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Ahmadinejad's: "Wipe Israel off the Map" Quote Discussion

We all have heard of this familiar saying "Ahmadinejad has said he would wipe Israel off the map"

I have heard of many media talking heads repeating this whether in interviews, or "news" or something else.

Now I have heard of that this is a misquote and that it's a quote, the question is, where did the original quote come from?

No matter how much I searched, I couldn't find a video showing him saying that, or that it's out of context.

So I searched it up, and apparently the speech that led to the media outrage was recorded in 2005, according to New York Times.(http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/weekinreview/30iran.html?p...)

Who could believe that one day we could witness the collapse of the Eastern Empire? But we have seen its fall during our lives and it collapsed in such a way that we have to refer to libraries because no trace of it is left. Imam [Khomeini] said Saddam must go and he said he would grow weaker than anyone could imagine. Now you see the man who spoke with such arrogance ten years ago that one would have thought he was immortal, is being tried in his own country in handcuffs and shackles by those who he believed supported him and with whose backing he committed his crimes.

Our dear Imam said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime [Israel] has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world. But we must be aware of tricks.

So right there we can see that he did in fact refer to the "eastern empire" AKA the Soviet Union and Saddam. Both countries which he implies to have been immortal but collapsed, as in Saddam's Case, he thought Saddam during his reign would never be removed from the position.

And we can also see that he was in fact quoting Ayatollah Khomeini, not his own opinion that Israel should be attacked.

And from his later interviews, he has stated that he has been misinterpreted by the western media...

I have no idea whether the quote I cited IS the quote, but if you found other origins to this "Wipe Israel off the map" saying, please post it here. Or the transcript of his speech where it's translated that he said it would vanish from the pages of time.

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I too call for regime change

I too call for regime change in Israel. The irony is that the one nation most likely responsible for 9/11 (See War By Deception by Ryan Dawson), is Israel. And which regimes did we change? Iraq, Libya, and we are trying to overthrow the Syrian regime. Yeah, makes sense to me.

Stop already

This has been gone through a million times even Ron Paul knows it's bullshit and is a intentional propaganda mistranslation.

There isn't anything to discuss because the 2 links below end the discussion.

Ron Paul On Iran: "Wipe Israel Off The Map?"

Israel: “Wiped off The Map”. The Rumor of the Century, Fabricated by the US Media to Justify An All out War on Iran

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

What I wanted to do

Was to completely kill this issue, and find the bottoms of it.

I did see Ron Paul's comments, but I wasn't sure where he got the information from. What was I suppose to persuade others on this issue with? It certainly can't be just a quote from anyone, so I wanted to see the transcripts.

And I did find it. And it's clear from that initial speech and other interviews, Ahmadinejad did not call for war, or even use the word map...

Those are convincing information to dis-indoctrinate people, and now that I know it, the people around me would know it, I was just asking for input for further arguments.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

The article by Arash Norouzi

on globalresearch wraps it up. That is the only link people need to see.
I just threw in the Paul vid for effect. Sorry for yelling but I couldn't tell where you were going with this or if you were trolling.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

I could not agree more! The issue is dead!

Seriously the issue is dead, and anyone parroting that propaganda line, is an ignorant fool, just follow pollman's links!


This thread certainly led to some interesting results with actual citation. I heard of it on RepPress and Ron Paul, but I couldn't find the citations for either one of them, so this is valuable information -_-

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

Leave It To Antiwar.com To Write A Definite Piece On The Issue


"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Now this is very interesting

From the article, it would seem that the world of "map" was never used. Ahmadinejad didn't make many favorable comments on Israel's reigme, but it's pretty clear that he:

- did NOT call for war, but regime change

- Never even said that quote, which was from Khomeini, and didn't even say map

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

This is a good reading,