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Why I'm still excited & what we can do.

I'm still excited about libertarian thought.

I discovered Ron Paul in 2011 while trying to understand how banks work after learning that banks create credit and then charge interest on that credit. I am not sure what speech it was but I could not believe a politician saying things critical of government and appearing to speak for the average man (and woman).

Since then my life has been preoccupied (obsessed my girlfriend would say) with libertarian thought. I am sure that this has made me a better and happier person but these are side effects of discovering liberty.

One thing led to another and the Daily Paul became my chief filter through which to view the world (along with a couple of major newspapers that I read very cynically). I appreciate the honesty of the posters and the sometime very politically incorrect material that is not filtered for its content. Sometimes it can stray to areas that I don't agree with but I honestly think it tempers some peoples emotions to be able to discuss topics with absolute freedom. What I am trying to say is that I enjoy reading them.

Lately things have quietened down politically on the DP and in general life but don't find my enthusiasm sapped. I am still very excited to discuss where we can move these ideas and how popular they can be.

Thinking about this has made me realise that we must not let up our pressure and the airing of our views to a wider audience no matter what reaction this generates. I know from personal experience as I have been shot down for disagreeing with spending money on social programs that I believe to be a waste of money (olympic funding is one that wound me up why do we have to fund sportspeople doing a past-time for their own personal gain) that this can be hard but it is necessary. People's minds have been swayed I know this as they grudgingly say I was right.

Well the following are a few minor areas that I think we can improve on. Maybe you have some ideas for me - I know I have learned a lot about life off posters on the DP so please share if you have ideas.

Anyway key areas that I believe we can focus on are;

1. Discussion;

Make sure you engage people about current event and government policy but you have to do it in the right way.

No-one likes to be lectured. Make sure you hear them out and then some. Take a deep breath and quietly explain your point of view. Be humble about your opinions and respect theirs. This has won many people over before.

2. Become Involved;

There is no point sitting back and expecting political parties to change to suit your viewpoints. It is time for us to get involved in the running of political parties and take them over. There will be initial resistance but we can shame our enemies and beat them with sheer weight of numbers.

3. Take the high moral ground;

We should always try to be fair and honest even against our enemies. No-one likes someone who does not play fair. If our opponents make a good decision lets praise them for it, if not humble disagreement will win people over to our side. We cannot however compromise our principles.

4. Make changes step by step;

Some will say that this is a contradiction of the previous point but I think it is a sensible position. Most libertarian thought is foreign to a large mass of people who look to the government to solve their problems. We should slowly move towards a liberty minded government over time inch by inch never losing sight of the end goal of liberty for all people.

5. Give;

This is an overlooked part of liberty that I think is very important. We should all try to give something to charity or political organisations. If we have a libertarian government then charity will become even more important as those who have fallen on hard times will not be supported without our help.

The great thing is that giving is fun, it makes you feel good and it spreads goodwill throughout the community. The great thing about libertarian thought is that giving is voluntary therefore it is meaningful and honest. It is not forced on people to support dubious schemes. Giving will be good for our cause and good for others.

I am very excited about where this movement can head.

Thing are quiet now so what better time to push ahead with our ideas?

Get excited and if we keep together slowly with honesty and resolve we can turn the tide and make people see that they should have the power to control their own lives, not government.

Please share any ideas to further this movement below.

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A book called "The creature from jekyll island". Every aspect of the scam called "Central Banking" and Fractional Reserve Banking, are fully explained in a way that is very clear. Also "End The Fed", is a good introduction to the topic. In my view (and id argue in Ron Paul's view) this is the issue that is the keystone to big government. break that stone and liberty has a much better chance. ignore central banking / monetary policy and all efforts to shrink the size of government will fail.

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Don't neglect the girlfriend!

One of the problems with the libertarian movement is too few baby libertarians.

On the other hand, only some libertarians are born; the rest are made by abusive government.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

...Ladies! Don't Neglect the Guys, Either! Babies 4 LIberty

We have three, and are Homeschooling, teaching and upholding personal property rights, (no forced sharing at our house!) teaching freedom of speech and assembly rights (by hearing all opinions and not moving on major issues unless there is unity...yes it does work, and sometimes the minority report wins!). This year our sixth grader will be reading, discussing and memorizing Patrick Henry's speech to the Constitutional Convention! (We are Libertarian, she was given a choice, and will be also doing Lincoln's Gettysburg Address as well)

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Lol, awesome (and true) post

Lol, awesome (and true) post

*Wisconsin Constitution* Article I, Section 25 "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security,defense,hunting,recreation or any other law-abiding purpose"

Right on point, especially when speaking about charity.

One of the hardest steps for some to take on their path to libertarian/rational thought is that the misconception that in a libertarian society you let the poor starve and the sick die. In my view, a libertarian society must have a obsessiveness with voluntary charity, starting with your family.

I think if more libertarians engaged in more charitable acts, wearing the badge of liberty, others would come to see our movement in a more positive light.

It's easy for someto view libertarians as people who are "against everything." When they hear "end the fed, end the department of education, end the regulations, end the income taxe and our here is "Dr. No," the positive message of freedom is lost in the perceived negativity.

By saying we're not going to wait for the government to help or to encourage anything, we the people can take care of each other, the positive values of a libertarian society begin to shine through.

We as libertarians need to be known for our charity just as much as our will to end the TSA or an endless drone campaign. Realize that we can't wait for the STHTF to be a caring and charitable people, we must build our future now.

I'm sure many of us here give all we can, but we can always do more, and we do not talk about it enough.


I agree completely. It is usually hard to explain this to, lets say, the herd.. But as people begin to realize you don't always have to turn to the government, they typically understand.

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.


I agree Charity needs to become associated with libertarianism.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

lindalsalisbury's picture

Thinking ahead is good

I see your plan akin to the success the Humas had in taking over Gaza.

It will be far more relevant when the SHTF, as it is far more difficult to influence and "buy" people with charity, when they are already bought and paid for.

It is very important, however, to build relationships with people you are hoping to influence.

Nice to see a plan of action. Keep up the good work!

Good post eh

Freedomfighter over here in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada trying to spread the word, good luck in Austrialia.

I find a good way to start is talk about who controls the money supply, might work for you.

Actually who does control the money supply?

The Reserve Bank or people pulling the strings? That is a good question.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

Cyril's picture

Nobody really knows.

Nobody really knows.

But the answer is likely to be found on the Federal Reserve Board of Directors. The name of a certain bearded uncle Ben regularly comes to mind.

More importantly, though, because fashions and men are always a changing, after all - one has to watch the overall, all encompassing superstitious cult that managed to bring Mr. Krugman his Nobel FRAUD Prize - check out the articles on Bunker Bear and the Cobb Douglas function eeriness, there :


It is a lot of fun stuff and science fiction.

Enjoy. :)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius