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24 irrefutable facts about 9/11

THE HARD FACTS ABOUT 9/11 - Published on Dec 11, 2012

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sharkhearted's picture

Anybody that can survive THIS video...

...and can STILL can pretend to emerge from it unscathed....needs to check themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smreRx51cus

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

sharkhearted's picture

The elevator mechanical rooms of WTC7 collapsing first...

...are a HALLMARK of CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

The CORE "collapsing" ("demolished") first....pulling the perimeter walls inward...exactly and precisely how one destroys a building with controlled explosives.

And yes the structure of the building DID indeed come down in 6.5 seconds.

What caused the top 108 vertical feet of the entire footprint of this steel and reinforced concrete building to suddenly fall at the SPEED OF GRAVITY?

The only answer is that there was, for 108 feet below, NO (none) resistance whatsoever.

WTC7 is the smoking gun for controlled demolition and there is nothing anybody can do about that dirty little secret to cover it up.

Cat. Out of the bag.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

fireant's picture

"Controlled explosives" would have been unmistakable

very LOUD.
EVERYONE would have heard them. At the time of collapse!
Thermate cutters would have been seen by everyone.
VERY BRIGHT.

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sharkhearted's picture

NO. Thermite cutter charges are NOT as loud as conventional

...explosives...because they do their damage mostly through extreme heat of 4300 degrees F that melts steel like a stick of butter in the microwave...and not primarily with the force of the blast as with RDX.

And no, Mr. Disiformation Agent (and not a very good one at that)...NO ONE would have seen the 'initial' blasts given that the explosives would have been placed around core columns in the center of the buildings.

While WTC7 was "imploded" in a more traditional manner, the twin towers were "exploded" with the "collapse" (demolition) initiating just below the point of jet impact with charges detonating floor by floor in a downward direction and timed to "hide" under the demolition wave.

WATCH...carefully:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smreRx51cus

If you can not plainly see this in this close-up video graphic evidence of the same, then there is no hope for you....and you are either a) mentally challenged or b) a paid disinformation "agent" (although not a very good one).

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

fireant's picture

You are the one who used "controlled explosives", not me.

Thermate is not "explosive", and you still refer to explosives in the core. Be clear. If there were any explosives involved, they would have been heard by everyone in the vicinity.
So what are you saying? Was it just thermate?
Well, no one saw any (they would have been very bright flashes seen through the burnt out floors.) Don't you think someone would have reported seeing very bright flashes in the building just before collapse? A lot of people were standing around waiting for it to go, after all.
Anyway, since you claim the core was eliminated first with "controlled explosives", you acknowledge the claim you make of "the whole building" falling at free fall is incorrect, because the core had already been removed.

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sharkhearted's picture

EVERYONE PLEASE IGNORE THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED

They can't help themselves.

And even if they are sane and paid disinformation agents....then ignore them more.

THE TRUTH...WHATEVER IF MAY BE....IS IRREVERSIBLE AND JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

Res ipsa loquitur.
~

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

fireant's picture

What he wants you to do is ignore fact,

that's why he resorts to ignorant accusations of "troll".
Here's a question for readers. If truth is on ones side, shouldn't scrutiny be welcome? All I do is present facts which have been overlooked.
Why the fear of honest scrutiny????

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fireant's picture

Then you believe laws of physics were suspended that day.

How can a building fall at "the speed of gravity" and move sideways at the same time? Just answer that one question.
For those who care to look for themselves, mark the left edge of the building on your screen, or just watch it in relation to the roof of the building in front of it. Watch the left corner of 7. The building is moving sideways.
How in hades can a building move sideways and free fall at the same time???
IMPOSSIBLE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A

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angular deflection would prohibit freefall speeds.

but only by microseconds.
and that is assuming that you could even tell where the straight line was.
what is your point?

fireant's picture

How can you say "but only by microseconds"

as some sort of "law"?
It totally depends on mass, resistance, and momentum.
Regardless, a building can't move sideways and fall at freefall at the same time.
The point, as I have repeated over and over, is if the building shifted, or in my opinion it rotated, lower support was not severed, rather, lower support folded, or buckled.

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it depends on gravity dweeb.

and the difference between "severed. buckling and folding"
would be what?

fireant's picture

Sir, if you don't know the difference between severing and

buckling, what business do have even commenting?
It means the initial move of the perimeter wall collapse was not due to columns being severed. They were still a unit, though a deformed unit at initiation.

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no, that is not what it means..

YOUR point that YOU were driving home was how angular deflection would prohibit "free-fall" speeds. I agreed with you.
what is your profession? you know what mine is.
talking with you is like wrestling with a pig in the mud, or arguing with a truck driver....

fireant's picture

No, you haven't read. I am not the one who continuously brings

up "free fall". I am not even concerned with the speed; I refer only to initiation. I don't care about free fall.
The initial move of the outer walls was lateral and down. That is my only point, and it means precisely that lower vertical support was not severed. If they were severed to initiate collapse, the initial move would have been straight down, not a lateral move. I can't make it any simpler than that.

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sharkhearted's picture

Can U not READ? I said for the first 108 ' of the collapse ONLY

When pressed, even the head scientists at N.I.S.T. finally had to publically ADMIT that the first 108 vertical feet of the collapse were at free-fall acceleration.

Sure, there was resistance after that, and some horizontal deformation at the END of the "collapse", not uncommon with even controlled demolition as explosives can malfunction, but this you talk about did not occur in the top 108 vertical feet of the buildings 'collapse'.

In this case I never EVER said anymore that even N.I.S.T had to admit to...so don't be twisting my words, fireant.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

fireant's picture

Answer my question.

How can a building move sideways and free fall at the same time?

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sharkhearted's picture

I answered your f-u-c-k-i-n-g question you nimrod.

There was no lateral deformation until WELL AFTER the first 108 feet of vertical descent you stupid dumb-ass.

Or are you too retarded to comprehend this?

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

fireant's picture

That's just dead wrong. The building shifted visually to the

east as a first move as it began falling. You can't pretend it didn't.

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dear Chris.

if you let stupid people piss you off. you will spend your life that way.
I learned this because I drive as much as I do.
it is also not wise to argue with trolls.
peace.

Jefferson's picture

We've

certainly been around this block eh HVAC?

There comes a point to where it just becomes a time suck issue. I only have so much energy and time to expend, and have learned to avoid some of this stuff (for the most part)
Reminds me of the rhino days.

Even RP has said that "wtc7 is the most suspicious." I've had dinner with one of his brothers, and he says the same thing. Unfortunately the conversation came up at the end of dinner, and his wife scooped him up and said "don't get him talking about it, we'll be here all night."

I'd almost bet my last FRN that RP and his brother have had discussions about wtc7 in private.

Even if bldg 7 had 25% "scooped out of the corner" it would have fallen OVER, JUST LIKE a tree that has had a wedge cut out of it.
This is probably one of the best short vids to explain this simple concept.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=owyqt-8RnKI&feature=ends...

sentinal taught me some things.

yes, there is a time to just quit.
thanks for helping out zak back in the day.
that really meant a lot to me....

Jefferson's picture

It

meant a lot to me as well. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. We had some good times at the range. I think it was nice for him to do some shooting and have no one shooting back. BANG!! BANG!!

I wish I could have convinced him to accept a bus ticket, but was happy to be able drive him to the state line. Much respect.

sharkhearted's picture

Good advice.

But I still like to challenge them....for the record.

I agree though...on your premise.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

sharkhearted's picture

Molten IRON pouring from the NE perimeter column...

....seconds from its collapse.

Molten aluminum is NOT incandescent.

Molten iron, which is a byproduct of a thematic reaction, is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmuzyWC60eE

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

sharkhearted's picture

You tell me?? Maybe uh I dunno, it was cooling as it fell??

The molten iron in draining out of the building in that video is clear and incontrovertible evidence of of thermite or thermate doing its dirty work on the NE corner perimeter steel columns...and indeed, seconds later, the building in exactly that location suddenly "broke."

Steel does not suddenly "break" like that...unless it has been melted away.

Your disinformation is NOT working, fireant. The truth is out there, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

fireant's picture

Well, steel doesn't turn grey, nor does it cool that fast.

Why is that the only location, in both towers, that we see a molten material pouring out. The North Tower fell to the south, but we didn't see any molten material there.
Considering the possibility of a UPS in that part of the building, the fact that is where most of the airplane ended up, and everything in it's path was pushed into that corner, I find it intellectually incredulous to automatically assume it to be a sign of thermate.

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sharkhearted's picture

"pushed into that corner"

You are an IDIOT.

This is fun.

Nothing is as entertaining and engaging and REWARDING as taking on a complete fucking idiot who is trying to cover up the truth.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

fireant's picture

Molten metal flow.

Typically, conspiracy videos do not show the lower potion of the molten metal flowing from the South Tower.
It is a fact molten aluminum, when heated to temperatures well above it's melting point, will show orange yellow color. It will quickly cool when poured, turning to silver grey. Steel, on the other hand, will not cool as quickly as aluminum, and will turn black when cooled.
A careful study of raw video shows the flowing metal turning to a silver grey color after falling a few floors. Start at 15:57 here: http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/02/ups-on-81st-floor-o..., and a clear photo in the next link.
Additionally, an interesting study was conducted by Enrico Manieri, and published in http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/02/ups-on-81st-floor-o..., regarding the Universal Power Source installed on the 81st floor.
To claim the flow is molten steel and fail to present this vital information is sloppy at best, and patently misleading.

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fireant's picture

#4 is patently false.

There is no evidence any "stand down" order was given. It is not necessary to issue stand down orders. Norad is not authorizzed to shoot down civilian air craft without explicit orders to the contrary from POTUS. The fact is NORAD claims it did not receive such orders until after all the planes were down.

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