice try though.
and i doubt very seriously you speak for a "majority of DP'ers"
doubt VERY seriously.
nice to see you admit you would support a socialist though.
I always knew you were one.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

"how is dennis anti est. pray

"how is dennis anti est. pray tell? he sold out the fed audit bill and single payer obabcare!!"
Most Daily Paulers view him as anti-establishment because of his rhetoric and so gravitate towards him, as with other socialists like Jesse Ventura, Angus King and Bernie Sanders. As you have said, he is not.

"and i doubt very seriously you speak for a "majority of DP'ers"
doubt VERY seriously."
I do. Look at the polls I've posted and those that A Real Conservative has posted. This site is teeming with socialists, social democrats, social liberals and progressives.

"nice to see you admit you would support a socialist though.
I always knew you were one."
1) Where exactly did I admit I would support a socialist?
2) You didn't know me before this comment exchange, so I don't understand how you "always knew I was one".

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dennis wont and cant run.
he sold out and was on his knees in AF 1 when he did so.
protect him all you want.
hillary would be ur gal for 2016 and I have had plenty of run ins with you around here.
ur moniker irks me.

the polls you posted are hilarious and mean very very little to anyone.
have you even read comments on your own thread?lol
these polls you spam, are fill in fodder and are meant to distract and confuse lib sheep with ("what if's)

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

"dennis wont and cant run. he

"dennis wont and cant run.
he sold out and was on his knees in AF 1 when he did so.
protect him all you want."
When exactly did I protect him?

"hillary would be ur gal for 2016"
Can you explain why I should support Hillary? I agree largely with the Republican Party platform.

"and I have had plenty of run ins with you around here."
Link to one.

"the polls you posted are hilarious and mean very very little to anyone.
have you even read comments on your own thread?lol"
I've read pretty much all the comments on my two threads. This one is not mine, it is "A Real Conservative"'s. Personally, I do not believe a Rand vs. Kucinich match-up will ever happen.

"these polls you spam, are fill in fodder and are meant to distract and confuse lib sheep with ("what if's)"
My two polls were "would you support Rand in 2016 at this point" and "Rand vs. Ventura in 2016". Both Rand and Ventura have expressed interest in running for the presidency in 2016, so I'm not sure what you mean by "what if".

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Uhhh...

1777, usually you're pretty logical, minus the rhetorical abuse, but I think you're missing the point here.

The user Compromise isn't agreeing with those views, merely stating them as the majority of the voters in this poll and most likely as the more vocal critics on this site. They would prefer a socialist because they view him as "anti-establishment." Whether that view is correct or not is immaterial, because the people in question are most likely short sighted and completely forgot the fact that Kucinich's economic knowledge could fit in a thimble. He may have good intentions and be able to work with Ron on the issues where they agree, but in the areas they disagree they fervently disagree.

The people voting his way are the ones who remember the Dennis and Ron are "friends" and that Rand is the son who betrayed his father and stabbed him in the back, aka "the idiots."

Eric Hoffer

You hit the nail on the head.

You hit the nail on the head. Thanks for clearing things up. :)

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This says to me

That the Republicans were correct when they said many Ron Paul supporters would have never voted for the Republican so they should discount us. National defense is but one issue among many that should concern libertarians. Kucinich opposes war for all the wrong reasons. He wants more cash for other wealth transfers.

finally

the TRUTH! libs here hate the truth

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Dennis Kucinich on Ron Paul 2007

as his potential running mate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8cXlLyX18

Neither

Not a vote for turn coat Rand nor demon crate Dennis. I stay sovereign.

sovereign

I intended to

take the poll, but after reading the purpose of it I decided not to.
Your obvious fixation with Rand is why i will not. This is not the daily Rand...
I like them both, but take you message elsewhere!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

I WANT JESSE VENTURA.

1) Get him on the ballot.
2) Get him in the debates.

I would LOVE to get into this movement.

Shift the domain name to DailyVentura.com.

PASS THE TORCH!
CONTINUE THE MOVEMENT!

The only problem is that

The only problem is that Jesse doesn't get it. We might be able to guarantee him ballot access in (almost) every state, but there's no way anyone can guarantee him that he will be in the debates. That's the problem. Don't get me wrong. I'm all for trying it. I'm just saying, he says it so flippantly like "Go ahead and do this for me and I'll run."

I think if we show him the

I think if we show him the overwhelming support he may step up and get himself in the debates. Come on...it Ventura! What network would not let him in the debates? Ratings!

The Commission on

The Commission on Presidential Debates would not allow him in. The networks don't get to decide.

Well...there's always

Well...there's always something isn't there?!

Nuts

Seriously folks? More votes for Kucinich that Rand Paul?

I guess that calls the issue. That's beyond help in my opinion.

Eric Hoffer

it's called trust

& integrity. postions you disagree with can be fought on a state level.
all along he's been a strong ron paul supporter and collaborator. i've never seen him lie (very rare for a politician). or back down from his excellent foreign policy, anti-goldman sachs position. when he speaks there's no doubt the man is honest and sincere, and passionate. i wish i could say all that about rand, but IMO he's not even close.

Sooo...

You'd vote for a guy who might line up with Ron Paul 50% of a time, rather than his son with whom he lines up 97% of the time?

So, when Dennis completely screwed us on the Audit the Fed bill, he was showing integrity?

Eric Hoffer

Kucinich vote

July 25, 2012 HR 459 Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2012 Bill Passed - House
(327 - 98) Yea

2010

Sure when everyone else did, and it got popular again.

How quickly we forget when in 2010 Kucinich removed his support at the last minute even though he'd co-sponsored the bill in favor of the watered down version that didn't open up the full books.

http://www.dailypaul.com/139090/kucinich-votes-against-hr-12...

Eric Hoffer

ever see anything remotely like this