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The True Source Of Random & Mass Shootings And Violence

http://youtu.be/UhO0Pul_FcE

Published on Jul 23, 2012
Please visit LIKE and SHARE our PAGE: http://www.facebook.com/C... Find out why Dr. Ron Paul is crusading to STOP mandatory mental screening and forced drugging of our children. This video highlights the link between psychiatric drugs and acts of senseless violence, including nearly all recent mass-shootings and school shootings.

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I got a WOT warning when I clicked on it...

...so I don't know.

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This is boloney. Of course

This is boloney. Of course there is a problem with too much prescription drugs... But why doesn't Europe have this problem? Or Canada?? Toronto has 3.4 murders per 100,000 people every year. Whereas Baltimore for example has 33 per 100,000 murders every year. To put that in perspective... Guadalajara (second largest city in Mexico... you know that country Americans are all scared of?) has 16 murders per 100,000 people. Crap like this (mass school/mall/park shootings almost never happen in Canada or Europe and they take just as many, if not more, prescribed medications. Look at the the facts relative to other countries.

It happens in every country bright eyes.

Maybe they should arrest you for spreading misinformation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Canada

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U.S. Kids Take More

U.S. Kids Take More Psychotropic Drugs Than Europeans

Time Line of Worldwide School and Mass Shootings

Most of these slayings do happen here in the USA. Most of the incidents are committed by teens/young adults, on psychotropic drugs (or recently SELF removed from dosing). The country where most of these incidents are occurring has the highest prescription rate of teens/young adults on psychotropic drugs.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

facts? really?

Correlation does not prove causality-

"Not saying the meds dont cause people to do these things, but I dont think the fact that all these killers were are meds is sufficient evidence to show that meds are the cause. Unstable people are usually put on meds so its not really surprising that people who kill are on meds.

I love this movement. But sometimes we anti-government folks jump to way too many conclusions too quickly. We need to better practice healthy skepticism." - by Cobbforliberty

IF 99 smokers out of 100

IF 99 smokers out of 100 people die of lung cancer, and 1 non smoker out of 100 dies of lung cancer, that also certainly does not PROVE that smoking causes lung cancer. It is only a correlation. But when all other things are equal, and the root cause of lung cancer cannot FACTUALLY be determined, sciences ALWAYS uses correlations as proof in such cases.

When such a large percentage of persons on psychotropics, or those who were on these meds and then suddenly stopped dosage, are responsible for the majority of these killings...it would be very unwise to casually dismiss such as being an unlikely cause.

When we can look back to times when there was far less gun control, when FULLY automatic weapons were legal and ordinary citizens possessed them, when major economic depressions occurred, and no psychotropic medications were available...and mass slayings were uncommon, we might should look to the FACT that there is a strong CORRELATION between psychotropic medications and these slayings.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

What? Show me the studies

What? Show me the studies that back up your claim of a strong correlation between taking anti depressants and gun violence. Im saying that there isn't even a strong correlation as was stated earlier these individuals may have a predisposition to manic behavior as the reason they are on the medications in the first place...

A "correlation" is not based

A "correlation" is not based upon study, correlation is based upon statistics.

People may have a "disposition" to depression, but of a none violent nature. But the same person on psychotropics may become suicidal and possible homicidal.

Yogda posted a very interesting video above. You should watch it. All of our "psychosis" conditions have existed in humans for thousands of years without treatment. So too, school killings are not new, they've been happening for over 100 years (documented). The difference is that when looking back in time these incidents show situational explanations (anger, grief, ect) whereas in recent times there are many that are just random violence, no situation occurring to explain the acts. And in these many unexplained acts is on psychotropics or is prescribed meds that they have recently decided they no longer want to take.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Here is nothing but mayhem and all of them on SSRI Meds

These school murders all involving kids on SSRI meds from all over the world.

http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=school

Murder/Suicides
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=murdersuicide

More Murders
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=murders

Suicides
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=suicides

Road Rage
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=roadrage

Workplace
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=workplace

Teachers
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=teacher

Soldiers
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=soldier

Postpartum
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=postpartum

Celebs
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=celebrity

Won Court Cases
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=won

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3 things

1. I'm sure all the murderers prescribed drugs had some significant issues.

2. I'm sure the drugs changed the experience of those issues in those disturbed and troubled minds.

3. I'm sure the acts of that disturbed person with an altered experience of their problems were horrendous

One thing I'm not sure of though is that the drugs are the determining factor as to whether the acts would have occurred. I can certainly support more careful prescription of them if only because it would be better for many issues to be resolved by the person with an unaltered reality and by other treatment. Simplistic but good video. Very worthy of more research and attention.

Finding Drs. who are "More Careful"

Your comment "...more careful prescription..." I believe is the key. And by this I don't mean more careful prescription of just drugs, but more careful prescription of treatments that are actually oriented towards curing the cause of the disorder.

What does 'more careful' mean? Do you know anybody on psychiatric medications that had any causal diagnosis done? In practice, it is close to 0% get tested for why they have their developmental disorder. (By this I mean, blood or urine tests that look for things like heavy metal poisoning, inflammation regulations problems, essential nutrient testing, etc.) These are just a few of the potential underlying causes of brain dysfunction that results in behavioral disorders.

It can be relatively difficult to find somebody who is actually trained in doing a more careful diagnosis of developmental disorders. Only 25% of medical school teach even a single course in nutrition. Functional medicine practitioners take a more appropriate approach to these types of conditions, but they are relatively few in numbers yet.

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The Connecticut shooter has

The Connecticut shooter has now been identified as suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, which, I believe, is thought to be caused by the virtually compulsory vaccination of infants. After these vaccinations, bright, happy, children often become moody, sullen, and withdrawn. State controlled medicine is the culprit here. Annual flu shots and other virtually compulsory immunizations aggravate the reaction. Could this be the real cause of this mass murder?

Oyez

Yes

Most certainly.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Big Pharma A Good Short?

That video makes me think this may be a good time to short pharmaceutical stocks.

Ed Rombach

There are already articles

There are already articles blaming poor mental healthcare for all of these incidents of mass murder. But the arguments won't be to reduce the poor healthcare, they will be that we don't have ENOUGH of this poor mental healthcare. This video won't be heard nearly so loud as Big Pharma's voice for the need for MORE and MORE of their poor mental healthcare.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Health Literacy

As Ron Paul taught us...we need to take personal responsibility for our health care. The US has one of the lowest health literacy rates in the industrialized world.

When we start researching the underlying causes of mental disorders and how to treat and cure them properly, we will not be at the mercy of Big Pharma's poor mental healthcare system, not their paid lackies in the government who force us to pay ever more of our dollars into this system.

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Shouldn't we use this event to measure compulsory ed. laws?

What are we teaching ourselves and our children when we allow compulsory education statutory laws to usurp our God-given parental rights?

What do we tell our children about their intrinsic worth, when we turn them over to strangers, to be taught government-serving ideals, within a disarmed, pro-pharma, authoritarian structure that sees parental authority as a competitive threat?

How many adults among those killed wished in their final moments that they had personal access to an equalizing self-defense tool that might have ended this murderous assault sooner than the shooter's timing? How many of the children desperately wished someone trusted with their care had the means to defend them? How many parents had the means to defend their children, but were kept away; unable to intervene lest they be perceived as a threat by the "authorities"?

Ah, but mere miles away; secure within a heavily-guarded chamber; state legislators crafted the statutes that made these wretched outcomes more likely. We either call this what it is, or they will use the fearful confusion in the aftermath of this event to expand more of their statutory color-of-law against our rights.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

What about the impact on the law enforcement folks?

How many armed law enforcement officers had to deal with the aftermath of horrible state legislation that forced the law-abiding teachers and staff to face this assault unarmed?

Would it be hard to believe that most, if not all of them would have given their weapon to anyone of these adults rather than find them victims of this wicked, but legally-prescribed, outcome?

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Drug mixing and CPS foster children

They seldom mention the interactions of drugs taken together such as Valium and Vicodin. They are frequently prescribed together and one of the "side effects" is sudden death. Kind of a serious side effect. No where was that mentioned when my son had knee surgery and they gave him both. Or when my husband was in an accident and they gave him both out of the 5 people in my immediate family everyone has been prescribed both together at some point. Many kids in the foster care system as young as 18 months are on these drugs some on a dozen together. I just was certified and have my grandsons (long story) and the certification process and questions? "How was your first sexual experience"? Really! I am 50 and that matters as a parent now how exactly? The "reimbursement" rate is a base set by age and a more than double increase if they are "problem" kids. So kids on SSRI's they get paid more, like twice as much if the kid is 5 (in OR)your paid $639 kids on lots of drugs you get an additional $850. Copy pasted from linked site.The more I learn the more disgusted I become.

http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/children/fostercare/docs/loc-est-a...
"The new rates are shown below, effective September 1, 2009
Base Rate: the established rate, based on the age of the child or young adult, is intended to assist in the cost of providing food, clothing, housing, daily supervision, personal incidentals, and basic transportation.
Monthly Payment Rates - Base Level
Ages 0-5 $639
Ages 6-12 $728
Ages 13-20 $823
Enhanced Supervision: an additional payment for the enhanced supervision responsibilities of an eligible child or young adult. The Level of Care based on the child's special needs, as determined through the CANS assessment tool. Until a CANS is completed for a child, the specific level of care payment cannot be determined.
Monthly Payment Rates - Enhanced Supervision
Level one: $212
Level two: $414
Level three: $850
Note: Enhanced Supervision payments are in addition to the Base Rate (example: 10 year old child at level two per CANS assessment would receive $728 + $414 = $1142 total)
Personal Care Services Program: an additional payment to a qualified provider of Personal Care Services based on an assessment by a licensed Registered Nurse for a Level of Care and through a personal care services plan."

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want because you think it would be good for him. – Robert Heinlein

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Its time

I hope everyone who has viewed this is joining the fight.

http://www.cchr.org/take-action/get-involved.html

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

I am tired of the gun control talk

disarming the public only emboldens the criminals for now the public is less apt to defend itself. I am sure that school had a no gun policy but that did not stop a gun from entering the premises. Gun control is analogous to your 'check engine light' coming on in your car so you go to the mechanic to get the light removed, but do not address the engine at all.

CobbforLiberty posted this below.

Correlation does not prove causality.
Submitted by cobbforliberty on Sun, 12/16/2012 - 00:24. Permalink

"Not saying the meds dont cause people to do these things, but I dont think the fact that all these killers were are meds is sufficient evidence to show that meds are the cause. Unstable people are usually put on meds so its not really surprising that people who kill are on meds.
I love this movement. But sometimes we anti-government folks jump to way too many conclusions too quickly. We need to better practice healthy skepticism."

I second it.

No, correlation does not prove causality, but

we're talking BIG BUSINESS here. Do you think that the pharmaceutical industry is looking to prove causality? And how about the FDA? I learned through the Burzynski movie (I think it was), re a cancer cure, that the FDA derives income from pharmaceutical companies, a clear conflict of interest, in addition to other less-than-above-board connections regarding DRUG TESTING. Re at least certain vaccines, for instance, are you aware that the supposed placebo "control group" was not given a "sugar pill" but a formula that contained some, though not all, of the flu vaccine, meaning that comparing the groups, ONLY SOME of the ingredients were actually tested for their possible effects? Furthermore, regardless of how flawed testing methods might or might not be, drugs are *tested* individually, although they might commonly be used *in combinations* - that never were and never will be tested. P.S. These combinations can be used deliberately OR (see "Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher" below) it can occur when "switching drugs" (due to inefficacy or side effects) when the chemicals from the FIRST drug are still in the system when the SECOND drug is administered.

I think people should think twice about taking these drugs or having their children take them, if only a "correlation" - at this point, anyway! There is plenty of circumstantial evidence, not just school shootings and other violent crimes (i.e., those that are major enough to even make the news) but doctor after doctor coming forward from personal experiences in their practices; books written by researchers and insiders to warn patients/customers of some irresponsible industry practices to consider; plus the FACT that it remains *unknown* (admitted by the pharmaceutical companies) HOW these chemicals work the way they do - why, to begin with, the term "selective" in SSRI is a misnomer: they are known to NOT be selective; and furthermore, the possible side effects (some SEVERE!) that are KNOWN, acknowledged within the drug's packaging.

And while enough adults take these drugs - chemicals that effect the BRAIN, it's important to remember that *children's* brains are *still forming* into their teens.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

The comment was referring to the video.

The video showed a correlation between crazy suicidal gunman and psychotropic drugs. But anyone who performs these heinous crimes and kills themselves is obviously in some pain. They, more than likely, tried psychiatry before they totally went off the deep end. So it seems highly probable that they would all be on some kind of psychiatric medicine in at least the last few weeks of their lives.

I agree that the industry is corrupt and allopathy is the Rockerfeller's medicine for the masses, but that was not the point.

Yes, I see. I agree that we

don't know. I guess I'd just still say that, since there does seem to be a correlation, and since known side effects can be so severe, it deserves some deep scrutiny. But who'd do it? The way things are now, it's good for doctors, psychologists, and psychiatrists, good for the pharmaceutical companies, good for drug stores, good for universities (funded by big pharma)... good for the economy! The only ones it is not good for are the people suffering from side effects and possibly (I'm referring to the correlation) their victims.

"The federal government’s health statisticians figure that about one in every 10 Americans takes an antidepressant." http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-an... That's over 31 MILLION AMERICANS on these drugs. If only a tiny fraction *caused* people to become murderous, it would be in the hundreds of thousands. Mass shootings make headlines, but they're rare. There needs to be statistics collected on all murders or suicides vis a via antidepressants.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

From a Mother With a Violent Child - it's not guns

"In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness."

http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unth...

"I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am Jason Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help."

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

Hmmm, I see all the mothers

Hmmm, I see all the mothers are here. Where are the fathers???

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Deadbeat

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"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

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I guess that means soccer practice is more important? A matter of priorities.

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Re mother's horror story w/violent child

There's no good answer. You don't want a child like that in public school or other public setting - or even at home (he had two traumatized siblings). Nor does he belong in prison. Keep him drugged in a constant near-sleep state so he can't be a danger to others or himself?

But I have to wonder where it began. If you see my comment/watch "Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher" (and I wish the mother could), her journey through hell began with taking an antidepressant (while depressed over a divorce situation). When she had bad side effects, they switched to something else - and without detoxing her first, so that she was then dealing with a combination of chemicals in her system that caused far worse side effects. It went seriously downhill from there and she was about to be committed. She eventually got herself detoxed from ALL of it.

There were three things I noticed in that piece: where's the father? (divorce situation?); preoccupation w/video games (w/their own effect on the BRAIN, including but not limited to desensitization and a blurring of the line between reality and fantasy (why they can be used by the military before active duty combat), plus causing pent up energy and emotions that *will* come out sooner or later - how much time has the child spend sitting in front of a screen?); AND the mother's noting the MYRIAD drugs/cocktails the child had had. A TOXIC MIX I'd say.

If that were my son, to begin with, I'd put him in rehab under the care of a naturpath to get him a) detoxed, and b) built up again. What's to lose? The child's life is hell on earth. Maybe he is mentally ill. Maybe he's a product of the current cultural status quo.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir