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Rand Admits Why He Endorsed Romney!

Also why he introduced bill to abolish the TSA!

http://youtu.be/ygwZHpTUmaI




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what did all

his Fathers single "No" votes change?

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

SteveMT's picture

That 'No' vote would have changed US.

That 'No" vote would have sent the right message to every Liberty supporter, IMO.

So Rand would have to vote no

So Rand would have to vote no on his own Amendments? I remember Ron doing something similar, but as we know Ron is purism. Rand is trying to get things done but you know, that's not good enough.

ecorob's picture

Because he (rand) was a FOOL!

the ABSOLUTE worse case EVER for a presidential candidate and this senator "wannabe" gets his ass in line...(just like he was told to)...with his DAD still hanging out there!

yessir, mister, where do you want me, sir? yessir, yessir, the crumbs later in the day, oh, yessir, that will be fine, sir

thats not why you are there, BOY!

grow some cajones or go back to the farm where your daddy can finish teaching your wet behind the ears butt some backbone

why, indeed?

and now you are gonna explain?

save it for the idiots...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

He was clear in letting us

He was clear in letting us know that he had to promise to endorse the R candidate to get the R nod before he was even elected..so..I understand. He also knew, as did his Dad, that we would never necessarily vote for whoever EITHER of them endorsed.

ecorob's picture

yeah...

let me know how that works out for you...

he had to promise just, who? the leadership of the gop is in SHAMBLES

if randy would have stood his ground HE would be the defacto LEADER RIGHT NOW but, noooooo....

so, he waits for a nod from someone who now struggles to hold on to his own future (boner)

what a tragic miscalculation from a freshman senator wannabe who wouldn't listen to his dad?
sad, very sad...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

lacking in principles

and politically unsaavy.

I know

lot of you are unhappy about Rand supporting Romney. But it makes the most amount of sense in my opinion to get the maximum amount accomplished in Washington. I know you guys all get pissed that he's actually playing politicis - that's how politics works! He's in washington! There are a few straight shooters out there like Ron (very very few and far between). But in the liberty movement you need both people like Ron and others like Rand that know the political language and can play ball a little. At least until we get the numbers of liberty candidates in washington - which we don't have now.

Who else is fighting for legalizing hemp? Who's fighting for us on NDAA? Who's fighting for us on foreign aid? Who's fighting for us on foreign wars? Who's fighting for us on forcing the president to go to congress before declaring wars? Who's fighting for us on the drug war?

There are a lot here who want everything all at once....it's not going to work like that - especially with the ratio of liberty candidates to neocon nuts in washington right now. Rand could have made an absolute stand and not backed up Romney - which would have left him with zero bargaining power....and getting nothing accomplished thta we want.

ecorob's picture

"...that's how politics works!"

yeah, and just how is that working out for us, slave?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Slave

????

This is interesting,

were we all set up by Rand and Ron for a Rand run for President in 2016.

Ron knew the elites would not allow him to become President, but can they stop Rand when every thing is in shambles in 2016.

Gold standard: because man can not be trusted to control his greed

ecorob's picture

I won't go to the mailbox for rand paul...

meet the new boss...same as the old boss

WARSWARSWARS
SUPPORTISRAELSUPPORTISRAELSUPPORTISRAEL
KILLPALESTINIANSKILLPALESTINIANSKILLBROWNPEOPLE
KILLKILLKILLKILLKILL

this is how rand votes!

no, thankyou...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

any rand supporter can gladly

any rand supporter can gladly take my pcp spot so i can stop wasting my time in this failed party!

Ron Paul 2016

Rand Paul spot on..

airing from the side of REALITY vs a bunch of spoiled kids whining about what amounts to nothing significant!
whah whah...if you don't play the game exactly like i want you to play it, i'm taking my ball and going home..whah whah...I want my cake and eat it to..whah.
Rand clearly see's what it takes to get things done while you whiny baby's clearly see what it takes to keep losing elections and getting nowhere....
You want to know what Ron Paul will be telling you in 2015? He will be telling you
RAND PAUL 2016!..:) lol

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

are you so sure....

'You want to know what Ron Paul will be telling you in 2015? He will be telling you
RAND PAUL 2016!..:) lol"

Ron won't be running in 2016? you're not an ageist i hope.

Rand

has made it all but crystal clear he will run for POTUS in 2016. His actions recently also paint that picture. I don't expect his father to run against him do you?
If Ron decides to run again, i will be there in support of him like i always have...I will support either one of them as they are leaps and bounds better than any potential alternative i have seen so far..
Either one is good enough for me as both of them could move us forward from where we are now....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

night and day

ron running again (he might even be drafted by the people) would be an awesome monumental event.

rand running, pretty much a non event.

the only thing exciting in the debates was the little time ron was given. the rest of the pack were neocon bores. johnson was good the couple of times he was allowed in.

but the rest only showed what a big dead party the GOP is.

Not to worry

If Ron doesn't run he will give Rand a gigantic boost. I actually voted for GJ. Didn't know a whole lot about him except what i read here as i knew he wouldn't win so i never looked in to the guy very much. It was more or less a protest vote because i'm tired of our choices being dictated to us and i wanted to see Mittens lose his ass after what he did to our people and Ron. It would have been good to see Gary in the debates . You are correct in that it was boring. No substance at all after Ron was out...

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

see spot run

condescension and name calling aside, it sounded like rand was the one whining with that put-you-to-sleep
rambling of his.

Translated...

...this means:

I am a Republicrat to the core, albeit a bit disgruntled right now. The Republicrat leadership faction currently in power does not "play the game exactly like i want to play it, i'm taking my ball and going home..whah whah...I want my cake and eat it to..whah".

Translation continues:

Lil' Rand clearly sees what it takes to get things done, such as prove he doesn't hold to actual liberty or any unwavering principles and demonstrate that he is ready, willing and able to 'compromise', lie, obfuscate, hoodwink, play both sides.

Winning at any cost is clearly seen as acceptable. You know, the ends justify the means and all that non-principled cover-mantra.

After all, Rand sees that a goodly portion of the 'tea party' and of the 'liberty movement' are actually not unwavering principled liberty-advocates, nor are they strict constitutionalists, rather, they are fine with chicanery, lies, falsity, bad-acts and the use of force of government, as long as it tracks with their particular desires and beliefs, aka faux-liberty advocacy and faux-constitutionalism; they will rabidly and blindly defend anything I do, for I am a Paul, Lil' Rand Paul and I have found a quasi-cult in this rabble.

Translation complete.

what could

rand have gotten done if he had not endorsed Romney? Nothing.

"Rand clearly see's what it takes to get things done"

I knew you were Santorum!!

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lol , rp4pres

i'm not Santorum. I'm the guy that is tired of getting beat by the Santorums out there and getting nowhere with the goals both me and YOU share.
I understand how you guys feel. The only difference between me and you is i understand what Rand is doing and why Rand is doing it..so does his FATHER....you know... Ron Paul? Its just that some of us are interested in moving forward and winning elections to at least advance some of our goals and bring them to MS acceptance and some are interested in disruption and losing more elections with the 'feel good' stuff while their house is burning to the ground.
Rand is the guy that is trying to put the fire out and save your house while your in there trying to save the french-fries...know what i mean?
I read a LOT here and i can assure you outside of what i just said we are pretty much on the same page...Racers race and Whiners whine...
Rand is trying to take us to the front while you guys want to disregard the strides we have made and move us back to the drawing board. That isn't very productive....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

"I'm the guy that is tired of getting beat by the Santorums out

there and getting nowhere with the goals both me and YOU share."

But we didn't get beat by Santorum nor Romney and got where we did because it at least seemed we were on the same page.. Winning but winning by standing your ground. People flock to ideas like Liberty because of the principles and what they promise. Stepping away from that to get a win will not be respected or taken seriously.

"The only difference between me and you is i understand what Rand is doing and why Rand is doing it..so does his FATHER....you know... Ron Paul?"

How exactly do you know what Rand is doing? You do not.. You are hoping based on speculation. Hell I even remember Dr.Paul making a comment about Rand to the tune of "I hope he sticks to principles" or something to that effect.. That to me didn't say "I have no doubt what Rand will do!".. Nobody could know what's in his mind but himself and the only guide we do have to go by is to watch his actions..

He's already proven by his push for harder sanctions which fly in the face of his FATHER'S message, that he has gone off the reservation.

"Its just that some of us are interested in moving forward and winning elections to at least advance some of our goals and bring them to MS acceptance and some are interested in disruption and losing more elections with the 'feel good' stuff while their house is burning to the ground."

As I pointed out.. we made plenty of progress without having to compromise on principles. People like yourself are desperate for anything.. I and people like me are not. We know why we're here to begin with and what has brought us to this point.. It was NOT compromise, it was NOT loosening principles and turning our head on issues so you can put away that tired rhetoric.

We ARE NOT on the same page.

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Look

i respect your position as i DO see your points AND feel your pains. We aren't that different! A few months ago we were all together here, remember? I even agree with much of what you say here except regarding Rand. We made progress because RP was a great representative and still is but our block of voters is not enough to win and i dont believe he will run again. There is nobody else out there that can replace RP and you and i both know this. Nobody would even come close!
What better person to continue our advance than Rand? Ron and Rand together can make this happen or put us damn close to a victory. We will never get the majority of voters to agree on everything we believe in, its simply not possible and advancing some of our goals is better than not getting anything. I think Rand is at heart still the same Rand he was a couple of years ago. He only started this stuff recently as he knows if we cant gain acceptance within the GOP and MS republican sheep we will only get so far and we wont accomplish anything. If Rand tries to be exactly like his father he wont appeal to the average republican voter and whether we like it or not, we need them to win! Rand is counting on us to be wise and see what is going on here. You have to give a little to get a little, i wouldn't call that desperate...its just the way life is. If we want our goals to eventually be excepted by the MS we have to win elections and like it or not that comes through compromise...we get a little now and then a little more later and eventually we will win them over and accomplish most of our goals. We will never get anything dropping it ALL on their heads at once...it just wont happen that way. Anyways, whether you realize it yet or not, WE ARE on the same side....and btw, my compromise only goes so far, I didnt vote for MR and i wont vote for another RINO Neotard...Rand on the other hand is an exception....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

So many of those words just disgust me.

We are not the same.Plenty of people better than Rand.. We just need to be a little more patient till they decide to step forward.

When those people realize that the Liberty movement lacks a viable person to carry on Dr.Paul's message intact, they'll move in to fill it, just like many of us have done. Just like grassroots has done for years.

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Nope

they will move us back where we started 8 years ago and they most likely wont be able to grab half the support RP did...If it happens that way, you will see....it will be back to start, do not collect $200... that's not moving forward, that is moving backwards....btw, we are at 17 Trillion in debt and counting...my 17 year old boy don't have time to wait another 30 years and neither do you ! ...

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

No they won't.. You're just fearmongering

As a matter of fact, it all is.. that and justifications.

Don't presume to speak for me.. I may not wait 30 years but I won't have to. I will support Dr.Paul, Nap or Woods.. There are a few others too I have some confidence in but Rand?

The more I see of him the more I dislike. Fiscally conservative just isn't enough and hell, really he isn't even that.. sure he calls for cuts in defense but he votes for sanctions and money for them to spend. Either of those will provide for more wars and the toll on human life will be immense.

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I like the judge

and i like Tom Woods but the reality is neither one of them could garner enough support to even put a blip on the vote totals.
Ron Paul could of course as could Rand Paul. If this movement don't start producing results, the people will lose interest and it will die off..what will you have then ?

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Do you have the numbers to back up Nap and Woods lack

of support or should I just take your word for it and rush to Rands side because our time is almost up and we'll wind up with nothing?

Fat chance fella. lol

What will we have? Well it's principled message carried by a principled person or it's an actual revolution. No less will be "acceptable" to me.

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