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Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 12/24/2012: Government Security is Just Another Kind of Violence

By Ron Paul | December 24, 2012

The senseless and horrific killings last week in Newtown, Connecticut reminded us that a determined individual or group of individuals can cause great harm no matter what laws are in place. Connecticut already has restrictive gun laws relative to other states, including restrictions on fully automatic, so-called “assault” rifles and gun-free zones.

Predictably, the political left responded to the tragedy with emotional calls for increased gun control. This is understandable, but misguided. The impulse to have government “do something” to protect us in the wake national tragedies is reflexive and often well intentioned. Many Americans believe that if we simply pass the right laws, future horrors like the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting can be prevented. But this impulse ignores the self evident truth that criminals don't obey laws.

The political right, unfortunately, has fallen into the same trap in its calls for quick legislative solutions to gun violence. If only we put armed police or armed teachers in schools, we’re told, would-be school shooters will be dissuaded or stopped.

While I certainly agree that more guns equals less crime and that private gun ownership prevents many shootings, I don’t agree that conservatives and libertarians should view government legislation, especially at the federal level, as the solution to violence. Real change can happen only when we commit ourselves to rebuilding civil society in America, meaning a society based on family, religion, civic and social institutions, and peaceful cooperation through markets. We cannot reverse decades of moral and intellectual decline by snapping our fingers and passing laws.

Let’s not forget that our own government policies often undermine civil society, cheapen life, and encourage immorality. The president and other government officials denounce school violence, yet still advocate for endless undeclared wars abroad and easy abortion at home. U.S. drone strikes kill thousands, but nobody in America holds vigils or devotes much news coverage to those victims, many of which are children, albeit, of a different color.

Obviously I don’t want to conflate complex issues of foreign policy and war with the Sandy Hook shooting, but it is important to make the broader point that our federal government has zero moral authority to legislate against violence.

Furthermore, do we really want to live in a world of police checkpoints, surveillance cameras, metal detectors, X-ray scanners, and warrantless physical searches? We see this culture in our airports: witness the shabby spectacle of once proud, happy Americans shuffling through long lines while uniformed TSA agents bark orders. This is the world of government provided "security," a world far too many Americans now seem to accept or even endorse. School shootings, no matter how horrific, do not justify creating an Orwellian surveillance state in America.

Do we really believe government can provide total security? Do we want to involuntarily commit every disaffected, disturbed, or alienated person who fantasizes about violence? Or can we accept that liberty is more important than the illusion of state-provided security? Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens’ lives. We shouldn’t settle for substituting one type of violence for another. Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety.

Our freedoms as Americans preceded gun control laws, the TSA, or the Department of Homeland Security. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference, not by safety. It is easy to clamor for government security when terrible things happen; but liberty is given true meaning when we support it without exception, and we will be safer for it.

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Ron Paul the Anarchist, or Ron Paul the Libertarian?

"but it is important to make the broader point that our federal government has zero moral authority to legislate against violence."

Why is that? Is he saying that no government has the moral authority to legislate against violence, that laws are bad, or is he saying when liberty is a governments enemy, it's lost the moral authority to use force, because that force will NEVER serve justice?

As he's said many times; government is force, and the only legitimate purpose of government is to defend liberty. 1 + 1 = 2

If force is used to defend liberty, it's serving justice, thus the only legitimate purpose of government is to serve justice, and this government, our government, no longer has the moral authority to use force, because it no longer serves justice. It serves injustice and oppression.

any kind of government is

any kind of government is force and against liberty.

what gives someone else the right to control your life and throw you in jail at the threat of gunpoint if you don't follow their rules? if we're truly all equal, no person should have this power over another.

Nonsense.

"any kind of government is force and against liberty."

What if force is used to stop one person from taking another persons liberty?

"what gives someone else the right to control your life and throw you in jail at the threat of gunpoint if you don't follow their rules?"

If you're trying to take somebodies liberty with force, JUSTICE gives me the right. My force serves peace, a covetous mans force serves evil.

"If we're truly all equal, no person should have this power over another."

That's what gives me the right to use force; knowing that people are equals, to serve justice knowing you aren't here to be another mans servant by force. If you want to try and take another persons liberty with force, insisting that you can use violence to take their life, property or labor as yours, implying that you OWN them, than isn't that what I'm doing; saying we're equals? Isn't justice simply telling a criminal exactly that? You don't own anybody CROOK!!! You don't get to take what you covet by force. No slaves and plunder for you! We're all equal here.

Self ownership gives me the right. Protecting people as equals rather than master and servant is what gives me the right. Peace is what gives me the right, and as I've shown over and over, Anarchists don't want peace. They want destruction, and can neither explain or defend their ideology. They're ideas are DEAD, undesirable, impossible, and indefensible.

The worse part is, Anarchists know what liberty is, but they'll neither defend it, serve justice, nor do they understand what threatens our liberty, mans covetous nature.

Anarchists are akin to gun grabbers. Government is force, and just like a gun grabber, they both blame the gun. You won't get rid of violence, injustice, or mans covetous nature by getting rid of government or guns.

You'll need to serve justice.

just so i understand you

just so i understand you correctly, you're saying that you'll give up some liberty for the security that other people won't infringe on your liberty?

and by all means, justice gives you the right to stop a criminal from infringing on your liberty. i'm not arguing that point. all i'm saying is worry about yourself only and don't rely of the government for a solution, when you do, you destroy the freedom of everyone else because you think some people need the government to protect them.

Serving justice doesn't require you give up any liberty.

"just so i understand you correctly, you're saying that you'll give up some liberty for the security that other people won't infringe on your liberty?"

You don't understand anything I'm talking about, even though I've put it into the most simple terms possible. Serving justice doesn't require you give up any liberty, but it does require you take another persons liberty, and that's what Anarchists hate. They hate the idea of justice, because for the most part they're nihilists, hedonists, and libertines who just want to destroy. They FEAR justice, and they should.

Should people not have the right to self defense, because that's what justice is?

"all i'm saying is worry about yourself only and don't rely of the government for a solution"

You HAVE TO defend more than just your own liberty or you'll never get it. If you try to defend just your own, you'll quickly become outgunned by covetous men. All they'll need to do to take it is bring more force to bare against you than you have to defend yourself. (Might makes right.) People will gang up on you and take what they covet.

It's not unjust to want your own liberty. Collectivism CAN serve peace and justice:

Imagine a collective of people, defending individual liberty. An interesting idea aye? It seems like a paradox, but it's not. Does it make me a collectivist if the collective I serve defends individual liberty?

-If people want liberty, the collective can serve justice: "Freedom, liberty, and their common defense."

-If people covet plunder and slaves, the collective serves injustice: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Serving justice does not require sacrifice, but in a world filled with violent and covetous people, defending liberty may just cost you your life.

Merry Christmas in Liberty!

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As always. GOD I wish he ran things! What a WONDERFUL world it could be if only everyone listened to Ron Paul. No he's not perfect, he too is human but he is wise and educated and CALM. How does he always stay SO CALM? It's unreal!

skippy

Nice "HACK JOB" on Ron Paul by Fox News...

Nice "HACK JOB" on Ron Paul by Fox News... (Expected!)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/24/ron-paul-rips-nra...

I read their article and thought: "Something is missing here?"
They picked a few quotes and left out the meat and main message of his statement! Fox News... WE Decide what you read.

Does That Surprise You?

That's what they ALWAYS do. Why expect anything different? EVER? They suck, we already know that.

skippy

No...

Just clicked on a link on google news that said "Ron Paul" and ended up there. Wouldn't go there on purpose. Still, good to see what "we're" up against and to expose them when possible. ;-(

Thanks for this post

Thanks for this post LegalizeLiberty and all your posts of info you help out with, you rock!

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BUMP !

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His name is Edward Snowden

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Thank You.

Thank You.

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Thank ya

2 hours til Christmas!

Do i feel an earthquake coming?

His name is Edward Snowden

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Forgive me for not seeing this earlier, LL

Ron Paul never ceases to amaze me with his integrity, wisdom and graciousness.

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In the hope I will one day have the ability to converse with such honest dignity.

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Albert Camus — 'The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.'

Sounds like he listened to the last Larkin Rose

lol!

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another dose of sanity from Dr. Paul

Just wondering, why isn't this on the top of the front page?

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Michael Nystrom sets the front page

Lots of quality material today I guess.

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Yet another clear and forceful statement by RonPaul:

"our federal government has zero moral authority to legislate against violence."

(Happy Birthday LL! And thanks for posting these great articles.)

Thank you

Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones.

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Thanks for Posting Tom!

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...and Merry Christmas to you as well.... :)

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Merry Christmas

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Bump: Zero Hedge liked it also

Ron Paul: Government Security Is Just Another Kind Of Violence
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-24/ron-paul-government...

Thanks Steve

Merry Christmas to you.

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