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Sandy Hook – Which Camp Are You In?

It appears our colleagues here at the Daily Paul are divided into two camps.

Camp Denial (camp one), believes the entire event at Sandy Hook as told to us by the media since Friday, December 14, is a complete and utter hoax; it is a 'wag the dog' conspiracy to disguise some other nefarious purpose. Nancy Lanza, Adam Lanza, 20 school children and 6 staff/teachers are all alive.

Camp Sandy Hook (camp two), believes the murders did occur but the events as described to us by the media lack the credibility to substantiate the current theory that Adam Lanza killed everybody, including himself.

I’m in Camp Sandy Hook. I believe the murders happened. If you are in Camp Denial, there is nothing I can write to explain how and why the killings occurred because you won’t believe it.

So if you are inclined to be in Camp Sandy Hook, let's correspond.



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We don't have all the details

We don't have all the details yet. The 'official story' is about as reliable as the Warren commission or 9-11 Commission.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

I'm in the, "This smells like

I'm in the, "This smells like crap," camp. The "facts," we are being presented simply don't pass the smell test. The simple questions are still not being answered, and the most basic facts about the case are still unknown. Who was Adam Lanza? Who was his mother, Nancy? Few people seem to know anything about these people.

And then you have to ask yourself how and why did the shooter have so much time to supposedly kill all of those kids?

When the first shot was fired, somebody called 911.

Who made the first phone call, and at what time? That is a matter of public record, but once again the basic facts aren't even talked about.

Ask 10 people tomorrow if they've ever heard of Adam Lanza. Half of them would say no.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

I'm in Camp Still Learning

But I will say that the skepticism exhibited here at the DP seems out of proportion to the quirks of the news reporting.

Perhaps there was a second shooter, a planted rifle, an extra gunman, or whatever. But, from what I've seen, the evidence is too tenuous to warrant the certainty some people are displaying here about what they take for "fact."

Analyzing video of the deceased children's parents, striving to find evidence of total insincerity and fraud, seems wholly unjustified. There is NO evidence for the whole thing being a stage play, so the fact that so many people of here have jumped on the "no children died" bandwagon indicates a hardcore cult mentality at work.

That being said, I think crying out for pictures of the corpses is also lunatic.

I'm what you'd call a 9-11 Truther, but you didn't see me scoffing at video clips of people in mourning after that day, declaring that there aren't enough tears to convince me that anyone really died. To do so would have been;

1) lacking compassion
2) lacking a sense of probability
3) motivated by an excessive desire to pride myself on finding "the Truth" (where Truth loosely translates as "the opposite of whatever the media says.")

But that's what people are doing here, about Sandy Hook.

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i understand your senitment

but how would feel if one of your loved ones
had been involved in something like this?,you knew
in your heart and every fiber of your being screamed
for answers
how would you feel if you were standing there beyond the police
barriers hearing shots going off 3 hours after they said the shooters were dead? and then claimed the shooters,who were dead, were the only ones involved,the press,cops and your reps all turned a blind eye
wouldn't you want someone to help dig and find the truth?
this is where some of the ones on DP are at,standing in the gap
it is all done out of love for everyone
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

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a question

have you changed your mind since your post
sanyhook-day 4 post?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I'm Not Convinced Adam Lanza Committed The Murders

Whenever a murder occurs there has to be one or more motives associated with it. Even an insane person formulated a reason to kill. Their delusional mental state acts out in anger against persons they know or don't know. At this point in the investigation we know little about the state of Adam Lanza's mind despite all the media disinformation published.

There were a report from the New York Daily News (a notorious tabloid) that Adam was taking Fanapt. That was a hoax (see: http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychot... ).

Another report (New York Daily News, again) wrote that Adam found out his mother had considered having Adam committed to an institution. That was a hoax as well (see: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/motive-behind-newto... ).

Russ Hanoman, a close friend of Nancy Lanza, was quoted as saying that Adam was troubled, had issues but was not violent in any way and he was a vegan (see: http://pix11.com/2012/12/16/nancy-and-adam-lanza-how-did-the... ). So Mr. Hanoman must have had some contact with Adam however minimal. What I have read consistently from people who knew Adam was that he was not violent. He did demonstrate anger from time to time but who doesn’t get upset once in a while?

What I hope to read is an interview given by the physician who treated Adam stating his or her diagnosis and what medication(s) were prescribed as part of Adam’s healthcare. No family member or friend of the family so far has stated that Adam had displayed any anger towards his mother. Until that happens I have no reason to believe Adam was capable of killing his mother or anyone else.

Is Adam the primary suspect? Of course. The police stated his body was found in a location for which he had no reason to be there, dressed in paramilitary apparel and had guns nearby. His mother is dead by gunfire in the house that he lived in with her. But who saw Adam shoot his mother or the staff or the children? No one has come forth and identified Adam as the shooter.

Sally Cox, a nurse at the school during an interview on the 60 minutes TV show said, “…And I just dove underneath my computer desk. The back of the desk has a small opening for, like, wires to come out. And I just peeked. I could see his feet and his legs from the knees down. And he-- his feet were facing in my direction. And I just froze with fear. And then he just-- it was just seconds and then he turned around and I could hear him walk out.” (see: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57559459/60-minutes-re... ). Cox implied the shooter was Adam but did not see his face to positively identify him.

There were two wounded members of the Sandy Hook staff. One of them was Natalie Hammond (see: http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Sandy-Hook-survivor-s... ). She has not given a detailed account of what she saw or heard as of yet. Anika Sonski, Natalie’s longtime friend said in the interview that she was in contact with Hammond and “ … said she knows only the barest details of what occurred.” The other person wounded is unnamed and we have no information about him (or her). We also have not heard from the custodian who ran down the hallway to warn the staff about the gunfire he heard or the person(s) he witnessed doing the shooting. There is an account of another individual found in the woods that has not been explained either. Who was he and what was he doing there?

The public needs to hear from these people so that we have a better picture to frame the motive(s) for the killings. The bodies are not enough because there are too many important and unanswered questions about this case.

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The accidental truth will always be reported first before the hard facts are quickly scrubbed by law enforcement and the media ... then the cover-up begins

Correct -- there are two camps ...

... but not the ones you cite.

On the one hand, there are those who use TRUTH as their standard.

On the other hand, there is everyone else.

Truth is determined by facts, evidence, and reason.

Truth is not determined by emotion. Truth is not determined by demagogues who pretend to be journalists. Truth is not determined by propagandists who pretend to be national or world experts. Truth is not determined by government employees who refuse to conduct a proper investigation.

And most importantly, truth is not determined by believing someone just for the sake of believing them.

Truth is determined by facts, evidence, and reason. Period.

If all of the facts and evidence support a particular theory, and no evidence refutes that theory, then the theory has a high probability of being true.

However ...

If any fact is contrary to a particular theory, then THAT is exactly where you find out which camp someone is in: Truth Camp, or Other Camp.

Evidence can be apparently contradictory to a theory, but then be discounted by a reasonable explanation.

But ...

Such evidence should NEVER BE IGNORED. It should be examined to find out IF there IS a reasonable explanation. It cannot be ASSUMED. It must be EXAMINED.

Any person who does not follow this process is NOT INTERESTED IN TRUTH. Period.

Now, regarding Sandy Hook, there are questions that don't quite add up, but which might ultimately have reasonable explanations. If they do, fine. But if they do not, then what? Do you stick your head in the sand, or do you speak out and encourage the finding of truth -- and possibly, prosecuting anyone who may have acted criminally?

There are reports from eye witnesses that hallways were "filled with smoke." How is that possible if there were no smoke canisters?

There are reports from eye witnesses that right around the time the gunshots started, the lights and power went out in the building. How did this happen?

There are reports from ear witnesses listening to police scanner tape that the car supposedly driven by Adam Lanza actually belonged to someone else not named Lanza. Is this true? What is the story?

There are numerous reasons to be skeptical about what we are told happened at Sandy Hook Elementary. Let's get some answers before we arrive at conclusions based on evidence that does NOT seem to support the "official" theory -- especially when we already know that those who write the "official" theory have lied about other similar stories in the past, and have the appearance of doing it yet again to further their agenda of gun confiscation and violation of YOUR rights.

Fair Enough. May I Ask A Question?

My question is this: do you believe the murders concerning this case, occurred? A simple, 'yes' or 'no' will suffice.

It's not necessary to give a reason why you believe or don't believe the killings happened. I would appreciate your answer very much because I think it's important to establish a common baseline of thinking on this thread.

If your answer is, 'I don't know' or 'I'm not sure' that's okay too.

Thank you in advance.

Camp - Pain ...

... of Potemkin-like macabre deceptions and ultra-manipulations. If not; THAT would be unusual.

It's A Twisted School Pageant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FXkj-r9Mc

' ... I could tell you stories ...'

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2873610

What's real is always our's to discern.

Because reducing anything down to an...

either or situation always helps sort it out.

For a group that rallies a cause more evolved than the dialectic this shit is just stupid.

"The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them." - Mark Twain

+1

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Camp Power through Deception_OR_Camp Life Of Pi

Some believe it didn't happen, but support the "official" story. This goes for many other deceptions.

The powers that be would be in this camp...few others.

And frankly, I'm not so sure they are wrong. Sure they are lying and *we* don't like to be deceived...but we dance around the truth alot to and most of us outright lie...Santa Claus, things to make children behave, lies to get out of tickets, to keep the boss off your back, to keep competition at bay, to keep the spouse off your back, etc. We do these things because we think *white* lies work better than the truth in the long run. And they mostly do.

So the powers that be do the same to us.

I know it sucks to not be in the know...but we just aren't important enough to be trusted with big decisions. Company execs lie all the time to, ultimately, the benefit of the company...and if you are part of that company, it benefits you.

So the lies about 9/11, Sandy Hook etc. are likely coverups or distractions that actually minimize public damage and possibly benefit the masses.

Religion is the poster child of this strategy. As the Life of Pi points out (spoiler), people *prefer* the sugar-coating religious lies, because they just would rather not handle harsh truths about survival, suffering, sickness, helplessness, murder, need to kill, death, no afterlife, etc.

"benefit the masses"? How did the freedom grabs & wars...

...that stemmed from 9/11 benefit the masses?

...

I think, for many here, there's a type of normalcy bias involved. Most of us, based on watching the media's relationship with Ron Paul, and the way the election went down, know the entire system--media, money, military, etc.--is built around ongoing, egregious lies. We know that things like WDMs in Iraq are now admitted and commonly accepted as lies. These all involve widespread complicity and control of MANY people, and some of these hoaxes lead to incredible body counts....So the basic elements that some people say are unthinkable with these mass shootings...the same people freely acknowledge these elements exist and are at work in other spheres.

But the immediacy and the media circus aspects of this shooting are disorienting, the gains for the establishment aren't completely clear, and the tragedy is "appealing" because it involves people like ourselves....So many here don't respond with the same degree of skepticism they bring to bear when confronted with things like war, police state and socialist propaganda.

Also, from a PR standpoint, it is worth considering that for people who aren't "awake," the idea of questioning a situation where white kids are killed is like urinating on a bible. Unnecessary and sick. So, ultimately, it may not be the best course to pursue for the liberty movement...I can't make any definite statements about that. I'm in the Mencken "camp." Better to know than to be ignorant.

Lies, skepticism, paranoia and perspective.

To survive as a community of humans, at some point there has to be some trust. There is just not enough time and resources for everyone to physically verify everything that happens.

This has the result of many people becoming too trusting of authorities, and becoming uncomfortable with people who are skeptical of the facts provided by these authorities.

It also causes those in power to take advantage of that trust, and so we get alot of stretching the truth, and reframing the question. Occasionally we get out and out boldface lies, but not really that often, there is usually some hints of truth, wiggle room with definitions, backpeddling about what is is and so on. There is also mistakes - like the Iraqi WMD - where no one cared if it was a mistake, and no one checked.

But then there is Paranoia, the X-files trust no one attitude. This causes paralysis, and doesn't help anyone. Most people in this category believe in black and white lies/truth, which is a childish and uneducated perspective. Does the public really need to see crime scene photos and bodies to verify deaths ? Paranoids would never be satisfied.

So to have a reasonable perspective, you need to consider the likelihood of there being a lie, what's gained, and the ease with which the lie can be promoted. for instance, people who would have to be complicit to promote the lie. In the case of Sandy hook, there are huge numbers of people who would have to be complicit.

Now sure, the public doesn't know everything, and the media makes some mistakes in telling the story, and politicians are opportunistic but if you believe that, for instance, these specific children were not killed by Adam Lanza, you need to reconsider your approach to life.

Sure...

Just like, as so many say, if you believe guns are good or necessary after this horrendous, shocking, tragic shooting, you need to reconsider your approach to life.

I'm not saying anything is definitely true or not true as far as who died and who is an actor, I'm just saying it's lame to draw some line and pretend people have to be on one side of it or the other.

And what you might call the ultimately conspiracy viewpoint, the one that holds that it's all a lie, all a TV show, isn't necessarily paralyzing. Someone who is convinced of this can still believe that, therefore, the best direction to go is to limit and disempower government. In fact, many of your most ardent Ron Paul supporters believe spreading Ron Paul's message is the only hope precisely because they believe the people in power are evil incarnate and capable of anything (the Alex Jones viewpoint).....this is, for many, an incredible motivator.

So, if you're an advocate of the liberty message, your best bet might be to not push people away because they happen to entertain ideas you personally find unrealistic or "unhealthy." They might think your acceptance of any MSM information is unrealistic and unhealthy. I think the conversation is healthy, and we should remember that we all have the same, or 99 percent the same, goals, despite the variations in our reasoning processes.

Falling prey to the idea of the excluded middle ground

is common. I stand firmly on the middle ground here. I neither believe the official story, nor do I believe that it did not occur. But I have not seen enough evidence that the murders actually took place, and I mistrust both the media and the authorities to tell the truth.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Not enough evidence?

What was the hullabaloo all about then? The dispatcher audio, photos of crying parents and kids, parents giving interviews on TV....

This was ALL contrived?

Maybe there is no Sandy Hook, Connecticut, either....

I doubt it was all contrived, either

once again, the excluded middle ground is the problem. The evidence for some children dieing is more solid than for others....See fishyculture's post just below mine, as well as begintowin's post further down.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

EXCELLENT

strawman BS there!
Only TWO camps, and I have to pick one?
Gee, can I build my own camp? I'll camp here all alone.
I don't know what happened in Sandy Hook, but I know the official story has too many holes in it for me to just "believe."
My camp wants to KNOW what happened, and so is attempting to investigate. If the media or police were doing this, there would be no need for my camp, but as the media (and government) have a LONG history of false flag attacks and lying through their teeth and now they have made it legal to use propaganda to promote their wars and well...
Now, if you want to know what I SUSPECT, I will tell you. I do not BELIEVE anything, except that I am being lied to.
I SUSPECT people died, and Adam and Nancy Lanza are among the dead. Who killed them? Don't know. Who killed the kids? Don't know. How many bullets were fired? Don't know. Did Adam die from a long gun bullet? Don't know. How many kids died where? Don't know. Supposedly 20 dead kids in 2 classes that were wiped out. One class had 16 kids. One kid was supposedly killed being a "hero" in the hall. (This is a RED FLAG.) NO ONE KNOWS what that kid was thinking, but we need a "hero" to tug on the heart strings... Anyway, we are up to 17 kids, and still have a whole classroom to account for.
As long as I am establishing new camps, let me assign you one:
People who want to sell the official story by painting those who ask questions with one brush, as if we all shared one thought.
I am really impressed with your skill at "divide and conquer tactics." Wonder where you got that kind of training?

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Was just thinking...

Isn't there a 3rd camp?!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

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not in the posters eyes

there are 2,one camp asks questions
the other swallows the BS

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Thank You Fishy

perfectly put.

LIBERALS, Nikki Giovanni caused VT massacre

Mobbing: anybody really interested in the true causes behind school and workplace shooting needs to understand "mobbing." Read what they did to an already unstable Cho at VT. The entire english dept. ganged up on him:

truthaboutvtshooting.blogspotcom

arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/vtmassacre.htm

Here is What I Believe So Far

1. People were murdered including children and guns were used to do the killing.

2. What was the motive? Much of the conjecture given from family members and friends who knew the Lanza family has been distorted by the media in an amateurish attempt to uncover the motive. The reporting has been 'fluid' in order to fit the crime to the reason for the killings. However I have yet to find a report from any healthcare professional who has come forward to state in an interview that Adam Lanza received treatment for a mental disorder and what drugs were prescribed for his illness. Where's the doctor?

3. The two people at the school who were wounded and the custodian who warned the teachers to flee. If anyone was able to state they saw Adam Lanza in the act of shooting the children, it would be these three people. As of yet the public has not heard from them. Why?

4. Adam Lanza allegedly did the killings. Adam is the primary suspect because his body is the only corpse found at the school that has no rationale for being there. No other shooters are in police custody. The guns at the scene belonged to his mother (Nancy). Adam lived with his mother and Nancy is dead of gunshot wounds. It all ties together very nicely. But there is no confirmed motive for Adam to kill his mother, only speculation and hyperbole whipped up by the media. Why would Adam kill his mother? If Adam was filled with rage and still wanted to lash out at society, why go to the elementary school and not the high school which was closer to where he lived? Teenagers experience the most peer pressure in high school and look for attention.

5. Compare Adam Lanza versus:

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, who in 1999 killed 12 students and 1 teacher during the Columbine high school massacre (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Harris_and_Dylan_Klebold ) ,

Jeffery Weise, who in 2005 killed 1 security guard, 1 teacher and 5 students during the Red Lake high school massacre (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Weise),

Seung-Hui-Cho, who in 2007 killed 5 teachers and 27 students during the Virginia Tech massacre (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho)
and Steven Phillip Kazmierczak, who in 2008 killed 5 students during the Northern Illinois University massacre (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Phillip_Kazmierczak#Perp...).

6. What’s similar about Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Jeffery Weise, Seung-Hui-Cho, and Steven Phillip Kazmierczak?

A. They all did not try to hide their identities.

B. They all did not try to hide their anger at society and provided proof of their abnormal behavior in social media.

C. They all had a documented history of being under a doctor’s care and had received prescription medication.

7. Adam Lanza, what do we really know about him?

A. Adam hide his identity from the public (had his brother’s identification on his body, hard drives were destroyed from his home computer, etc.).

B. There is no historical record that Adam was angry at society.

C. There is no historical record that Adam participated in social media.

D. There no historical record that Adam was under a doctor’s care or had taken any prescription medication.

8. Conclusion – At this point in the investigation Adam doesn’t fit the profile of a disturbed young man who was capable of killing. He was introverted and shy but had no criminal record. No verifiable evidence has been presented so far that points to Adam having a reason to kill his mother or the children at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Until other facts comes to light, I believe someone else committed the murders because that person had motive. Guess who might that be?

How do you know?

Because you saw it on TV?!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

A decent summary but

1. We also know that the guns found were the ones used in the shootings.

2. The only witnesses mentioned in the press were the young children who ran out the door past the gunman. The press has not reported whether this children identified Lanza, but often eye witness descriptions from young children, who are scared, is unreliable.

3. Its true that the motives are just speculation. Investigators may or may not have more information about motives, but the press has not really cared too much about truth.

4. Everyone is looking for consistencies between all these mass shootings, as if they are the same. The problem with both the news media, and your analysis is that mass shootings like these are idiosyncratic. They are all different -including motives, circumstances, impact of social environment, etc, etc. That's why there is no real solution to these things, and they have always happened and always will. This makes determining and understanding motives often very difficult.

5. So could someone other than Lanza have done this ? Without access to police evidence and interviews with witnesses we can't say for sure and the press is not interested in telling what happened. But, the circumstance of Lanza's body at the scene says he was at least involved. I'd bet police also have fingerprints on the weapons, ballistics from these weapons linking them to the shootings and Lanza, and lack of other evidence that would imply a second shooter.

Got a mouse in your pocket? Who is "we?"

1. "We" were told the only guns there were handguns, until the ME said everyone died from long gun wounds. No one has EVER tied the bullets to any particular gun, that I have seen. If you have that kind of proof linking weapon to murder, I would LOVE to see it.
2. There is supposed to be a custodian who warned everyone who survived, too. Or else the body count is off again. Or are you telling me that a 6 year old was the custodian?
3 I'll give you.
4. There IS a link between nearly all these shootings, it is antidepressants.
5. Adam's body at the school proves he died there. No one has told me yet if Adam died of long gun wounds, and if so, how he managed that. No one has explained why the name "Lanza" comes across police scanners before the shooter was identified. And if you are "betting" that police have proof YOU are now in speculation mode. I have not even heard the police claim they have any proof. What they DID have, almost immediately, was a story how RYAN was dead in the school with ONLY handguns at the scene, and ADAM was in custody. I understand they have a "mistaken identity" cover story now, but that does not explain how they had BOTH Lanza boys accounted for, then lost one. And how did they know, so fast, that BOTH girlfriends were missing? And why do we keep hearing that Adam was a loner if he had a girlfriend?

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

We = the General public 1.

We = the General public

1. "We" were told the only guns there were handguns, until the ME said everyone died from long gun wounds. No one has EVER tied the bullets to any particular gun, that I have seen. If you have that kind of proof linking weapon to murder, I would LOVE to see it.

--Well, the ME identified the weapon used - that is the official conclusion, announced publicly. Now you can disbelieve the ME, but you need some evidence to show he is lying. The fact that the press mis-reported this detail is not proof of anything. The details should be available publicly when final reports are issued. Its OK to be skeptical of this until you see the direct evidence, but to say its a lie is not.

2. There is supposed to be a custodian who warned everyone who survived, too. Or else the body count is off again. Or are you telling me that a 6 year old was the custodian?

--Perhaps the custodian does not want to talk to the press. wouldn't be surprising. He may well have talked to the police, and I'll bet he did. So either he gave evidence that goes along with the police narrative ,or the police and the custodian are complicit in some cover up. But you can't assume a cover up just because the custodian has not talked to the press.

3 I'll give you.

4. There IS a link between nearly all these shootings, it is antidepressants.

There is no evidence of that. First, most people on antidepressants don't shoot anyone. Second, these shooters used various different antidepressants, or anti-anxiety drugs or other medications - different drugs all havingthe same connecting side effect is ridiculous. Third, their mental conditions and family situations were all different. The Feds love to profile us, so they can use that as justification to control us - if they can predict someones crime, they can. look at how they are claiming that mass murders are all white men - but this happens in China, Africa, all over the world - there is no connection to ANYTHING other than the individuals free will.

5. Adam's body at the school proves he died there. No one has told me yet if Adam died of long gun wounds, and if so, how he managed that. No one has explained why the name "Lanza" comes across police scanners before the shooter was identified. And if you are "betting" that police have proof YOU are now in speculation mode. I have not even heard the police claim they have any proof. What they DID have, almost immediately, was a story how RYAN was dead in the school with ONLY handguns at the scene, and ADAM was in custody. I understand they have a "mistaken identity" cover story now, but that does not explain how they had BOTH Lanza boys accounted for, then lost one. And how did they know, so fast, that BOTH girlfriends were missing? And why do we keep hearing that Adam was a loner if he had a girlfriend?

--Most of this was errant media reports and social media rumors - do you have proof beyond a press report or a facebook posts that they had ADAM in custody ? There were also reports that Adam had killed his father. What the police thought, and what they knew are two different things. Police always speculate wildly, and over react.
The police are so often wrong early in an investigation. In any case it is not evidence of anything.

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