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Reality Check - Ben Swann - The very politically incorrect truth about the Second Amendment

Reality Check - Ben Swann - The very politically incorrect truth about the Second Amendment

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What someone needs to say on MSM

Now, if we could just get someone to actually say something like this on MSM.

"Do I need a high powered weapon for hunting? no.
protect myself from a burglar? no.
But, if I find a drone hovering outside my window, I just might need that and more!"

Ben Swann IS MSM!

But I certainly get your point.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

At least for some he is

Mainstream Media is ANY media that accounts for a large flow of information.

The Media we've all HAD IT with is the Corporate Media, run by the same corporations that have infiltrated the government.

So for me, all the alternative media I have bookmarked is MY MSM and will hopefully grow to a national and international level. One already pretty much is and that's "Breaking The Set" with Abby Martin on RT America.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Will homeland security at every school be the final solution?

I wouldn't bet my life on it but I predict Obama's "task force" will come back with a recommendation to have TSA style Homeland Security at every public school. Worse is that I believe Americans will go for it.

Two main reasons:

- It took 9/11 for Americans to demand a solution from government and now molestation, radiation and nude imaging are the norm at airports. We've already proven we will tolerate it. And now Americans are once again demanding a solution to this incident from Washington.

- All this gun control talk has stirred up a hysterical frenzy from the right. Think of how relieved conservatives and gun owners will be upon learning they get to keep their guns. Heck, they'll practically demand Homeland Security as the solution. This is already happening. The NRA is now calling for 'armed security' at every school, as today's headline reads.

Again, people are demanding Washington come up with some solution and make no mistake they WILL implement one. So what's it going to be? Given a choice between homeland security and gun grabs my bet is on the former.

If men are good, you don't need government; if men are evil or ambivalent, you don't dare have one.



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Because this man is larger than life and a legend in his own merit...I give this post THREE bumps.

Get' em Ben.

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Thanks Ben...and leapingfurther

I wrote a post a long time ago about what happened when I was handing out RP brochures. Aside from homes and meetings, I went to sporting goods and gun stores.


I overheard a group of guys talking in a sporting goods store that voting doesn't matter and that a lot of folks just aren't going to vote anymore. One guy told another customer in there that Bush/Obama were directly responsible for more guns being purchased in this country than anytime they could ever remember during their lifetime. They were buying all kinds of stuff, and ammo. Then this other guy mentioned that the number of militia in this country has surpassed any number in history but they no longer participate on the internet.

I thought I had an easy in with Ron Paul and tried to approach a couple of guys with RP 2nd Amendment slims. One guy told me told me to quit acting like a brainwashed panzy and all that political crap was for peons like me.

Something is brewing, and it ain't beer.


"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Frankly, I've been hearing

Frankly, I've been hearing more anti-government sentiment from people than I can remember in my entire life (other than during the "Oil Crisis" in the 70s). Part of the population evidently can't get enough with the handouts and bailouts, the other part is getting ticked off to the point of exasperation. Also, people I never knew to be "pro-gun" are becoming concerned to the point where they feel like they need to rely on something other than police anymore.

Yes it means you

Yes it means you theoretically can own a tank. I wouldn't want to go up against another tank without one. That was tried at the Tiananmen Square protest in '89, the good guys lost. You have to ask, how many people do you know, who can afford a tank? I personally don't know anyone who can afford an Escalade let alone a tank.

Tanks and RPG's

Does this mean that citizens should legally have access to RPG's and tanks? Where do we draw the line, if at all? (This is a question that liberals often pose when confronted with the legality of semi-automatics -- wondering what DP'ers thoughts are.)

Simple answer

...and TANKS for asking...

Many people own tanks.

Weapons that kill indiscriminately are considered "offensive", and therefore, weapons of war (AKA mass murder). These would include bombs, hand grenades, mortars, nukes, etc.

Having said that...Any weapon typically issued to an individual soldier should be available to the individual private citizen.
M-16 with (aimed) grenade launcher, S.A.W., minigun, for example.

Interesting Point......

and I'm not sure what the answer is but I do know that if our government ordered our military to turn on the people, most would refuse the order and join sides with the people, so we would have tanks, RPGs, etc.

wish you were right, but think you are wrong

I have often heard the suggestion the military wouldn't ever turn on the American people, I don't really buy it and here is why:

The gov't can control the message far better than any protesters against the gov't in a time of crisis. If the gov't controls the message (and they would control what soldiers hear more tightly then even the rest of the nation) then they can distort the picture and make protesters into rioters or rioters into homicidal murders.

I think the day our soldiers were faced w/ the choice of American people or gov't gov't, the gov't will be trying (and likely succeeding) at creating the illusion that it is really the American people/gov't vs. domestic terrorists - thus making it far more likely the military will fire on US citizens.

May have been true at one time but.....

we have the internet now. Also, you can fool some of the military some of the time but not all of the military all the time.

The reason Ron Paul had so much support from active military veterans is due to the fact, they know our government lies and RP tells the truth.

Are we to believe that all those active military veterans that supported Ron Paul are going to open fire on Americans for protesting the government for ignoring 2A?

Isn't that what happened at

Isn't that what happened at Kent State years ago?

I hope you are right...

I hope you are right but it is not something I am willing to bet my life on. I was raised in a military family and I got a full view of how people in the military are trained to blindly follow orders. Nothing is up to discussion and there is no democracy and questioning orders. You will obey. That was drilled into me and sometimes beat into me but fortunately I was not the type to take orders.


Excellent Commentary on the Second

I wish our citizens would take time to read not only the second but all amendments plus the bill of rights.

Senator Schumer is wrong when he says no amendment is absolute. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/chuck-schumer-guns_...

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

You definitely know what our founders were thinking

when you look at what they did.
The Revolutionary was actually started with 'the shot heard 'round the world' when the Brits went to Concord to confiscate Americans' weapons and to Lexington to capture Samuel Adams and John Hancock.
When the Brits were stealing gunpowder from the storehouse in Virginia, Patrick Henry led about 5,000 men towards the area where the theft was happening and the outcome was that the fearful Brits paid for the gunpowder. The gunpowder was later moved to protect it from the Brits grubby paws.
It's the Revolutionary War all over again. The Brits were trying to do what the central government is trying to do now - and the reasons why the central govt is trying to do it now is the same reason why the Brits tried to do it back then - to prevent American citizens from being able to "dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them..." because the evil force in DC knows "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
I think it's time we remind the citizens that the Declaration of Independence is the first of our 4 organic laws and the most important as it clearly outlines our fundamental political principles.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

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"Matching Force" absolutely!

Reminds me of Katrina where some wealthy citizens were defending their homes and said that the military police(or whoever was confiscating) were intimidated by their armaments.

For some reason this is the first time I think that the phrase "the security of a free State" really jumped out at me.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

92' LA Riots - Businesses Had to Protect Themselves.

Not directly related to your Katrina example but reminded me of LA. Korean-American business owners in Compton protected their property by exercising their 2nd amendment rights. A lot of these guys are ex-ROK Servicemen. They don't mess around.

"The police were no where to be found, mobs with bricks, bottles, and pipes were looting and burning stores, especially Korean-owned stores. Some people were beaten then had their businesses destroyed..."



"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo


Pretty much sums up the bottom-line of it. Nice.

Now, about that 'shall not be infringed' thingy as it relates to this whole 'gun-control debate' and his promotion of 'responsible' citizens being approved and 'permitted' through government, to exercise this fundamental right, which he spoke to in another Swann thread here.