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Another Shooting - What's going wrong! 26 Dead, Including 18 Children at Connecticut Elementary School

Shooting in elementary school in Newton, Connecticut. 27 Dead, Including 14 Children.



And the comments about gun laws keep increasing!

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100% predictable...

and it will happen again. The policy of gun free zones creates this senerio every year. The saying no one saw this coming, is wrong. I did and it will happen again. Senseless crime. Children dying because a non-functioning ideology and pathetic politics. Are the democrats out there asking you to give up your guns yet? Cycle repeats.

This school has a "check-point".

One has to be buzzed in to enter the building...this guy was well known and trusted. Perhaps the buzz-in point should have a metal detector...but it is a difficult thing to suspect someone who once attended the school, worked at the scool, and whose mom is working at the school of carrying in guns to commit mass murder.

I find it telling that these people often kill themselves...

Remote control people: http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/dark-matters-twisted-b...

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul


I was thinking either NO glass or at least bullet proof glass in any openings around a check point... a terrible, unspeakable tragedy..

Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

in USA they are "innocent

in USA they are "innocent children", in Middle East they are "legitimate targets". Strange how people cry over those kids but don't give a f*** about the millions dead or amputated kids in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or Syria.

Wasn't TSA

wanting to start having checkpoints and random searches at theaters, malls, highways etc? Are schools on that list too?


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If not,

they are now...

"They're coming for our guns!

"They're coming for our guns! Obama is coming for our guns"

You people need to shut the hell up. Just shut it.

For the past 20 years, after every incidence of gun violence, I've heard you lunatices saying "they're coming for our guns! BUY MORE GUNS HEAD FOR THE HILLS O MY GOD"!

I am getting sick of it. It never happens. Seriously. Obama has been a friend to the gun industry, not a foe. Gun regulations are shrinking (and that is a good thing, IMO!), not expanding.

Politicians have had PLENTY of capital to spend on increasing gun control. One of their own was the victim of gun violence, yet they do nothing. Your guns are safe. Too many Americans love their guns; which politicians could pass this on to their constituents? Moreover, the NRA has an iron-grip ont he GOP and much of the Dems. The gun industry own's Congress, and they are making killing out of dumb shits like y'all.

Alex Jones says that the feds are going to take away our guns and put us in concentration camps practically every couple of weeks...and of course he never explains why it doesn't happen by his deadline....he is like a Jehovah's Witness....

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Perhaps you haven't noticed

the significant increase in anti-gun response and attacks on NRA as of late? Perhaps you missed Obama's desire of gun control even if he had to use an EO...and by-pass congress. Perhaps you missed Hillary's support of the UN gun control agenda.
Not to worry - the gun industry will make it's money by supplying the government with arms to fight endless wars and police the homeland...
FYI - The NRA has very little "power" in Washington since they have been infiltrated to the point they are almost benign.

Will it be overnight? NO - it's more like the frog in the pot syndrome.
Perhaps, like the frog, you haven't been paying attention.

What gun rights have you lost

What gun rights have you lost since Obama became president?

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Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Just threats...

lots of rhetoric....and snide comments about guns and gun owners.
I don't like threats and I'm tired of BS.
Feels like the water is getting warmer to me...
Did I say Obama had "taken" any rights yet (well, other than my right not to be assassinated by him personally or held without trial or choice of medical care)?
I indicated that I don't "trust" him...and yes, I suspect he will attempt a (future)gun control move in his next 4 years in office.
If you trust Obama, then just lay back and relax....the water is fine. LOL

You are exactly correct!

Last night Rachel Maddow said 74% of NRA members support gun purchase controls - that we need to start around the fringe, a little at a time, etc.

I can see it coming.

God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. – Daniel Webster

Death of preferred innocents?

Somehow if this "madman" was sitting at the controls of a Predator drone wearing a guvmint issued monkey suit "terminating" men,women,and children in a drier climate far, far away this would be a non-story and a promotion would be forthcoming for a job well done.

Katrina = guvmint failure
Sandy = guvmint failure
economic decline = guvmint failure (ongoing for a ling time)
all the school shootings = guvmint failure ( for placing them like fish in a barrel!)

beginning to see a pattern here! your not alone. This incident will be shown albeit sometime later, to be a drug related fast & furious style mass homicide, the real question is what are real Americans i.e. patriots going to do in response to this veiled attack on one of our core freedoms? These people in CT were victims alright, victims of guvmint!

School Defense

I do not know how true this because I have never been to the country. Yet I found this today on Stan Deyo's site.



Whats the deal

Was this a sick bastard or are they coming for your guns yanks? a little clarity would be nice this was an uspsetting notice in canada

This tragedy was on the tv

This tragedy was on the tv all day long, saw two minutes of it at a friend's house, so can't say if it was a 5 min. loop like what they pulled on us the day of WVTech - that was a loop de loop.
I recall watching tv when the news "broke" of first shots being fired that day, noticed very strange behavior by police, seemed artificial, so I grabbed a pen and pad and wrote down over 30 anomalies of what I saw. Notable were: two "student interviewees" were in every live interview no matter the time of day; two female students from their dorm windows directly above the floor where so many were screaming and being killed heard nothing and learned of the so-called massacre only after turning on the TV because a news commentator outside yelled up to them to do so; another student said the entire thing was a "farce"; and every interview with parents of murdered children showed parents smiling almost uncontrollably throughout each and every interview -- every interview. I don't believe smiling like that to be a reflexive WV trait.

Now I don't know if this was a Govt False Flag operation, but only a fool would discount the possibility. What happened in a Colorado movie theatre. Early on there were four different faces supposedly of the same person. How did it happen that movie patrons ran from the gunfire up to the balcony to be met with swat team police with rifles? If I recall correctly, wasn't the alleged killer's father a whistleblower scheduled to meet with the Grand Jury pertaining to the BigPharma Ind.

I'm not making light of what happened -- but why are we jumping to conclusions? Who saw murdered children, anyone? How do we know the 20 yr old Lanza kid did it? because Govt told you so?
Where have all the investigative reporters gone?

It may all have happened the way we're being told -- personally, I smell a rat.
I would like to add one other comment -- Drugs prescribed by BigPharma patsy doctors who know less than lay people about the medications should be thoroughly investigated and held accountable when some kid on Prozac or Ritlin type zombie drugs play havoc with his head. What normal kid would shoot others? Our society is getting sicker by the day and Govt leads the parade.

God bless America, God bless Kucinich for what he said about NDAA, God bless Ron Paul I love him so, God bless my shotgun hope I don't miss.

Bodies! what bodies?

I believe the bodies were buried at sea in accordance with Muslim custom!

This is CLEAR evidence that...

-Govt fails to keep us safe
-Govt schools are not safe
-We need more guns
-And lastly, can't go wrong with Home Schooling : )

This was planned They are coming for the guns

Yep I am watching the CBS "special report". It is carefully crafted to demonize guns even zooming in on police AR15s at strategic points in the dialogue and also the hand guns used in the shooting. Obama's speech and pretending to be wiping tears when there are no tears etc.

Watch for a major push for more gun control legislation now!

This whole thing was so staged it makes me sick the real perps are the bastards who orchestrated these shootings and sacrificed the lives of those children and adults to accomplish their agenda. Can you imagine the planning meetings for this garbage? Yeah the last several shootings didin't work so lets kill a bunch of little children that will have the country calling for gun controi... Who do we have on the MK ultra hook that will take out kids... puke...

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There's been a lot of discussion over at FreeRepublic...

...regarding the actual connection between Nancy Lanza (Mother) and the school in question.

One member dug up the fact that Nancy Lanza is the step daughter of a very well to do and well known principal of the town of Newton who passed away back in 2003.

So one thing is certain, people in Newton certainly knew who she was. That much is certain.



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Conservative AND Libertarian!!!

It's the drugs - no doubt about it. They diagnose normal kids

...with weird "diseases" like ADD, hyperactive-behaviors etc.

But this is just kids being kids, and when you give them lithium, Prozak, Zoloft etc you ALTER their normal behavior in an awful way and now people are dying because if it.

This has NOTHING TO DO with gun laws.

There is absolute proof that some of these anti-depressants cause young adults to have suicidal behavior.

Two years ago a 21 year old University of Washington women hanged herself out of the blue in a dorm stairway. She had a lot going for her. She was intelligent and a musician who played in local coffee shops.

Later it was reported that she had used Zoloft which has a BLACK LABEL WARNING that anyone under 25 MAY EXIBIT SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR.


Quit prescribing the drugs - end the shootings. Easy solution.

I believe that when these kids contemplate suicide, they don't want to die alone so they go to places which ban guns and do their deeds.

But don't blame gun laws.

If we mis-diagnose this problem by blaming gun laws and don't address these drugs and the doctors prescribing them, this will continue to happen more and more.


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Get them out!

Is allowing teachers (or any adult - think Virginia Tech, not just grade schools) to carry concealed weapons the answer to this type of tragedy? Well, it's one of them. But there's a more fundamental question.

Doesn't debating the issue of whether adults should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon in a public school assume that public schools are legitimate?

Shouldn't we call them what they are - government schools, not public schools? "Public" sounds so innocuous.

And shouldn't we be proclaiming (not debating) that they shouldn't exist? It is not the function of government to educate the populace. There's a word for that - brainwashing.

And shouldn't you take your kids out of government schools where they are at risk academically, spiritually, morally as well as physically?

How many kids were killed in Christian schools today? How many kids were killed in home schools today?

Get them out! Take your kids out of government schools. Put them in a private school. Put them in a church school. Teach them at home. But GET THEM OUT!

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It's not brain washing....
It's brain poisoning!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Call Them What They Are

Government run indoctrination centers.


I'd really like to know where and

how a minor got two handguns.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

I heard it reported

that the guns were registered to his mom


brother said he had aspergers, a form of autism. Not violent type of personality disorder. Probably on some type of drug.

These are the drugs...

vaccines, fluoride, and gmo food!

The reason is "mandatory automobolie seat belts"

Before mandatory seat belts I drove my old car to school with a shootgun and a 22 rifle in the gun rack I also had a large pocket knife in my pocket. No one ever got killed or even injured----------THINK ABOUT IT!

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell

the real cause....

The rat-race created by government. Marginalize people until they can find no constructive avenues in life and they will eventually find destructive ones. Add state violence, disregard for the rule of law and civil liberties, and we get a world plagued by injustice. Violence always begets violence, and the cycle will continues. Liberty and leaving people alone is the only recipe for peace.