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Randall may not equal Ronald but...

Every person is an individual that is responsible for his or her own actions. The Pauls are no different. Rand Paul is not Ron Paul, and he should not be expected to mirror his father.

Many times and rather often, I have heard that most politicians are well-intentioned. This may or may not be the case for many of them, but I do believe that Rand Paul is well-intentioned, although I have openly criticized him in the past because I think he panders more than is necessary to stay in the graces of the GOP establishment and risks being labeled as a follower of men rather than a leader of them because of it.

As well, I believe Rand has been weak on foreign policy (probably as a tactic to avoid being pigeon-holed like Ron was by the neo-con propaganda wing of the media). Certainly in rhetoric and in strategy, Rand is not equivalent to Ron, but time will tell if his way will be more effective.

One thing is for sure, Rand is no longer walking in his father's shadow which can neither be labeled as good nor as bad. Rand is his own man.

All criticism aside, someone tell me who would be a better and more viable candidate to represent the agenda of the Liberty Movement for POTUS in 2016? I highly doubt that even if a more acceptable candidate became available that that candidate would be as viable for the simple reason of name recognition.

If given the option, I will likely vote for Rand Paul in 2016.

No one person will be the savior of Our nation. It will take effort from all of us. If we can agree on nothing else, we can probably agree that Rand Paul would at least be a step in the right direction.

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It is an addiction

It's true what you say about MSM being an addiction. I'm addicted to DP, have been for years, and for all the reasons people are addicted to MSM, news, entertainment, views...

I've never owned a TV. Matter of fact, the only radios I've ever owned came with my vehichles, and I didn't drive until I was 30 and absolutely had to. If I want to ruin my day, I get in the car.

I think why I like DP better than MSm is I feel I have some control beside the off button. ;))

i'd think a superior court judge

would be a heavily vetted individual.

What would lead you to that conclusion?

Just curious really.

common sense

wise geek says:

Despite the fact that there are no formal requirements for a nominee to become a Supreme Court justice, the vetting process is very intense, both before and after a presidential nomination. The president's staff will investigate potential nominees as thoroughly as possible in an attempt to uncover and evaluate any potentially damaging information, whether from the candidate's professional career or personal life. The president also will personally interview candidates. Once nominated, the nominee is required to complete an exhaustive questionnaire by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, which will hold hearings on the nomination before referring it to the full Senate for the ratification vote.

Some facts

In Pierce County Washington there is a sitting superior court judge with an outstanding felony arrest warrant out for him. His name is Frank Cuthbertson. Here is a link to the crime that got him convicted.

http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/RedTide.htm

Here is a link to show he is a superior court judge:

http://www.courts.wa.gov/court_dir/orgs/286.html

and another:

http://patriotaction.net/group/washingtonstatepatriots/forum...

So being a superior court judge is no guarantee that you are not a convicted felon and a fugitive from justice.

Another Pierce County superior court judge got caught several years ago after he placed a murder contract out on one of his former gay lovers. Actually, the norm here in Washington State is for the Democrat governor to appoint people to the various superior courts who have criminal minds. That is why Washington State is know as "The child rape state" since no judge is willing to do anything to stop the ongoing problem of children being raped. Check out our present Governor, Christine Gregoire. She as state AG went to great lengths to cover for the rapists at the OK Boy's Ranch. Check it out:

http://lbloom.net/okgregoire.html

Reporter Randy Shaw did an expose years ago and I could only find part one on the internet. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvmOrLFkH24

With that being said, I think that Judge Napolitano would be a great nominee for POTUS.

See, that's what my common sense told me

Appointed judges are actually almost always corrupt in one way or another. So to think one is "well-vetted" is pretty presumptuous and is probably what gets us into trouble; assuming someone else has done the work.

that rings true &

i stand corrected.

still i love the judge and he come across to me as an honest liberty spokesman.

He wasn't a Supreme Court

He wasn't a Supreme Court judge.

correct

note to self: have at least one coffee before posting.

Makes sense to me

Vetting not only puts people in office, but keeps them out.

Great answer...

I wonder if the Judge has given it any consideration.

Robert Wenzel on Rand Paul

Robert Wenzel on Rand Paul:

Not good enough. But then again, anyone short of Murray Rothbard wouldn't be good enough for Wenzel, so take it with a grain of salt. He's what I'd call one of those 'bitter libertarians.'

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

not bitter

just suspicious of anyone that wants the One Ring, as am I

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Rand is a neocon.

Don't be fooled.

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sorry.
I had to uncollapse the ignorance- to down vote your comment.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

Rand Who? favours the things that neocons want.

Rand Who:?
- Supported Mitt Romney
- Supports US secret prisons
- Supports the NDAA
- Supports the bloated "defense" budget

Which of those things are YOU in favour of?

If you go along to get along, you are no better than the Pack.

At what time did Ron Paul act like that?

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How many bills has Ron passed?

How many national elections has Ron won? Ron got 10%, Rand needs 51% and he needs the GOP to do that.

We're taking this thing over but we're the guests and we must show respect to gain influence.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

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Really?

Please go away. Neocon's don't hold filibusters to fight indefinite detention.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Just remember

clean never rubs off on dirty, dirty always rubs off on clean.

I also believe Rand was elected in spite of the GOP, just ask Trey.

Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio

Idk but I agree with him! He

Idk but I agree with him! He voted for Iran sanctions man! His father taught me that's inciting war! Isn't it? So tell me how is Rand Paul not a Neo-Con? I didn't know we had the option to not follow the constitution.

juan maldonado

Who isn't a neo-con in the

Who isn't a neo-con in the Daily Paul book? Robert Taft voted for the Marshall Plan and military aid to Israel, 20 years before genuine neoconservatives joined the Republican Party. I advise you to actually find out what neoconservative means, because your definition of it suggests everyone from Barry Goldwater to Pat Buchanan, everyone except Ron Paul himself, was a 'neocon'.

Support Rand, Amash & other liberty candidates? Check out: http://www.LibertyConservatives.com/

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That vote passed 98-0

What would it have mattered? Rand is trying not to be Dr. No, being Dr. No is why Ron Paul has only passed one bill in his career. It's okay for Rand to play politics. It would be stupid for Rand to try the same course of his father because Rand actually wan't to get something done in Congress.

He knows what he's doing, he is not a neo-con. Neo-cons don't risk their careers speaking about liberty and freedom. No good deed goes unpunished and no bad deed unrewarded. The reward of trust in the GOP was well worth his meaningless vote on Iran sanctions.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Do you hear yourself? You

Do you hear yourself? You sound like a neocon! We're suppose to follow the constitution, I don't understand this! You don't think that him voting against it wouldn't have made a difference? It should of been 97-1.... Imagine that!

juan maldonado

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You ever heard the saying "pick your battles"?

If I can't trust Rand Paul then I can't trust you or anyone else and I might as well wear a tinfoil hat. Rand Paul = good. Seriously, the man risks his shot at the Presidency every time he disobeys GOP leadership and he does it often. I trust the man to do what is right. 97-1 would have just gotten him in trouble with leadership and wouldn't have done a thing to advance the cause of liberty. He has to please GOP leadership, it's necessary to help all of us. Talk shiz about Clintion, Pelosi, Feinstein, Reid, Boehner, Priebus...etc. There are a heck of a lot of people that would be better served by your hate info than Rand Paul.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

You obviously can't hear

You obviously can't hear yourself! You don't care about the constitution like do man! You should never disobey that beautiful document! Goodbye my friend.

juan maldonado

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Come on man

Don't say $hit like "you don't care about the constitution" when you won't even capitalize "The Constitution".

Tell me how in the hell it could have possibly helped Rand to vote against Iran Sanctions. If you haven't noticed the GOP isn't treating liberty guys so good right now. The GOP can pump millions of dollars into destroying someones political career. Where do you think the "racist Ron Paul" articles came from? $20 bucks says it wasn't the Democrats.

Please spend your time bashing people who really need bashing and leave the great senator from Kentucky alone. I would be proud to have Rand as my senator.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

So if anybody else does it,

So if anybody else does it, there neocons! But if Rand does it he's amazing? I don't understand. How far do you go with it? So you believe in your heart, that sometimes you have to disobey the Constitution, for the better good?

juan maldonado

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I don't think Rand has a choice

Remember when Ron Paul stated he was done campaigning the same day Rand said he endorsed Romney. The Doug Wead said the Pauls were threatened with a PR A-bomb as he called it.

I see your point and I can't say your wrong. The votes don't make much sense, but I refuse to believe Rand is a neocon. He wouldn't say the controversial things(to neocons) he says if he were a neo conservative. I'll still vote for him as he's better than 98% of all the other politicians.

I don't believe in disobeying The Constitution, but I also think it would have been silly to piss off Boehner for one measly vote that wouldn't have made a difference.

No liberty candidate has the chance that Rand has, and that's why I trust him. You nor I know how much is on Rand's plate right now and we don't know how his shoes feel. I can't say I would do better than him.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

If you don't believe in

If you don't believe in disobeying the constitution, then where's our disagreement? You know for afact the constitution doesn't allow Rand Paul to put sanctions on another country! I mean who is he!? I can't believe I'm having this conversation right now!

juan maldonado

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I don't understand everything Rand does either.

but he's a hell of a lot better than than any of the rest of the gang on the hill and I support him. I also don't think I am so smart I can judge his every move, I believe he does his best to keep his oaths. To the GOP and to The Constitution. It's important you understand that he must stay in the good graces of Boehner, or the 2016 convention will be no different than the last one. Ron Paul won the primary, but because he didn't play by leaderships rules, they snubbed him. Rand has a shot at it and I trust he's playing it right. He's our only hope at the Presidency.

I can't believe you and people like you slander Rand Paul when you could do much better things slandering Feinstein right now.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson