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My Opinion on the Reason for High Suicide Rates Among People in the Military

Reason: It has been difficult for the central government to demonize the enemy sufficiently with the flow of information present in modern times.

Would anyone feel bad enough to commit suicide after killing a person that raped their child? Probably not.

Would anyone feel bad enough to commit suicide after killing a person that murdered their wife or husband? Probably not.

Would anyone feel bad enough to commit suicide after killing a person that was in the act of robbing them? Probably not.

Would anyone feel bad enough to commit suicide after killing a person halfway around the world that they never knew and that potentially never tried to specifically harm them, their family, or their property? It seems so.

This is not the fault of the soldiers that thought they were doing right by their country. This is the fault of people that spread and use lies to further their agenda by placing others' lives on the line for nefarious purposes. This is the fault of people who make financial and academic promises to ambitious youths in order to dupe them into killing in their name.

If I were in the military, I would leave as soon as my contract expired. If I were thinking about joining the military, I would reconsider after analyzing the motives of the central government and how they haphazardly enter into offensive wars.

These things are difficult to realize while still in the military. As a testament, Major General Smedley Butler - the recipient of two Congressional Medals of Honor and the most decorated Marine in U.S. history - voiced the following realization after his departure:

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

I encourage everyone concerned to read War is a Racket - a short 15 page booklet written by Smedley Darlington Butler in 1935.

In addition, please consider the speech made by Charlie Chaplin at the end of the movie The Great Dictator:


And to those considering suicide, the best advice I ever heard on the matter came from a man that I only knew as Drill Sargent Dixon - "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary situation." You were placed in a bad situation and did what you thought you had to do. Please forgive yourself and take care of your loved ones. They still need you.

I do not speak from experience, but I can only imagine what you have been through.

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I can imagine the overwhelming hopelessness

of being in the military. On the other hand, it is a 'way out' for many people who are poor, poverty striken, without other options. At least that is the argument.

I know that soldiers aren't paid well; they don't have much of a future in the service, or out of it...And all the senseless killing...

I'm just rambling here. I wonder if there are any studies on this. You should try to get in touch with Adam Kokesh and see what he has to say about it.

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A friend of mine committed

A friend of mine committed suicide when the military was kicking him out for not moving up fast enough in the ranks. He knew his job better than most and worked hard, he just wasn't great at testing and wasn't one of those "yes" men so he got overlooked a bit. He hung himself in his closet of his barraks room the morning that he was supposed to be outprocessed. The reason he did it was because his life and all he knew was being taken from him undeservedly. I've known a few other military personell that committed suicide for other reasons. I know that many commit suicide for the reasons described in this thread, but there are plenty of others. Just putting it out there.

Thanks for sharing...

What you've described seems analogous to the reasons for the high suicide rate in Japan.

9/11 caused a SURGE in patriotism...

kinda like the bombing of Pearl Harbor did for WW2.

And then there's reality.

If I thought I was doing something to protect my family and then found out it was a lie...after committing some pretty horrific killings...and then come home maimed and left to fend for myself...I'd be discouraged too.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
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Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Any feedback on this? Opinions?

I would like to hear what someone with experience in these last few wars has to say. Their opinions are the ones that need to be heard.

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I had dinner over a year ago with a Marine gunnery sergeant, a friend-of-a-friend. While we were walking in, he got a call that someone he worked with had died, and while it wasn't clear, it seemed like suicide.

After dinner at my friend's house he started demonstrating martial moves, all of which ended with me on the floor, so I chose the better part of valor (and dude was hurting, visibly) and called it a night.

I understand you were looking for active duty, or veterans; however, I don't think he is a member of this web site, so I'm sharing this story (no opinions, other than self-preservation).

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It makes me wonder what these men and women...

have written and communicated leading up to their deaths. Whatever it is, it's probably not good for the War Racket.