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I Think It's Official, The Sandy Hook Hoax Has Backfired

Are we all experiencing the, "shift in consciousness," as I type?

Epic FAIL for the production team, director, and the entire staff behind the creation of, "The Sandy Hook Massacre."

Three brilliant videos to check out with some egg nog after a long day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=ShgdN8...

"It wasn't intent, it was some magnificent thing."

WTF ? Did he really say that? IS THIS REAL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=wyJ0Nl...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GPKNL...!

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What I find MOST AMAZING is how SO MANY PEOPLE (sorry, I'm VERY excited) are really questioning the official story!

Not only the number of youtube responses, but the talk on the street...even mainstream am talk radio callers are starting to question what's going on?

And that's a good thing!

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Re that article's noting "slipshod" handling of a crime scene,

what I found odd was the nurse's testimony - saying that she and her secretary hid in a closet for almost four hours before someone "jiggled" the handle of the closet door where they were hiding - and even then, with no one announcing who they were at the door and no one asking if there was someone inside (after which, you'd think, if they got no reply, they'd force the door open). She said she got "brave" and eventually peeked out. What the heck kind of police/SWAT response do they have there in Connecticut such that it would take almost *four hours* to thoroughly check all the rooms - for survivors who'd managed to escape notice; for further victims whether dead or injured; or for a possible collaborator to the shooting, no less when initial police reports indicated the possibility of two or more shooters? All those people were massacred by audible gunfire and it never occurred to local, state, or federal authorities that someone might be hiding in a closet? Yeah, slipshod is right.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

No, he did not say that.

"It wasn't a tent" - talking about the make-shift morgue they worked in. Listen tot he full audio.
The people are odd, to be sure. But, focusing on them will only evoke sympathy for all those who buy the official story. We really need to focus on hard evidence.
Who was "proned out" on the west side of the school? Who was cuffed in the police car? Who was cuffed in the woods? Most of all, who owned the car that had the gun removed from the trunk?

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Most of the people

involved - teachers, parents, coroner, policemen - were given medications and possibly MJ. The side effect is mood swing and uncontrolable laugh that is hard to supress.

No wonder so many good fiscal conservative people shy RP movement even if they like RP himself.

Fake Crying?? No Murder Weapon.

No tears from any of the witnesses who did every imaginable crying manifestation, including using a finger to make it look like wiping tears, that weren't anywhere to be found. Robbie Parker self-hyperventilates before speaking to get himself into character.

Just a few of the very big problems with the “official story”:
1) Adam had only handguns - yet medical investigator said a rifle did all the killing
2) The assault weapon was actually found in the trunk of Christopher A. Rodia’s car
3) Police audios clearly show at least two more suspects, and a command to “End Adam’s life”
4) No photos, videos, of anything, despite the high quality surveillance system at the school
5) Constantly changing story. Guns, motive (mom didn’t teach there), killer (Ryan then Adam).
6) Medical investigator’s press conference was beyond bizarre. Said he hadn’t gotten to the second story yet to investigate. There is no second story. One of many absurd comments.
7) No parent ever saw their child or any evidence that their child had been killed.
8) The kids said it sounded like the janitor was dropping things. Some said they heard nothing. 100-150 rounds of gun shot inside a classroom in five minutes would be deafening.
9) Nurse said she looked into Adam's eyes when he came into the office and recognized that he was Nancy Lanza’s son. The Nurse said Nancy was a wonderful and loving kindergarten teacher at their school (Nancy was never a teacher, or a substitute, or a volunteer).
10) Man found hiding in the woods by the school (part of the school grounds). He was wearing the same combat attire as Adam. Handcuffed and placed in the police car.
11) To enter the school, an individual has to be recognized on a video screen and buzzed in because the school is locked down. Adam had combat attire, bullet proof vest, mask, and weapons, but got in??? He had his brother’s ID (hadn’t seen him in years) b/c why???
12) Nothing adds up. Every aspect of the event and “official story” has huge holes. Experts (gun shooting) say definitely not possible to kill that many people in minutes’ time. Adam was a scrawny autistic geek who was a vegan because he didn’t want to hurt animals. Nothing adds up. They drugged the kid with Scopolamine, look it up.

re: #11-documented entry procedure

he entered just before 9:30am.
(police arriving AFTER 9:30 am would have to 'break' in.)
excerpt:
http://www.securitysystemsnews.com/also-noted/sandy-hook-pri...

In the fall, Hocksprung sent a letter to parents outlining new security procedures..
The letter also stated that visitors arriving at the school after 9:30 a.m., when the front gates were locked, would have to ring a bell for entry ..

letter sent to parents here:
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/fairfield_cty/sandyhook-securit...

the "second shooter"

really needs more looking into, and if the school indeed had surveillance system, where are those videos?

You have some good questions

mixed in with the bad. "end the life of Adam" is debatable at best. To me it sounded like, "....at him," not Adam.

I think we should demand the same hard evidence from each other as we do from the media. For example, I would like to know where you got the information that visitors have to be buzzed in, and that the parents never saw their children's bodies? How credible is that source?

So far, the youTube "detective" videos I've seen about Sandy Hook are pathetic, not just in quality but in the twisted "logic" they use for their deductions.

All Info from Credible Sources

Parents of children that attend the school explained the system they have of "buzzing" in visitors. They couldn't understand how the killer got in. See one example here at 3:27 into the video (the whole short video is very worth watching) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwZgjVtKX70. The school is locked down, always, and has a sophisticated surveillance system. The voice on the police audio can be heard very well here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PTXGYm02L4 The entire police audio shows many other suspects at the scene. The gun found in another person's vehicle was described as the murder weapon. And, nobody has explained how Adam had only hand guns, yet the official report says a rifle was the only murder weapon.

Here's a few links that are good. http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20/sandy-hook-massacre-...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de3lmAD5kXo

There are many really astute video arguments and website blogs that argue very compelling evidence. There are a few quacky videos. Research some more. I will get back on the source of info that explains how parents were told that if they hadn't been reunited with their child then it was over, and no parent requested or was allowed to view their child one last time. Very sad. Thanks for your interest.

re: 'They couldn't understand how the killer got in'

easy: he entered just before 9:30am.
(note: police arriving AFTER 9:30 am would have to 'break' in.)
excerpt:
http://www.securitysystemsnews.com/also-noted/sandy-hook-pri...

In the fall, Hocksprung sent a letter to parents outlining new security procedures..
The letter also stated that visitors arriving at the school after 9:30 a.m., when the front gates were locked, would have to ring a bell for entry ..

the letter here:

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/fairfield_cty/sandyhook-securit...

Sandy Hook Security Policy
Updated: Friday, 14 Dec 2012, 12:06 PM EST
Published : Friday, 14 Dec 2012, 12:06 PM EST

(WTNH) -- This is the school security policy letter that went out to Sandy Hook Elementary school parents at the beginning of the 2012-2013 school year.

Dear Members of our Sandy Hook Family,

Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry. Visitors will still be required to report directly to the office and sign in. If our office staff does not recognize you, you will be required to show identification with a picture id. Please understand that with nearly 700 students and over 1000 parents representing 500 SHS families, most parents will be asked to show identification.

Doors will be locked at approximately 9:30 a.m. Any student arriving after that time must be walked into the building and signed in at the office. Before that time our regular drop-off procedures will be in place. I encourage all parents to have their children come to school and return home on the bus and to remain in school for the entire school day. The beginning and ending of our school day are also important instructional times and therefore we want all our students to reap the benefits of full participation in our program.

We need your help and cooperation for our system to work effectively. Our office staff is handling multiple tasks. Though they will work diligently to help you into the building as quickly as possible, there may be a short delay until someone can view you on the handset and allow you to come in electronically. There are times during the day when office personnel are on the telephone, addressing student concerns, or in the copy room; there are other times when only one person is in the front office. Please help our staff by identifying yourself and provide your child’s name. Keep in mind we will be following our district guidelines which may need revision once we test the system.

Please know your involvement continues to be critical to our school’s effectiveness and your child’s success. We continue to encourage and value your presence in our classrooms and are counting on your cooperation with the implementation of this safety initiative.

Sincerely,
Mrs. Hochsprung

Easy Because He Shot His Way In

Here's a well documented account of the multitudes of contradictions, including the grand entrance. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-...

"After Adam Lanza arriving one half hour after classes had commenced. Dressed in black, Lanza proceeds completely unnoticed through an oddly vacant parking lot with a military style rifle and shoots his way through double glass doors and a brand new yet apparently poorly engineered security system.
Further, initial press accounts suggest how no school personnel or students heard gunshots and no 911 calls are made until after Lanza begins firing inside the facility. “It was a lovely day,” Sandy Hook fourth grade teacher Theodore Varga said. And then, suddenly and unfathomably, gunshots rang out. “I can’t even remember how many,” Varga said.[5]
The recollection contrasts sharply with an updated version of Lanza’s arrival where at 9:30AM he walked up to the front entrance and fired at least a half dozen rounds into the glass doors. The thunderous sound of Lanza blowing an opening big enough to walk through the locked school door caused Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach to bolt from a nearby meeting room to investigate. He shot and killed them both as they ran toward him.
Breaching the school’s security system in such a way would have likely triggered some automatic alert of school personnel. Further, why would the school’s administrators run toward an armed man who has just noisily blasted his way into the building?
Two other staff members attending the meeting with Hocksprung and Scherlach sustained injuries “in the hail of bullets” but returned to the aforementioned meeting room and managed a call to 911.[6] This contrasted with earlier reports where the first 911 call claimed students “were trapped in a classroom with the adult shooter who had two guns.”[7] Recordings of the first police dispatch following the 911 call at 9:35:50 indicate that someone “thinks there’s someone shooting in the building.”[8] There is a clear distinction between potentially hearing shots somewhere in the building and being almost mortally caught in a 'hail of bullets.'"

Foul play or just bad journalism?

We all know the media sucks, so it's no marvel to me that the reporters kept saying Nancy Lanza worked at the school, repeating rumors that began God knows where, instead of acting on journalistic integrity and RESEARCHING first.

But what's that discrepancy got to do with the larger question being posed, that perhaps the whole thing was faked?

I appreciate the video of the woman talking about visitors being buzzed in. But if one accepts her testimony as legitimate, they are in fact acknowledging that she is not a VisionBox actor. To suspect that the people whose story is in line with the media's account are paid actors, while the people whose story challenges that account are genuine, shows a rather primitive bias towards whatever advances conspiracy theory. It also opens a new set of questions that aren't being addressed: how is this elaborate scheme between actors and real people being coordinated? How are the real people being suppressed by authorities?

The alternate theories being tossed around are a bigger mess of contradictions and problems than most people are acknowledging.

The Nurse Said Nancy Worked at the School

Do some simple research. It's not difficult to get the major holes in this story because so much is already posted in blogs and youtube.

Post nurse interview report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEs-XAJqfU

The alternate theories are a mess of contradictions because the "official story" is a mess of contradictions.

Pathetic video there, and not what you're claiming.

The REPORTER said the nurse said Nancy worked at the school.

Where's the video of the nurse saying that?

Reporter Just Finished Interviewing the Nurse

I stated it was a "post nurse interview report"

It would be quite newsworthy if a reporter completely fabricated all these detailed details (e.g. Nancy was a wonderful loving kindergarten teacher there, looked him in the eyes and he turned around and left). So, a reporter could be sued or fired for clearly stating she had just interviewed the nurse and this is what she said, when in fact it was not at all the truth. Part of the inconsistencies of all evidence and the reporting of such. It is what I was claiming. The "official story" was that the motive for the school shooting was due to Adam's mother working there. A reporter's account of that story after just interviewing the nurse is what creates the mainstream public's awareness, and prevents the truth, which is none of this makes any sense. Here's a later interview with the nurse who made the 911 call stating she "thought" there was some shooting, even after Adam shot the entrance door/window out, and shot and killed the principal, and another faculty member. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6rAMH06yQU
Here's more of the documented explanation of my comments. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-...

is there a link to this

USA today article? It says 9 news at the bottom of the screen, is this a local report that USA posted? Very odd, but could it be that some reporter was making up a story to get attention? We should be finding out more about this reporter

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i suppose you could say bad journalism

when they interviewed the dead principal
and she gave her testimony about adam breaking
into the school (facial recognition at its finest,seeing
he was wearing a face mask)
i suppose it is bad journalism when reported
the kids were walked past the staging area(fire station)
and onto a strangers lawn
i suppose its also bad journalism when the 9-11 recordings
speak of him and her in the same breath as the 9-11 call
but they could also be unintended cracks
i can see how a picture of blocked in ambulances can cause
confusion
or even the one shooter theory,even after the police video
showed more than one
or is could be explained you just haven't looked or care to
nurses and psychologists with no credentials
the new improved security measures at the school,that didn't work
nary a break in picture as evidence,but hey!! aurora had cams too,and they didn't work either

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

"when they interviewed the dead principal"?

do you have any links to this?

deacon's picture

yes,here it is

http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-14__10-59-12/Gunman+Opens...

and one of the many reasons rehashing it over and over for ones
who will not look is irritating
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

oh, I was thinking it was a video? but yeah,

I'd say that's pretty bad journalism!
Could this be a case where the author was so exicted to get the story out he thought he was interviewing the priciple but was actually someone else?

deacon's picture

can't answer that

i wasn't there,but it is strange though
i suppose they could have gotten her name from another person,
from a piece of paper,as it is a weird name to spell...
not an everyday name
and it is yet another inconsistency to this whole mess
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

You could say it's just inadequate schooling to blame

for your inability to compose a readable argument.

Your apparent ignorance about the rules of punctuation and capitalization suggest a larger ignorance about responsibly categorizing data according to its believability.

For example, what do you mean by "nurses with no credentials"?

Which nurses? Who has verified that these nurses have no credentials? You are alluding to theories postulated by DP posters as solidly confirmed fact, AND exaggerating (there is only one nurse), AND expecting me to take you more seriously than the bungled-up MSM?

And can't you see how foolish that would be? You bear none of the marks of expertise, and anyone who mistakes you for an expert is operating from dream land.

deacon's picture

so,i don't use a period..........

all yo have done so far is show your own ignorance
you are right,but just a little bit,1 psychologist
and 1 practicing DR so far,have no credentials!!!!!
i really have never taken you serious,and it doesn't matter how you
punctuate nor type.all you have done is belittle everyone
here about this,and you poohoo about them not having
a piece of paper making them official,i know what and who you are
and i could care less what you type or say
2 pieces of evidence that are damning and you attack
others for the way they type,and not a piece of paper
making it all official,let alone the fact most here have done
more than the ones with their idiotic titles
anal much??? i think so
you haven't disputed anything here,and your response back to me is
the proof
if for one am done with you,die in your ignorance
postulate that

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

You know what and who I am?

???

What kind of freak talks like this.

deacon's picture

ummm

you didn't punctuate properly.
there is a question mark after your question.
like this,"what kind of freak talks like this?"'
and yes,it's not hard to figure people out
everything so far has been laid out,post after post
and all you have done so far to me,is attack my writing style
or lack there of,not once did you acknowledge anything of truth
just my style i use to type
comment after comment i have made drawing comparisons between
aurora,9-11 and sandy hook so far you have left untouched
and how these actual events have been played before seemed to fell on deaf ears
what you sought out was punctuation

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

You started griping at me

for asking questions.

I noticed that your rant contained both factual errors and bad English. Often, the two go together.

No point continuing a conversation with someone who can't stay on topic or write, but who accuses me of things I never did and creepily warns me that he or she knows who I am, when obviously I prefer to have a pseudonym.

I agree some of the

I agree some of the accusations are extreme, and I really disagree with people who are asserting anything. But I do feel the official story is thin at best, and I don't think we should let this go by like 9/11 without doing our due diligence. It's not fair to bash people just for asking questions, though there's a fine line between that and making accusations.

Freedom in our lifetime! - fiol.us

The videos...

may not be conclusive, but even if they do get anyone to think, I would say that's a step in the right direction!
There are too many people willing to accept the 'Official' story! Didn't we learn anything from 9/11? Benghazi? Gulf of Tonkin? Northwoods?
Time to do your own thinking!
Conspiracy theory is not a bad word!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

Everything this administration does is staged like an act.

#1 Remember Clinton, Obama and Biden in the war room photo shoot watching the supposed take-down of Osama by a super secret seal team 6 that supposedly all died weeks later in a not so super secret operation but one that was supposed to be more routine designed as an excuse for all to conveniently die in a single helicopter crash. The body of Osama, buried at sea faster than superman can change into his cape.

#2 Fast & Furious, a staged top-secret gun-running operation started by Bush and turned up by Obama that gave us BATFE's Fast & Furious now fully documented as a totally contrived scheme to justify shutting down American gun shops and so to outlaw guns bought by average consumers in America. The only thing this operation proved is that the BATFE is way more dangerous to border patrol agents and the freedoms of Americans than your average assault rifle. And we know this in spite of the administration's refusal to testify but based on their own documents while a Republican controlled House failed to do its own decent investigation for fear of implicating Bush also in starting the gun-grabber false-flag operation. They were all in on it, both Republicans and Democrats.

#3 Fake tears. Give me a break.

If you don't own a gun go buy 10; shotguns, pistols and rifles and lots of ammo too.

Get ready the Red Coats are coming, but this time they are wearing blue suits.

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they are conditioning us to accept LYING MEDIA as a court room

a multiple murder trial in between pizza commercials and car commercials????

F*CK the LAME STREAM MEDIA!
NONE OF US SAW ANYTHING.
INNOCENT BEFORE PROVEN GUILTY.

they are conditioning us to accept the LYING MEDIA as
investigators, prosecutors, the defence, witnesses, evidence, etc,...

the videos here show nothing

of substance...the coroner is strange, no doubt, but I'd imagine anyone with the profession of looking at dead bodies all day long would be more than eccentric. Until any substantial evidence is provided showing this shooting to be manufactured I am taking it at face value. Whether the kid was on some sort of psychotropics, or if he was guided in some way to murder is another angle altogether and should be looked at. But to claim that the official story is a hoax is complete NONSENSE. Can't believe this is voted up. Let's vote this down and out of site already.