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The truth doesn't require

The truth doesn't require many words.

Liberty = Responsibility

All the news that's fit to print

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Another Exemplar...

...one of many, showing the faux individualism and liberty-belief amongst this 'supposed' liberty movement.

Have you ever considered focusing on specific and individual 'bad-acts' and placing responsibility, accountability and sanction/punishment there?

Of course not...

And people continue to argue for inclusiveness and acceptance as long as a certain percentage of beliefs and advocacy is kinda-sorta related to liberty.

Pathetic, imo.

deacon's picture

why not go after the g-parents?

after all they created the ones who created them kids?
or the great g-parents,they created the ones who created the ones
who created them kids?
i can see going after the minors parents,as they are underage
but not for ones of legal age,at some point you have to take
responsibility for your own lives and actions
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

And Deacon as well

Must be one of those days. Upvoted.

Sounds like the OP has one heck of a chip on the shoulder.

Eric Hoffer

deacon's picture

heh heh heh

strange days indeed
first finding out hell froze over
and now this!!!! lol
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

At this rate

At this rate, I'm going to need to set up shop selling parkas down there. Organizing sled dog races?

Haha, it's kind of funny, we spend so much time fighting on these boards that we forget that we probably agree 97% of the time, it's just the 3% of the time that we REALLY vehemently disagree that colors the conversation.

Eric Hoffer

deacon's picture

i just gotta give thanks again

your comment really opened my eyes
and changed the way i look at things
we do agree 97% of the time,this is true in most cases with every
interaction we all have with each other
I think about this often
again,thank you
wayne

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

Thanks for the reply again Wayne

If you're ever in Detroit, let me know and we can grab a beer. Apologies for us getting harsh in the past.

Eric Hoffer

deacon's picture

apologies?

i will gladly take that,as long as you take mine :)
i never hold a grudge against anyone
and i will certainly let you know if i head that way
also you are more than welcomed here
wayne

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

deacon's picture

oh my friend

everyone has a disagreement or 2
i have gotten to the point in life
that i know people are more important
than a circumstance(because that is but a moment)
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

move along, nothing to read here...

Wow, just a big wow will do for me.

I just held you up as a good Liberty minded person too.

LOL

Patriot Cell #345,168
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Holy...

and I just agreed with rp4pres...

Hell has frozen over.

Eric Hoffer

Even a clock is right twice a day.

Congrats!! lol

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

This is in the running for the "dumbest post ever"

why didn't you blame the neighbors and his friends who also influenced his life, maybe more than the parents.

what a stupid post!

Why didn't I blame the neighbors and his friends???

Are you kidding? Because they didn't marry that woman and father that child. THAT'S why.

You call mine the dumbest post ever, but your question may be the dumbest one ever.

You don't think the parents of all those dead kids don't have a right to question the father of the killer???

I sure do. Because his bad parenting played a big role in this.

Including running off from the marriage when the grass looked greener on the other side.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Your assessment is terrible!

Even in the Bible, we are told that we are all accountable for our own actions and not the actions of others.

There are terrible parents everywhere, I know some, but they are not criminals for being so.

They are however, guilty before God for not bringing their children up in ther fear and admonition of the Lord.

Our sins are our own!

Most however are not God fearing people themselves.

We live in a very wicked world as you know, and it will get darker and more wicked as the days pass in these last days.

This has been foretold.

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Pipe down snapper head

you are making quite a few assumptions and making a fool out of yourself to boot.

you know nothing of the parenting, good or bad
you know nothing about the father or mother
you know nothing about the divorce and its affects

basically you know nothing and are making wild accusations and demand satisfaction.

what a fucking moron.

LOL

+1 for the creative language alone. :)

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

What?

Law enforcement (sic) should go after the public school system first, the pharmaceutical industry second, and way down the line should be the father. We do not know the circumstances of the divorce. Are you locked into the Hegelian dialectic/religious fanatic world? I thought you were above that. Let's keep separation of church and state alive.

There IS no seperation of church and state.

The government uses tax code to punish childless people and financially reward procreation.

Have you ever heard of the the Earned Income Tax Credit?

If you're a unmarried woman, you get $4000.00 a year PER CHILD from the federal government even if you don't earn a dime or owe any taxes.

All you do is file for it and presto - there's the money!

This is as far from the seperation of church and state as you can get.

Also, there should be mo permits or fees required from government for marriage.

Marriage should only be between the couple and whoever (if anyone) they choose to perform the ceremony.

Get the government OUT of the marriage business and then I would change my opinion in my original post.

Then people can procreate and divorce all they want and I wouldn't care because they wouldn't be using government to harm others.

Of course the easiest solution to all of this is to just end the federal income tax and that would solve it immediately.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Huh?

"Let's keep separation of church and state alive."

What does this mean?
You know that isn't a law its a sentiment.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Agree with half of it

You can't prosecute people for divorce.

BUT, you are absolutely correct in that the breakdown of his parents marriage had an affect on him in a major way (as it does with all children). It has been reported that many friends and family had noticed that since his Dad left he had spiraled downward.

His brother Ryan claims he (the brother) hadn't talked to him in 3 years. This is sad, how do you ignore your own family for that long?

His Dad moved out and re-married. How involved was he in his mentally impaired son's life? Was he helping carry some of the burden in raising him? It doesn't appear that way at all.

Could things have been different if Adam had two parents who loved each other and helped him through life around?
Its very possible that they could have.

America needs more lifelong marriages and more Father's who stick around to raise their sons and daughters.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

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I was in the midst of writing a longer rebuttal to this, but "Wow, you're an idiot" is much more to the point. Thanks, More_Liberty.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

It takes two to get married,

It takes two to get married, but it only takes one to get divorced. Around 3/4 of divorces are the decision of the wife. Do you know who's decision is was in this case? Did the father even have a choice to stay in the marriage?

There are many studies that show children, not just sons, do much better under the care of the father then under the care of the mother. They do BEST with the care of both,50/50 arrangements, but when both is not an option, they do better with the father. Our society ignores this and gives the children to the mother in these cases. Did the father have the opportunity for custody of the children?

If you want to prosecute someone these questions should be asked. It could be that the State should be held responsible for giving custody to the mother.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Yep. And the husband has the right "to put her away"...

Yep. And the husband has the right "to put her away" under certain circumstances.

The reality is we don't know which one or both was at fault for the divorce.

And fault in divorce according to the bible and fault in divorce according to modern American PAGAN courts (1 Corinthians 6) is two different things for which most Americans can not even understand or comprehend because most who call themselves Christians know NOT Christ nor do they reference their bibles even infrequently.

Fact is there is no understanding and even total misunderstanding of who is at fault because so-called Christian pastors and priests have already differed to the PAGAN Courts or worse yet themselves usurped the authority that God granted only to the husband in deciding the outcome.

I guess according to Pawnstorm Abraham should have been arrested and jailed for putting away his betrothed maid and son.

Maybe Pawnstorm should write his own book of scripture and publish it like Joseph Smith.

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You confuse and intermingle

You confuse and intermingle marriage and Holy Matrimony.
Marriage is under the authority of Man, it requires Man's permission and is put asunder by men in Man's courts according to men's laws. It is an institution created by Men that PARALLELS Holy Matrimony.

Holy matrimony is under the authority of God, no man may put asunder. It requires only God's permission, and only God's laws govern it.

The Bible has NOTHING to do with Marriage. And State's Statutes have NOTHING to do with Holy Matrimony. God has no authority over Marriage, the State has no authority over Holy Matrimony.

The situation we are discussing is a marriage, under the authority of the State. The Bible plays no part in the discussion.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

A couple questions:

1. Are you married?
2. Do you have children?

Judging by your post I can't imagine that you do.

Wow

You're an idiot.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."