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Apparently exercising my rights was rude and unwelcomed

So tonight I was pulled over for speeding, and the officer asked the classic question: "Do you know why I pulled you over?" I replied by saying nothing, exercising my right to remain silent. He then asked again, "Do you know why I pulled you over?" Once again I replied by saying nothing. He said, "Are you okay, sir?" I replied, "Don't I have the right to remain silent?" He replied, "You most certainly do, sir!" He then went back to his car and came back a few minutes later. The officer asked me to step outside my car, and I did just to be polite (I had the right to remain in my vehicle). The officer asked if I had been drinking, and I had not (only water). He said, "You know sometimes people like to be a little smart (rude). I was going to give you a warning at first since it's Christmas and all, but I changed by mind." So he gave me the ticket, and we went on our way.

So why was exercising my right to remain silent considered rude? Shouldn't he be proud?




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Did he have you sign the ticket?

That is considered an admission of guilt in some jurisdictions.

However, if the officer doesn't show in court the ticket gets dismissed around here. They count on voluntary compliance to produce a revenue stream.

How can a moving police car accurately clock a moving vehicle. What was his evidence?

I don't speed up to speed and I don't speed much either. I consistently get 5mpg better mileage than Driver2 on our car. About a 100 miles per fillup.

If i didn't have debts to pay, I would buy some silver with the savings.

Free includes debt-free!

Best line ever

Do you know why I pulled you over?
Depends on how long you have been following me.

Jim Carrey - liar,liar.

Great movie.

Or the scene

from Dumb and Dumber where the cop asks if they've been doin' a little boozin' and proceeds to drink from their open container...

mmmmm...good.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Phxarcher87's picture

THIS

IS OLD......

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" - Mark Twain

Kindness is more important

Is there a way that such a smart person as you could have figured out to "educate" this cop about your rights without coming off as a smart ass? I can. These guys do risk their lives and the war for this country comes down to their integrity in the end in many cases. Lead with love, compassion and sincerity. People will listen to you. Who wants to get schooled by some sophomoric brat who just learned a new trick he wants to try out.

Sometimes kindness is more important than being right. We can open the world for more honesty, respect, and integrity when we're not guarding ourselves all the time.

Weak post, I hope people can take a breath instead when they get pulled over and look a cop brother in the eyes. Damn! choose your battles dude!

The answer to the question

The answer to the question "Why I pulled you over?"

is

"Because you can?"

Gee, being rude is unwelcome?

Who'd a thunk?

All the crazy, shouting, gun-waving, jackbooted cops out there terrorizing the public, and you found one who was relaxed and professional in the face of your lawbreaking.

I'm just going to hope that encounters with insufferable douchebags don't turn cops against the public at large. I hope he's still willing to give a warning to the next person who speeds by, but doesn't resent cops, and would appreciate a warning.

I blew by a speed trap one time on my motorcycle, and turned around and came back. He gave me a written warning for 39 in a 30 (I'd been going almost 50), saying both that he was sorry but his speed trap was at the request of people from the neighborhood who had complained of speeding, and also saying that he would have pursued me and given me a ticket if I hadn't turned around.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Jmar

I'll tell you straight up bro, he's lying! He was definitely going to give you a ticket. He just said that at the end to make you feel like you were being rude to him or what not. Trust me, i kissed many cops asses and they still gave me tickets! Every time I don't, they say the same thing "we'll I wasn't going to do this.." BULLLLSHITT. F that cop.

"you're a funny dude, but who gives a fuck about that? I don't care about someone's wit, I care about the courage of their heart and the honesty of their mind."

Don't quit your day job for your acting career

Cops do have quotas. Just curious, what is kissing a cops ass sound like? Do you think he knows what you really think of him? Does this ass kissing work on your bitch? Don't talk to a cop like your bitch.

i said i did

I used to get caught up with weed and other crap all the time when I was a teen. I would always try to talk my way out of a bad situation by trying to be extra polite..that's the type of ass kissing I'm talking about. Anyway, it never works and if it does it's still not worth it I now realize.

"you're a funny dude, but who gives a fuck about that? I don't care about someone's wit, I care about the courage of their heart and the honesty of their mind."

it's psych warfare. they are

it's psych warfare. they are out to generate revenue. you didn't trespass or commit an act of violence on another person. you are guilty of nothing.

lawrence

true, but.....

A teacher is wiser to inspire rather than try to school.

No, he doesn't want you to

No, he doesn't want you to exercise your rights. He doesn't want you to know the law. He wants you to submit to his dominance, he wants you to obey his position of authority, he wants you to look at his uniform whilst he puts his hands on your car and leans in through the open window and have you shudder in fear of his presence.

Anything other than complete submissive compliance is considered unorthodox and therefore offensive to his position of authority.

Its his way of saying "Oh, you think you know the law you little smartass? Well I am the law and next time, speak when I ask a question and do as I say because this uniform and badge makes me superior to you".

... I think my rant went a tad over the edge.

If this is a true story

you were being a condescending mouth off. (while being silent which is quite a feat)

I don't know you so that's all I can say but based on what you just shared you could have at least been civil. Not every cop is trying to take your rights away or whatever your complaint is. Some of them are just people trying to feed their families.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

I agree

A lot of cops are on our side. No need to be a dick to them.

There is a video you should

There is a video you should watch if you haven't already, I don't have the link but it was titled something like "Why I will never speak to police officers". It was a lawyer giving a talk to law students, on why you should never talk to a police officer when questioned.

If an officer asks if you know why he pulls you over and you say "Uh.. Because I was speeding?", then you have already admitted that you committed a crime.

If he asks you if you liked a murder victim and you say "No he was a real jerk to me when we were younger", then that very same lawyer could use that against you in court as evidence you murdered him.

Well there you go

Thank you for making a logical case to me.
This I understand and makes sense.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

This is too funny not to share here.

Woman: Is there a problem, Officer?

Officer: Ma'am, you were speeding.

Woman: Oh, I see.

Officer: Can I see your license please?

Woman: I'd give it to you but I don't have one.

Officer: Don't have one?

Woman: Lost it 4 times for drunk driving.

Officer: I see...Can I see your vehicle registration papers please.

Woman: I can't do that.

Officer: Why not?

Woman: I stole this car.

Officer: Stole it?

Woman: Yes, and I killed and hacked up the owner.

Officer: You what?

Woman: His body parts are in plastic bags in the trunk if you want to see.

The Officer looks at the woman, slowly backs away to his car, and calls for back up. Within minutes 5 police cars circle the car. A senior officer slowly approaches the car, clasping his half drawn gun.

Officer 2: Ma'am, could you step out of your vehicle
please!

The woman steps out of her vehicle.

Woman: Is there a problem sir?

Officer 2: One of my officers told me that you have stolen this car and murdered the owner.

Woman: Murdered the owner?

Officer 2: Yes, could you please open the trunk of your car, please.

The woman opens the trunk, revealing nothing but an empty trunk.

Officer 2: Is this your car, ma'am?

Woman: Yes, here are the registration papers.

The first officer is stunned.

Officer 2: One of my officers claims that you do not have a driving license.

The woman digs into her handbag and pulls out a clutch purse and hands it to the officer. The officer snaps open the clutch purse and examines the license. He looks quite puzzled.

Officer 2: Thank you ma'am, one of my officers told me you didn't have a license, that you stole this car, and that you murdered and hacked up the owner.

Woman: Bet you the lying bastard told you I was speeding too.

If not us than who?

Probably the wrong thing

but the last time I was asked if I had been drinking I responded "not as far as you know." The cop had clearly never heard that one before.

That was in Australia at one of innumerable breathalyzer stops. No way to legally refuse, if I recall correctly.

Some of you aren't ready to be libertarians yet

Speeding is not a criminal act. Even the states and cities and counties recognize this. That is why you have to appear in civil or municipal court and not a criminal court. The state is suing you, nothing more. What makes this whole charade even worse is that, technically, the judge ruling in the case is usually also a resident of whatever jurisdiction the court is located in. That means the judge is a party to the lawsuit, how is that even a fair trial?

Citing speeding laws as being for the public good is another fallacy. The reality is that most people don't excessively speed. People tend to drive a rather safe speed given road conditions. Despite the fact that most speed traps occur in areas where 30,000+ cars travel that particular road daily, most people still drive slow through residential neighborhoods. The reason is not because of posted speed limits, it's because the roads are generally narrower, not striped, have cars on both sides, a higher probability of pedestrian traffic, etc. Put those same people on a road that has three lanes on each side going the same direction, with a median separating directions of travel, with a developed sidewalk, and asphalt in pretty good shape and you are likely to see speeds above posted by the majority of the drivers.

The other fallacy I see on here is how many people tell you that "speed kills". This is even misconstrued by governments. The NHTSA will tell you that speed was a factor in a majority of accidents. That statement does not equal "speeding was a factor". People going to slow for conditions causes an equal number of accidents. Slow drivers cause people to change lanes more often, an act that requires taking your eyes off the road and directing them to the mirrors and even removing a hand off the steering wheel to the turn indicator. The safest speed is not the posted speed. The safest speed is that speed at which 85% of the traffic on that section of road is traveling. If 85% of the drivers are going 55 in a posted 40 mph zone, then the safest speed is 55, not 40.

As far as the slippery slope argument that we would need to remove red lights and stop signs in a libertarian society, I don't buy that one bit. These devices are put in to aid in the flow of traffic. Most libertarians would agree that anything that leads to increases in efficiency are a good idea. Traffic lights were created by the private sector, not by government. That said, if you come to a red light and see that no one is coming from another direction, you should be free to proceed. However, you should also be aware that you will likely be the one the courts decide is at fault in an accident. I have run numerous red lights, mostly out in the middle of nowhere because some idiot who programmed the lights decided that a side street needs at least ten minutes of green light to clear all the cars out that aren't there.

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This is what is needed:

This is what is needed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDlIsM_B6nc

Remove all cross walks, lines, and lights. Perhaps, add a few round abouts. Speeds are naturally slower and drivers/people are safer. No one would dare to travel above 10-25 mph if there were people, bikes, etc. intermingled with cars unless their goal was to kill people.

Thanks

That was a very good reply imo.

donvino

Q: Do you know why i pulled you over?

A: well obviously you don't have a college degree.

answers

A: Because you haven't met your quota this month.

A: Because the city is strapped for cash.

A: Because the brave cops are all fielding 911 calls, leaving no one to watch the roads.

A: Because you smelled the donuts I have here on the passenger seat.

A: Because someone said walking is good exercise and you would never do it unless you pulled people over and had to walk to their car.

A: Because you like to help reinforce society's opinion that you cops don't really do us any favors and that if we all had guns we wouldn't need your sorry a$$es!

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You did fine

You can't expect the cop to not think you were "rude". Don't worry about that. If you want to stand up to these tax feeders, you can't worry about them. You can't resist them without them being offended in some way.

You have to realize what

You have to realize what things are.It is the kings road,your driving the kings car and you were detained by one of the kings men.There is a time to exercise that "right",this seems to be not one of them.However,if you happen to get a ticket again you could give them this scripture...

Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely, and be content with your wages. - Luke 3:14

13 No servant can serve two masters; for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and riches. - Luke 16

Q: Do you know why I pulled you over?

A: "Because you can?"

LOL!!

Love it!!

You don't remain silent when

You don't remain silent when they ask if you know why they pulled you over. You always say "No."

Especially in this case

Because apparently all he wanted to do was say merry christmas.