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Watch The USS John C. Stennis (UPDATE)

PERFECT SETUP FOR A FALSE FLAG:

1. It's headed to the Strait of Hormuz/Persian Gulf.
2. There is an Iranian War Games planned to coincide with the arrival of the USS Stennis (Only Infowars is carrying this article: http://www.infowars.com/iran-launches-week-long-straits-of-h...)
3. The USS John C. Stennis has been destroyed/Crippled/ or Sank in SEVERAL Movies and Video Games:
(A) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, the USS John C. Stennis is seen suffering catastrophic impact damage and then sinking (the ship's pennant number being clearly visible on the island in the scene).
(B) The Stennis was attacked on screen, in 2002's The Sum of all Fears she is crippled by Russian bombers equipped with anti-ship missiles.
(C) In the 2011 game Homefront, the carrier is seen half sunk just outside of Modesto, California.
(D) In the Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honor, the carrier is crippled by a Japanese Torpedo, though it is repaired.
4. Its sinking would kill 3,000+ Sailors. A higher death-toll than 9/11 or 11 years in Afghanistan
5. Attack while its still dark (whose to say what happened?) Everyone was asleep/Night-vision cameras were down/No one was at their post/right at shift change/Crew was distracted from previous night/New Year's Eve.
6. America wakes up to visceral morning TV imagery of the USS Eisenhower's smoking ruin slipping below the water. What if it was the morning the new Congress gets sworn in?
7. Its sinking will cause instant war-drums & sweeping nationalism: "REMEMBER THE Stennis!"
8. Opportunity for the elimination of a LOT of loose-end Military Officers/contractors who could be could be invited onboard right before the sinking (for New Years?)
9. Opportunity for the vaulting of a Raymond Shaw/Sgt. Brody-type for heroism/groomed for office.
10. That whole region/Mossad are just waiting for a spark to light the inferno.
11. Wreckage/combat operations would seal off the Straight of Hormuz.

USS John C. Stennis on Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_C._Stennis_(CVN-74)



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Ehh, I'll believe it when I see it.

I'm sorry, I just don't buy it, for a lot of reasons - especially the reasons delineated in the original post. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about, at all. I agree that the MIC is angling toward war with Iran, but I do not believe for one second they're about to pull a Gulf of Tonkin-style incident that would involve crippling a carrier battle group. The loss in blood and treasure would be enough to give even the most cynical hegemon pause. Carriers do not grow on trees, and those very vessels are a lynchpin in their strategy of global control. Plus, I've seen several of these stories posted on the DP in the past year or so. Just about every time a new battle group enters the Persian Gulf, in fact.

1. It's headed to the Strait of Hormuz/Persian Gulf.

Just like almost every USN carrier on WestPac since at least the 1970's. Nothing shocking there.

2. There is an Iranian War Games planned to coincide with the arrival of the USS Stennis

Was the wargame planned to coincide with CVN-74's arrival, or was the arrival planned to coincide with the wargame? The Navy has shown in the past it is deadly serious about keeping the Strait of Hormuz open to shipping at all times. Look up Operation Praying Mantis for an example of how seriously the Navy takes this sort of thing. It doesn't have to be some sort of silly false flag operation. It could just be the USN blowing the Iranian navy out of the water again. That's assuming such a thing is in the offing. I sincerely doubt it is, given the geopolitical consequences.

3. The USS John C. Stennis has been destroyed/Crippled/ or Sank in SEVERAL Movies and Video Games:

I saw a movie once where a giant ape climbed the Empire State Building and fought US air assets. I saw another one where hostile aliens blew up the White House and the President personally led the counterattack in an F/A-18. I don't think either of those will happen, either.

4. Its sinking would kill 3,000+ Sailors. A higher death-toll than 9/11 or 11 years in Afghanistan

That is a very, very modest estimate. Carriers don't travel alone. They have an entire armada of cruisers, destroyers, attack submarines and frigates as a screen against aircraft, missiles and small boats. A hostile force would need to penetrate that very formidable aegis in order to so much as scratch the haze gray paint on the Stennis. Should that ship be sunk, there would be many other ships sunk at the same time. A more accurate estimate of casualties would reach into the tens of thousands.

5. Attack while its still dark (whose to say what happened?) Everyone was asleep/Night-vision cameras were down/No one was at their post/right at shift change/Crew was distracted from previous night/New Year's Eve.

Honestly, the original poster doesn't know anything about how ships at sea operate. Watch a movie or something, seriously. Having served in the US Navy, I can tell you that every single one of the above suppositions is complete balderdash. When a warship is at sea, a fair portion of the ship's company is awake at any one point in time. There is also something called radar - it's been around since before World War II. It pretty much allows you to see in the dark through the use of radio waves. There are eyes on the radar scopes 24/7 while underway. Also, unlike landlubbers, sailors underway wouldn't be celebrating New Years Eve or be distracted in any other way, especially in a potentially hostile area like the Arabian Gulf.

6. America wakes up to visceral morning TV imagery of the USS Eisenhower's smoking ruin slipping below the water. What if it was the morning the new Congress gets sworn in?

If an American carrier was sunk, it would be war, yes. I for one do not believe that anyone within the MIC is suicidal enough to sacrifice something so dear to start a war. A destroyer or a cruiser isolated from a large fleet? Perhaps. Not an aircraft carrier. That removes the immediate return-fire that the American public would demand. This isn't 1941. Our populace isn't willing to wait a year or two to hit back.

7. Its sinking will cause instant war-drums & sweeping nationalism: "REMEMBER THE Stennis!"

Well, yeah. And who could blame anyone for feeling that way? Thousands of Americans dead, and one of the prides of our fleet at the bottom of the sea? Any right-thinking (albeit ill-informed) person would demand retribution. Freedom of the seas has been one of the bedrock principles of our republic since its earliest days. We have fought through diplomatic and naval means throughout our history to keep the trade lanes open and neutral. That's just plain good business.

8. Opportunity for the elimination of a LOT of loose-end Military Officers/contractors who could be could be invited onboard right before the sinking (for New Years?)

Yeah, that's just not the way things work. There aren't New Year's parties aboard ships at sea. There might be a note in the ship's log that a new year has occurred, and the officer of the deck may wax a bit poetic with the entry, but that's pretty much all that will occur. If a sailor isn't on watch, odds are he's in his rack fast asleep.

9. Opportunity for the vaulting of a Raymond Shaw/Sgt. Brody-type for heroism/groomed for office.

That's a real reach.

10. That whole region/Mossad are just waiting for a spark to light the inferno.

That whole region relies on ships being able to pass through the Strait of Hormuz in order to make money, and the Israelis, for all their bluster, want nothing less than to inflame the burgeoning Islamist movement that surrounds them. It doesn't make sense.

11. Wreckage/combat operations would seal off the Straight of Hormuz.

The Strait of Hormuz is not the drain in your bathtub. It is 21 miles wide at its narrowest. The widest supertanker in the world could turn doughnuts in the Strait while recovery operations were going on and not come within spitting distance of any other ship. The only way to close the Strait is to mine it. Should someone do that, there are assets in the area which are equipped to deal with that contingency without much trouble.

Honestly, this whole proposition wouldn't make a good B-movie. Anyone who knows how the Navy works and especially how US Naval operations in that part of the world works will recognize this as bad, uninformed fiction. I would advocate that people take things on infowars.com with a gigantic grain of salt. Read what they say and then do your own research. A lot of it is a nugget of truth surrounded by a gigantic mass of tinfoil-shrouded nonsense. It is good to be vigilant against the military-industrial complex. It is bad to listen to hucksters and snake oil salesman as a consequence.

Dude, the MIC will do ANYTHING.

I for one do not believe that anyone within the MIC is suicidal enough to sacrifice something so dear to start a war.
I saw them destroy 3,000 families and the the entire World Trade Center for money and power, what the hell value is a damn boat full of volunteers to these people?

I saw a movie once where a giant ape climbed the Empire State Building and fought US air assets. I saw another one where hostile aliens blew up the White House and the President personally led the counterattack in an F/A-18. I don't think either of those will happen, either.
(Yeah an I saw a TV show in Spring 2001 were The government flew a plane into the World Trade Center to start a war and boost arms sales: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3WW6eoLcLI )

What else do you got?

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

smh

Yeah, you're out of your God-blessed mind. Get help.

Yeah the NAVY is a real Swiss Watch

And NOTHING will ever happen to such a valuable ship: Because then we would pay the $4Billion to replace it? No. Billions in cash is never an incentive to the Military Industrial Complex.

Gulf of Tonkin (1. Their radar calibrations were F-ing pinpoint there Sponge AND 2. No one would ever use an attack on a ship to push a political purpose)

USS Liberty (Do I even need to describe this?)

Honestly, the original poster doesn't know anything about how ships at sea operate. Watch a movie or something, seriously. Having served in the US Navy, I can tell you that every single one of the above suppositions is complete balderdash. When a warship is at sea, a fair portion of the ship's company is awake at any one point in time. There is also something called radar
(USS Cole, Again AMAZING radar work and The Crew's award wining alertness to stealth threats in the Port of GD Aden, which every sailor knows is like rolling up into St. Kitts)

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

And NOTHING will ever happen

And NOTHING will ever happen to such a valuable ship

Gulf of Tonkin (No one would ever use an attack on a ship to push a political purpose)
USS Liberty (yeah Sponge, The Navy would NEVER lie about an attack on a ship)

If you read what I wrote, I said the MIC wouldn't sacrifice a Carrier and its battle group. I also made the distinction that a minor ship may indeed be sacrificed in such a way. The USS Liberty was not a carrier, or even a frigate. It was an intelligence ship of little value. That's assuming, of course, that the United States government allowed it to be attacked by the Israelis during the Six Day War. I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove here, since we didn't intervene against the Israelis. Try to keep up, and not mix your conspiracies. They don't all fit together, you know.

(USS Cole, 2000 The Crew's alertness and radar calibrations were F-ing pinpoint there Sponge)

Actually, you're comparing apples and oranges. The procedures of a ship when it is at sea and when it is entering port are completely different, especially when entering a foreign port. I can speak with some authority on this having served in the Navy before the Cole bombing. I actually trained several members of that particular crew in damage control. I'm given to understand some of them didn't make it home. I can only assume that they died doing their duty in keeping with the best traditions of our Naval service. Here's where we screwed up with the Cole: the ship pulled into port without men on the guns, which was the normal procedure at the time. We didn't want to offend our Yemeni hosts. That won't happen again. It had nothing to do with the performance of the crew - in fact that crew performed above and beyond the call of duty on that fateful day. Please do not sully the memory of some good, honest, down-to-earth folks who died through no fault of their own by including them in your insane conspiracies.

(Yeah an I saw a TV show were The government flew a plane into the World Trade Center to boost arms sales: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3WW6eoLcLI )

Neither here nor there. A thousand monkeys hammering on a thousand typewriters will eventually produce MacBeth, if you give them enough time. That is, unless you are implying that Chris Carter and the rest of the X-Files/Lone Gunmen team had advance knowledge of 9/11. In that case, they are awful people for not alerting us. In any other case, you're just outing yourself as a batshit-insane 9/11 truther (of which there are many here, and they are all as batshit-insane as you are). One of the hazards of reading the DP, sometimes you get to read posts from people who are two bricks shy of a load.

On every point you've made. I

On every point you've made. I REALLY hope your right.

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

USS Stennis has been destroyed in SEVERAL films

The USS John C. Stennis has been destroyed/Crippled/ or Sank in SEVERAL Movies and Video Games:
(A) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, the USS John C. Stennis is seen suffering catastrophic impact damage and then sinking (the ship's pennant number being clearly visible on the island in the scene).
(B) The Stennis was attacked on screen, in 2002's The Sum of all Fears she is crippled by Russian bombers equipped with anti-ship missiles.
(C) In the 2011 game Homefront, the carrier is seen half sunk just outside of Modesto, California.
(D) In the Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honor, the carrier is crippled by a Japanese Torpedo, though it is repaired.

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

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i had a similar thought

but it involved the uss enterprise
in the same straits
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

False Flags must combat pre-knowledge.

Nobody was looking on 9/11 when those responsible pulled off WTC dustification (Dr. Judy Woods' "Where did the Towers go?"). But, today there is the internet, sources like this blog, various LENR, E-cat and free energy methods spreading worldwide. It's a lot different now, people are more alert. The bankers are not so protected, and the high frustration level of the general public is plain. The attempts to limit constitutional rights are meeting determined repulsion. Add also the changing of the ages, era of knowledge usurping the less knowledgeable past. The attempted lowering of US citizens' education in public schools notwithstanding, Americans are gaining insight to reality through various outlets, less the 'main stream media.' All that is not to say controlling forces will stop what they are doing. No way, it's just going to get harder and harder for them. Knowledge is power.

Just like the Twin Towers,

Just like the Twin Towers, never let obsolescence go to waste ... a similar scenario sounds tragically plausible.

Something will be done to get WWIII started...

I think the bankers and the elite of all the countries in the middle east (with China and Russia surly in the loop) are still just negotiating how they want to start the war, how long they want it to last and what infrastructure is to be blown up in each country. Then finally they still need to agree on how they want to end the planned war. My research indicates that the rulers of nation states don't care about their serfs AT ALL and they will ALL send their brainwashed nation loving soldiers off to die in the coming planned war so TPTB can finalize a new global financial system that will keep us enslaved forever.

The more useless eaters that are killed in WWIII the happier the "elite" will be.

During and/or after WWIII, the killing and violence will come to Amerika and resisters of the new global system will be imprisoned or killed. I don't think Amerikans will be completely disarmed but I think ammo will become nearly impossible to afford and ammo manufacturers will be making only enough for the government. I sense the billions of rounds of ammo purchases by all the various agencies of the government over the past couple years will continue for another year or so and then ammo will all but disappear for public purchase.

The State now has in place so many armoured personnel carriers ready to surround any and all people who try to fight back against the tryrants who have taken over America, I'm not sure how it will all play out but it doesn't look good for freedom. Eventually we will ALL run out of ammo. All the State has to do is wait. They will also be killing from above with drones.

Sad situation but I don't see anyway Obama doesn't put the collectivist agenda on fast forward. Our only hope is that the armed forces of all nations wake up in mass and stop killing each other for the money and pleasure of their slave masters.

But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace. ~ Thomas Paine

Sobering. Check this out:

http://www.dailypaul.com/238151/irvin-baxter-new-world-order

As an endgame even beyond that.

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

Not a fan of the priest class, Willl

Organized religion is a HUGE contributor to the illusions that so many people suffer from. The clash of civilizations and the whole muslim v christian orchstrated meme...along with "revelations" in the bible (written by man, to control men) is a creation of the political class and the propaganda/priest class. Its a self fullfilling prophecy that does NOT need to be filled.

Nor me.

And nowhere in this lecture is it praised. I would probably agree with you as well about 'organised' religion implying as that does some form of coercion or political control, which religious faith has no business being involved with. Of course your opinions about the import of the Bible and what it tells us are coming from your own perspective, which I disagree with. The words of the Bible and the spirit of its message however are separate from any 'priest class' you would like to paint them with. I could remind you for instance that during the reformation many thousands of vernacular Bibles were burned, people massacred and wars fought by that very same priest class you speak of, to prevent ordinary people from reading the Bible for themselves, and forming their own opinion of it.

Would you not agree, regardless of the Biblical foundation of Pastor Baxter's analysis, that his insights into Roosevelt's plans and the formation of the UN are relevant to this discussion of war and Liberty in the world today? Or didn't you get that far.

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

Nice reply Willl

I see where you are coming from. The insights into war plans and the UN were worthly of conversation.

Navy Seal commits sucide??

http://rt.com/usa/news/navy-commander-suicide-us-758/
Could this have something to do with it?

Consider incentives. No one

Consider incentives. No one on the Eisenhower wants to die. They have an incentive not to be sunk. So the impetus must come from outside the craft. Go on...

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Tell that to the Painters...

who put up fresh coats of "paint" in WTC 7 in summer 2001.

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

in fairness, putting fresh

in fairness, putting fresh coats of "paint" then going home for the day is a far cry from keeping the ship, that you LIVE on, from sinking/severe damage. It's not even the same discussion. There are people in the Navy that- GASP -value their lives and the lives of their shipmates. Not disputing the false flag potential for ANY ship in that region, but you're comparing apples to shoelaces.

That whole ship could be "painted"

Crew quarters
Hangar bay
Exit ladders
!The room where they keep all the security tapes and computers!

There are hundreds of contractors overhauling a ship before its redeployed. That whole ship could have been "painted" months in advance. I'm not saying this will happen. I'm just saying WTC 7 happened and now we have a carrier headed to the most dangerous part of the world at a time when Israel's wound up tight and Obama desperately needs the conversation on the economy to go away.

Who would talk about fiscal cliffs with 3,000 flag draped coffins headed to Dover AFB?

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

WHAT?? The USS Eisenhower

WHAT?? The USS Eisenhower returned to Norfolk December 19, 2012. Dialed-In sounds more like Disconnected.

Correction noted/USS Stennis

Seems the info I had on IKE was out of date.
HOWEVER, The USS John C. Stennis IS on its way and will be in the Straight of Hormuz during an Iranian War Games.
http://www.infowars.com/iran-launches-week-long-straits-of-h...

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

Picture this

picture: http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/1...

With all due respect, I will no longer be a voting prostitute for Constitution rejecting harlots.

Picture this as the morning lead on the TODAY SHOW

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FJIwg2jbUP4/RgU47BXQZUI/AAAAAAAAAG...

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

http://www.dailypaul.com/2672

http://www.dailypaul.com/267218/do-conspiracy-theorists-hurt...

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

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Killing four birds with one false attack on USS Eisenhower etc?

* hysterical entry into neocon's Iran war
* more business for MIC
* distraction from fiscal cliff pain
* giving "last hurrah" opportunity to an old aircraft carrier before incinerating it

Wow, Obm used New Year's Day to sign in the infamous NDAA last year. He likes scheming on "holidays". Maybe he'll do it again. We'll see.

not sure what to think--

but bumping--

hoping the horror will end, somehow--

tired of hearing all the rumors/tired of the warmongering--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

1/1/2013: Wag The Dog

Suddenly, Economy is no longer in the national debate right when WWIII starts:
1. Day of the Fiscal Cliff
2. Obama Care Taxes come into effect

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

Watch the Dog

Something is coming...

The Diamond Dog is a real cool cat. | Reporting on the world from an altitude of 420.

Imagine the Forrestal with a million gallons of rushing seawater

You have any idea the devastation is someone sabotaged the ships Liquid O2 container.

(Would cause an explosion so hot and intense the ship and crew would melt before sinking)

All the while the crew is asleep/trapped below.

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden